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Posted: 12/28/2008 2:00:13 PM EDT
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hey guys, i just got a dillon super swagger and i went ahead and swagged all my prepped brass. now when im priming the brass it seems to go in really easy. in fact i sometimes check to make sure a primer got inserted at all. they feel like i have ran out of primers because there is no resistance. others i can feel a little resistance. is this the way it is suppose to be?
i was used to them going in stiff because i didnt know about the swagger. every piece of brass i clean out the primer pocket and unify it. thanks |
| I wouldn't use this brass, it sounds like the primer pockets are are oversize. Try primeing another lot of brass and see what you get. Also check the diameter of primers with another brand though I doubt this is your problem. You can also try a differend brand of primer, but one thing you don't want is blown primers. In some guns this can be dangerous to your eyesight, such as in a Savage 24V. I learned this the hard way. If you are foolish enough to try firing this stuff please use eye protection! Otherwise scrap the brass even if its new, or send it back. |
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So.....I was reading an old NRA publication, Highpower Rifles Shooting Vol 1, second edition, 1980 by Middleton Tompkins and........
Q: I have noticed that in inserting the primers that in some cases the primers goes in easy and some goes in with a lot of tension, is that a problem? MT: Well, in my own long range cases I think you can probably take some of them and hit them across the side of the barrel and the primer would fall out on the ground. I haven't had any problem with them. Some of them also push in hard so I don't think it makes much difference in that respect how tight they seat. Course he may have changed his mind since then. And, I don't KNOW if he was speaking about a bolt or semi-auto. The article was on, "Handloading for Accuracy." It's up to you, what you do, with your ammo. Anyway.......you should always wear hearing and eye protection when shooting. HTH. Aloha, Mark PS..........So, maybe someone out there is asking, "Who is Middleton Tompkins?" Quote: Mid Tompkins, Head Coach Mid was born in Long Beach, CA and started shooting small bore at the age of 12. He then changed to highpower in 1955 and won the first of six National Championships in 1958. He joined the U.S. Air Force in 1959 and competed on the Air Force Team for 4 years. After graduating from the University of California at Long Beach, Mid did property management until he retired in 1988. Mid has been a firing member, coach and captain of 17 previous Palma Teams and won the World F-Class Championship in 2005. He has also been a member of the U.S. Veterns and F-Class Teams. Mid is married to Nancy Gallagher-Tompkins and has 2 step daughters, Sherri and Michelle. Nancy and Michelle are firing members on the current U.S. Palma Team and Sherri was the winner of the World Long Range Championship in 2003 in Bisley, England. |
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i took a measurement of a brand new case vs some random (used) cases. all of their primer pockets measured almost the same. +/- .001.
i primed a few and they all felt good. maybe it was just a couple out of that last handful that were "loose"? BTW im using my hornady LNL press to do my priming. so what may be "loose" to me may be resistant to someone who is priming by hand. |
| I quit priming by press many years ago, at least 20. All I prime with anymore is the LEE hand prime tool. As far as using mixed cases, I used to do that with pistol cartridges but that even causes some problems but with rifle cartridges never, you're just playing with fire especially if this a high intensity round like a .308 or .223 let alone all of the magnum cartridges. I do use range range brass but I carefully inspect it and if it doesn't look once fired or is questionable in anyway it goes into my scrap brass bucket. |
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I wouldn't use this brass, it sounds like the primer pockets are are oversize. Try primeing another lot of brass and see what you get. Also check the diameter of primers with another brand though I doubt this is your problem. You can also try a differend brand of primer, but one thing you don't want is blown primers. In some guns this can be dangerous to your eyesight, such as in a Savage 24V. I learned this the hard way. If you are foolish enough to try firing this stuff please use eye protection! Otherwise scrap the brass even if its new, or send it back. Depends on the press . A Dillon has good leverage so it feels light for the primers going in and switch to a RCBS and they are harder to seat . I know what the poster is talking about and it is not a issue unless the primers are loose in the pockets and hanging out . I have loaded well over 100,000 .223's in LC brass and have had the same feel when priming cases . I have never had a problem unless I was loading them past 5-8 times . |
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After you try shooting some.........
Among your other primer readings. Check for a black ring between the primer and case. IF it's there, it indicates gas leakage. http://stevespages.com/diagnosingproblems.html Aloha, Mark |
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