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10/6/2008 11:51:45 AM EDT
I hope this is not a 9mm vs .45 type question...but is there a consensus recommendation of Beta-Chrony vs. PACT for chronographs?  Thanks for the info.

Blake
10/6/2008 12:09:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Either or. I've used both (I own a Chrony Alpha Master though) and they work.
10/6/2008 12:14:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Yup...I have a Chrony (but have used Pact)...it works great, just be sure to get the features you want, and shop for sales/deals.
10/6/2008 12:34:04 PM EDT
[#3]
The cheapest version of the most simple Chrony will give you everything you need.
10/6/2008 12:53:41 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
The cheapest version of the most simple Chrony will give you everything you need.


It's what I have.... and if you shoot it, it's not so expensive to replace

All I need is the velocities, I have a pen, paper and brain for the rest.
10/6/2008 1:03:28 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

It's what I have.... and if you shoot it, it's not so expensive to replace



I've seen that done.
10/6/2008 1:48:36 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
The cheapest version of the most simple Chrony will give you everything you need.



Not really true.

There is nothing expensive that can be shot on my PACT Model 1 XP.

10/6/2008 2:02:21 PM EDT
[#7]
how well does the pact perform in the sun? Or do they all just suck on sunny days?

sometimes I feel like intentionally shooting my crony on sunny days. LOL
10/6/2008 2:23:54 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
how well does the pact perform in the sun? Or do they all just suck on sunny days?

sometimes I feel like intentionally shooting my crony on sunny days. LOL



It seems to have more problems on cloudy days, but it general it has been a good chony other than a couple days when it just wanted to be a bitch.
10/6/2008 4:35:01 PM EDT
[#9]



Can be shot there.
10/6/2008 5:03:40 PM EDT
[#10]
I have the F-1 Master model by Shooting Chrony.  It is the same as their others (alpha, beta, etc...) but it only saves one string.  I just write down the velocities and plug them into a spreadsheet when I get home to do calculations.
10/6/2008 5:06:56 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/bigguncoop/pact-4.jpg


Can be shot there.


Still not too much to fix, much cheaper than replacing a full chrony.  A little birdie told me that Pact sells replacement parts cheap  I wouldn't know personally because that would require shooting your chrono and I would never do that
10/6/2008 5:13:06 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/bigguncoop/pact-4.jpg


Can be shot there.



I said "Nothing Expensive"

10/8/2008 9:21:29 PM EDT
[#13]
I was thinking of getting this:
Competition Electronics ProChrono Digital Chronograph



It seemed to get good reviews
10/8/2008 11:08:09 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I was thinking of getting this:
Competition Electronics ProChrono Digital Chronograph

www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/staticpages/highres/852429.jpg

It seemed to get good reviews


Want to buy a used one?
10/9/2008 4:36:37 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I was thinking of getting this:
Competition Electronics ProChrono Digital Chronograph

www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/staticpages/highres/852429.jpg

It seemed to get good reviews


Want to buy a used one?


Keep it to IM's or the EE.
10/9/2008 7:54:04 AM EDT
[#16]
Personally, I would definitely prefer the PACT Model 1 XP, as shown a few posts above, to the Competition Electronics ProChrono just because if a shot goes low it will only wipe out the photo sensor 'skyscreens' and not the expensive electronic/computer heart of the system.  Plus the readout is right next to you on the bench, which is very nice.  The PACT method is also how the original, late great Oehler chronographs were set up (or visa-versa).  And yes, I had another shooter hit my Oehler skyscreens (NEVER let anyone other than yourself shoot over your chronograph!!)

If I was to hang the electronics out with the skyscreens, I would get a Chrony - but with the remote readout for convenience, which I believe is the Master Chrony versions.  I would have no issues spending the extra $30 for the Beta Master Chrony.

Overall, if it were me doing it again, I would go with the PACT.
10/9/2008 8:00:05 AM EDT
[#17]
I recommend two versions of the Chrony.  Either get the basic model and just write the results down in a notebook, or go whole hog and buy the Master Beta Chrony with the printer.  The printer has sensible controls that mostly make sense for operating the instrument and take over when the printer is installed.  The remote readout has nowhere near enough buttons for my preferences; they have multiple, not obvious or remotely intuitive functions, and the instruction manual blows to boot.  This is the unit I own, and I write the readings down anyway.
10/9/2008 8:06:18 AM EDT
[#18]
I have a Chrony and ProChrono. I can honestly say they both suck and don't waste your money on either of them.

Everything I have been told says to either go with an Oehler (no longer in production) or CED Millennium.

I'll eventually buy a CED.


CED Review
10/9/2008 8:55:53 AM EDT
[#19]
Well innocent_bystander you've certainly sold me on the CED - if I ever have to replace my Oehler 35P, it will be with the CED Millennium.

Thanks for the info.
10/9/2008 9:28:20 AM EDT
[#20]
You mean Millennium 2..  Millennium (v1) is discontinued.  PACT & CED M2 looks good.. seems to be more expensive though.

Just wondering, has anyone ever put a flashlight aimed at the screens to generate artificial light for shooting with a chrono?  Just seems logical to do something like that if it's low light conditions.
10/10/2008 6:25:25 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/bigguncoop/pact-4.jpg


Can be shot there.



I said "Nothing Expensive"



Sir, FWIW PACT calls those parts "diffusers".  Their web site does not list a price saying "call for pricing" but IIRC the last time I had to buy a new one they were cheap enough that I bought an extra set to keep in my chronograph bag just in case.  They are simple to replace.  With the right size screw driver it took me about five minutes to replace a set.  FWIW I discovered that due to sight height of an AR-15 you have to aim a bit higher to keep from shooting a diffuser, but as already mentioned they're cheap.  HTH, 7zero1.
10/10/2008 6:30:56 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
You mean Millennium 2..  Millennium (v1) is discontinued.  PACT & CED M2 looks good.. seems to be more expensive though.

Just wondering, has anyone ever put a flashlight aimed at the screens to generate artificial light for shooting with a chrono?  Just seems logical to do something like that if it's low light conditions.


Sir, I've adopted a rule that I don't take my chronograph to the range on cloudy days.  I shoot at a privately owned range that has concrete baffles horizontally over the firing line and upward baffles spaced at increasing distances downrange.  The baffles block a lot of the ambient light at the firing line and without bright sunlight in these conditions the chronograph cannot see the bullet passing by.  HTH, 7zero1.
10/10/2008 6:37:41 AM EDT
[#23]
Here are the factory direct prices for the CED M2 Chronograph.

www.cedhk.com/show.php/Object29

The M2 chronograph system is $199.99.

If you shoot a sensor it is $36.95 for a new one.

The indoor lighting set is $39.95.

Looks like everything except for their tripod gets good reviews on Midway.

www.midwayusa.com/esearch.exe/search?search_keywords=chronograph&category_selector=all_products
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