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5/23/2008 10:34:11 AM EDT
I tried to load some .308 using some once fired brass and the Lee collet neck sizing die.  The brass came from my bolt action rifle but when I try to use it after reloading, it jams and the bolt won't close.  Seems too tight for the chamber.  Any ideas?
5/23/2008 10:45:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes...keep camming the bolt...most neck sized cases will require some stiff camming of the bolt.  This is a good thing, unless you can't do it reasonably by hand.
5/23/2008 11:07:22 AM EDT
[#2]
There is something wrong if you really need to crank on neck sized brass to chamber in a bolt action gun.  Possible answers, the case is too long?  Perhaps you have set the shoulder back and messed up the case?
5/23/2008 12:21:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Compare the headspace length of a fired case and a sized case; I'm betting that will tell you where the problem lies.
5/23/2008 12:27:55 PM EDT
[#4]
My neck sized brass has no problem like this. Me thinks there is a headspace or length problem.
5/23/2008 1:16:20 PM EDT
[#5]
Here are some measurements:

Factory load (works):
Overal length: 2.7845
Case length: 2.0095
Bullet diameter:  .3055
Case diameter above shoulder:  .3130
Case diameter below shoulder: .4525

Same case fire once then neck sized adn reloaded (bolt won't close):
Overal length: 2.7475
Case length:  2.0085
Bullet diameter:  .3040
Case diameter above shoulder:  .3310
Case diameter below shoulder:  .4560


So you think it's the diameter of the case above the shoulder?  What would cause that to buckle out?  Maybe too much muscle on the factory crimp die?
5/23/2008 1:45:33 PM EDT
[#6]
There are many instances of Neck Sizing creating a "Sticky Bolt" and is described in most reloading journals.  This is due to the case not having the shoulder set back by a full length sizing die.  Again, you are doing nothing more than sizing the the round (slightly) with the gun's chamber instead of the die.  The only other thing I can think of is the possibility that you did not trim to the right length after re-sizing and may be crimping with your throat.
5/23/2008 2:54:14 PM EDT
[#7]

Bullet diameter: .3040


?   Typo?
5/23/2008 3:26:37 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Case diameter below shoulder: .4525

Case diameter below shoulder:  .4560


So you think it's the diameter of the case above the shoulder?  What would cause that to buckle out?  Maybe too much muscle on the factory crimp die?


Are you crimping? Looks like too much crimp, causing case to bulge, IF I'm reading your info correctly. Try an UNLOADED UNPRIMED case after sizing to see if it chambers. If it does, Try an UNLOADED UNPRIMED case with proj, and crimp. to see if it chambers, thus figuring out which step is goofing you up. DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS WITH LOADED AMMO!
You have alot of leverage on that press handle, and you can over crimp causing a bulge just behind the shoulder if not very careful.
Let us know.
5/23/2008 3:28:55 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Bullet diameter: .3040


?   Typo?


No, I measured the bullet when it was already seated in the cartridge so I must have been getting some of the taper.  The bullets are .308 diameter 175 gr Sierra Martch Kings.
5/23/2008 3:51:40 PM EDT
[#10]
Thought maybe it was supposed to be the loaded neck diameter which should be around .335.
5/23/2008 6:18:14 PM EDT
[#11]
Looks like it was trim length.  I took a look at my trimmer and the trim guide wasn't screwed all the way into the cutter.  I trimmed up some new cases, loaded using the same method and crimp and they chamber fine.

Thanks for all the suggestions.
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