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Posted: 2/17/2011 5:00:02 AM EDT
| What does removing the magazine safety disconnect do? |
| If done correctly you will then be able to shoot the weapon without a mag in it! I have not done it yet, but am planning on it soon this year. Then you can clear the weapon if you had not shot the full mag! This feature like many lawyer safeties on guns were added as precaution for those idiots that didn't understand that when mag is removed on gun that one round can still be left chambered. Gun companies got tired of getting sued by the victimsof there own or someone elses mistake. They figured it was cheaper to add these types of safeties like the built in locks on guns the mag safety on guns and there are many more! I read an article about little Wayne the rapper (at the Doctor office) that he shot himself accidentally cause he took the mag out and thought it was empty! So thanks to these types of idiots and young kids with easy access to weapons. Though if you ever end up in a defensive situation with any modified weapon you are more than likely going to pay for it by law suit, or maybe jail time. |
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Think twice about deactivating any safety on firearm that may be used for self defense. You may find yourself in court attempting to explain your reckless act to a jury. Better to buy and rely on weapons that do not have such features. Agreed. I been on the job 12 years-Safety features should not be modified. Someone gets hurt or killed, and you're going to need the OJ defense team to get you off. I am leaving mine alone. |
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Took it off on both my GSG-5P SBR & GSG-5PK SBR. Hate the damned LOSS of function without a magazine. What loss of function? I am curious. During a gunfight, the mag release could be shot, causing the mag to drop out. Then you wouldnt be able to continue in the fight. But, if you have removed the safety, you will have 1 22LR, to shoot the opposition in the eye and end the battle! That is the only thing I can think of...... |
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Loss of the ability to shoot while the magazine is not in the gun. You know, for those mall commando moments as described above. Don't forget to stay at a holiday inn express the night before the battle.
In seriousness, I just feel like it takes functionality away from it. Most of my other toys/weapons/whatever don't have the restrictive magazine disconnect feature. The ones that did I defeated if possible. In raging battle. |
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Hopefully this thread is still being read and some of you can comment. I apologize if this issue/question has been addressed elsewhere but I am just into this forum for the first time as of yesterday.
My son and I shot our GSG in a steel match this weekend. At the end of the stage we removed the magazine with a few rounds left in it and were left holding a weapon with a round in the chamber that the bolt would not extract. And without an empty magazine to put in the gun we could not fire the chambered round into the berm. I emailed Ray at ATI and the bottom line is these guns are not designed to extract a live round out of a dirty chamber. Yes I know the instruction manual has a page on how to unload the weapon. But a running email discussion with Ray and much testing will show you that the extractor (and extractor cut in the barrel) is not designed to capture the rim of the cartridge well enough to actually work in the real world. The gun was designed such that the blowback on the casing keeps the case in contact with the bolt so that the ejector can do its job. So the advantage of removing the magazine disconnector is that you can fire the remaining round in the chamber and make the gun safe. Comments? Note: Please don't write and say how great your gun ejects unfired rounds even when dirty, and that I should send mine in for repair. Consider yourself lucky. According to Ray Caton your gun is the exception not the rule. |
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Think twice about deactivating any safety on firearm that may be used for self defense. You may find yourself in court attempting to explain your reckless act to a jury. Better to buy and rely on weapons that do not have such features. Your using a .22 for self defense? |
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Think twice about deactivating any safety on firearm that may be used for self defense. You may find yourself in court attempting to explain your reckless act to a jury. Better to buy and rely on weapons that do not have such features. Are you able to back this up with case law or are you just speculating! |
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Think twice about deactivating any safety on firearm that may be used for self defense. You may find yourself in court attempting to explain your reckless act to a jury. Better to buy and rely on weapons that do not have such features. Agreed. I been on the job 12 years-Safety features should not be modified. Someone gets hurt or killed, and you're going to need the OJ defense team to get you off. I am leaving mine alone. In the case of the magazine safety disconnect on the GSG-5, is more of a nuisance feature than a safety feature. In fact, I think it's even more dangerous with it on, since you can only de-cock the damn thing with a magazine inserted. I don't know what jestevens means by reckless act. Want a little inside scoop? Unless it is apparent there has been fully automatic fire at a shooting, agencies will not go inside the weapon. Now if a SMG is involved the chances are better you may have a certified armorer of that weapon and/or an ATF agent inspecting that weapon while in the custody of the LE agency. |
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Think twice about deactivating any safety on firearm that may be used for self defense. You may find yourself in court attempting to explain your reckless act to a jury. Better to buy and rely on weapons that do not have such features. Agreed. I been on the job 12 years-Safety features should not be modified. Someone gets hurt or killed, and you're going to need the OJ defense team to get you off. I am leaving mine alone. In the case of the magazine safety disconnect on the GSG-5, is more of a nuisance feature than a safety feature. In fact, I think it's even more dangerous with it on, since you can only de-cock the damn thing with a magazine inserted. I don't know what jestevens means by reckless act. Want a little inside scoop? Unless it is apparent there has been fully automatic fire at a shooting, (or an obvious SBR violation) agencies will not go inside the weapon. Now if a SMG is involved the chances are better you may have a certified armorer of that weapon and/or an ATF agent inspecting that weapon while in the custody of the LE agency. |
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