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Posted: 12/17/2008 3:51:33 PM EDT
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my red thingy got chopped off in the breech (tab)
wish they could have spares included got dummy rounds at the store if the economy gets getter in a few years maybe i,ll call for a replacement piece ( can we get them)? waste of postage for just that |
??? They are installed for shipping purposes they came in every modern pistol I have bought in the last 10 years
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It's a de-cocker, so you can strip the rifle.
what ! I have striped hundreds of rifles and never needed a "red thingy"  I cant even get my mind around how this would help??
It's also a flag showing that the chamber is empty. I guess the same people that make the red thingy should also make labels telling some which end of the spoon to put in your mouth |
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I have striped hundreds of rifles and never needed a "red thingy"
I cant even get my mind around how this would help?? Call me crazy, but the manual states that you should de-cock the rifle before attempting to dis-assemble. I don't have a .22 snap cap, so the red thingy allows me to safely do so, without having to put an empty casing in the chamber. I don't like to dry fire weapons. I guess the same people that make the red thingy should also make labels telling some which end of the spoon to put in your mouth some places require a chamber empty indicator, not just the bolt locked back. In some cases, depending on what you have mounted on the rail, you might not be able to lock the bolt back... hence the need for the red flag. Anything else you'd care to mock?? |
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I have striped hundreds of rifles and never needed a "red thingy" I cant even get my mind around how this would help?? Call me crazy, but the manual states that you should de-cock the rifle before attempting to dis-assemble. I don't have a .22 snap cap, so the red thingy allows me to safely do so, without having to put an empty casing in the chamber. I don't like to dry fire weapons. I guess the same people that make the red thingy should also make labels telling some which end of the spoon to put in your mouth some places require a chamber empty indicator, not just the bolt locked back. In some cases, depending on what you have mounted on the rail, you might not be able to lock the bolt back... hence the need for the red flag. Anything else you'd care to mock?? Oh course you need to de-cock it to take it apart, the manual also states to make sure your weapon is not loaded when cleaning!  Trust me if you sat on your sofa and dry fired your rifle for the next month I doubt you would hurt it the firing pins are more or less flat stock! I work part time for a gunsmith and can’t think of many firearms that would be hurt by dry firing, this dry-firing urban legend is crazy. (Except for old double barrel shot guns) I don’t have my GSG in front of me right now but almost all off these "red thingys" I can recall hold the bolt/slide open and will not fire anyway cause the bolt is out of battery.
I belong to three local ranges and shot at many more and none of them require a silly empty chamber indicator (nor would I belong to one) sounds like a rule that the anti-military gun ranges come up with. If your little “red thingy” makes you happy and keeps you feeling secure don’t let me rain on your parade. |
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*breaks out an umbrella*
No rain here. 
I belong to the "ounce of prevention" club... I never subscribed to the dry fire theory either, until a friend destroyed the pin on his model 60 by doing so. Whether it was coincidence or not, couldn't tell you... but I figure better safe, than sorry. I don't go to ranges that require a bolt empty indicator, I go to ones that merely require the bolt held open in some manner when not shooting. My brother in Kalifornistan goes to ranges that require a flag/indicator. Plus it makes a good snap cap. YMMV, but I'd rather have one, than not. |
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I left the red thingy at the range and now feel shallow and empty And you should be, shame shame how are possibly going to field strip your rifle now or remember if you a round in the chamber ???  WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE G*D DAMNED CHILDREN?!  
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I dropped my red thingy in the snow and almost lost it today...
A good amount of rimfires can damage the breach face if you dry fire a lot. My dad got a used Ruger MkII that was assembled incorrectly by the previous owner and dryfired, resulting in the firing pin slamming into the breach face and seriously deforming it. Figured out why he sold it, couldn't chamber a round. Thankfully the place he got it from reamed out the chamber and it works great now. |
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