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11/27/2010 4:48:11 AM EDT
So I'm looking to purchase a good quality optic, but have heard good/bad in each direction on both 1/8th MOA adjustments and also on high magnification (that you get shimmer and other visual issues).

I've heard that 1/8th MOA adjustments become a pain in the ass and that 1/4th are better.  

Has anyone used the NF Benchrest models?  From what I gather Nightforce are some of the best scopes under $2000.  I would love to find a really top notch optic for $500 (gently used), but everyone I speak to keeps leaning me toward something closer to $1000+.  I'd like to buy the right thing the first time but I'm also trying to build another rifle and I could really use the $ toward the build.

I wish I would be A-OK with a Bushnell 6500 4.5-30x50 or a Monarch 8-32x50, which I can get around $500-600, but if I would really be that much better off going to a NF at twice the price then I will.
11/27/2010 9:00:55 AM EDT
[#1]
The 1/8 moa adjustment is nice when shooting 1000 yard matches because with the 1/4 moa adjustment you move the bullet 2.5 inches with each click, and the 1/8 moa moves the bullet 1.25 inches.
With a Night Force or similar high end optics you won't get the shimmering or other visual issues that you get with cheaper scopes. I have both models og N/F scopes (NXS and BR) and I like them both. The only thing I don't like about the Benchrest model is the shorter eye relief (2.9") compared to the NXS with a 4" eye relief.  Of the four N/F I have my favorite is the 8-32x56 NXS with the NP-R2 reticle. You have less elevation adjustment with the 8-32 than you do with the 5.5-22 model but with a tapered base I can shoot between 100 yards and out to well past 1000 yards, and farther by using the extra hash marks on the NP-r2 reticle that are spaced at 2 MOA apart.  The resale on a N/F scope is fantastic.  I know a very good shooter that has shot in a lot of matches every year and he sells his N/F scope every winter and buys a brand new one for the nexrt match season. With the LIFETIME warranty and only used for one season he has no problem selling his used and proven scope for almost what he pays for his new one every year, it helps with him being a distributer for N/F, He gets a discount but N/F has a limit on how cheap a Distributor can charge for them. There are some Places selling N/F scopes that sell them at the bottom line N/F will allow and then they will give away free rings or other discounts to make the sale even more appealing to the buyer.

Ed
11/27/2010 12:34:31 PM EDT
[#2]
The BR models also have a bit less elevation built in vs. the NXS models.    8-32 for NXS is 65 MOA elevation, 45MOA Wind.   8-32 BR has 50 MOA elevation and 50 MOA Wind.    Only you can decide if the 15 MOA of elevation makes a difference to you or not.
Cheers,
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11/27/2010 12:45:02 PM EDT
[#3]
Matching turrets and reticle mattered more to me than more fine adjustments. If you go with mil/mil then your at .36" every click @100 moa/moa is a little more than .25" @100 i think it's .26 or .27. I have a leupold mark 4 on another gun and like the matching turrets better. Another thing is the turns of the turrets. From 100 to 600 i go around more than once. out to 1000 it's 3 turns. The more turns means more of a chance of forgetting were your at. Unless your shooting 1000 all the time. Just my input though.
11/27/2010 2:49:41 PM EDT
[#4]
I also have a Nightforce 8-32x56 NXS with the NP-R2 on my 30" Bohica.  I love it and wish I could afford one for my Armalite AR-10 and several other guns I have.  They are nothing short of amazing.  Sure you can spend more money and perhaps find a better scope but not at a point I can afford.  I've heard people argue for or against other models but I'm going to stick with my Nightforce for the 50 BMG.
11/27/2010 4:03:33 PM EDT
[#5]
Ok, I have another comparison for the N.F. BR vs NXS that was not mentioned. On a BR the AO is a ring towards the front of the scope. While on the NXS the A.O. is to the left of the windage adjustment. Some feel that this is easier to operate than the one on the front of the scope. Real handy to go out of focus to see the mirage and read the wind. then pop it back into focus for the shot.
11/29/2010 3:16:12 PM EDT
[#6]
hm.  well at 1/2 to 2/3rds the price, assuming all my shooting is in good lighting conditions, would the 6500 still not be a worthwhile choice?  I'll only be shooting my rifle realistically 100 rounds a year or so, and if I can shoot 600-1000 yards without issues with the 6500 that'd be great.  I missed a chance to get the NF recently for $900 and now I'm smacking myself upside the head b/c of it.
11/29/2010 3:57:19 PM EDT
[#7]
I know folks that have used the Bushnell on a .50 and were satisfied with it.  I have a Leupold VariXlll that I paid just over $700.00 for it in 99 and it is still going strong on a .50.

Ed
12/1/2010 12:06:15 PM EDT
[#8]
I just came across a killer deal on one of these:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-16x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P501.aspx

And had to give it a shot.  A lot of the guys on the OpticsTalk and SnipersHide forums sing it's praises, especially at that price point!  I'm gonna try 'er out and report back.

Does anyone know what height rings to use on an AR-50?  I think they can be low since the weaver rail is raised off the top of the receiver already...

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