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Posted: 12/9/2009 5:58:09 PM EDT
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I see some small differences in elevation/windage capability but what else justifies an extra $4-600 for the NXS?
Cheers, cc |
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Thanks KD. When looking at the MOA on the 12-42x models, the MOA is pretty similar. The 8-32x's have a little wider disparity.
I assume both use the same glass, mechanics, etc... or is are the internals on the benchrest models cheapened down? Thanks for the insight. Cheers, cc |
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I own the 8X32X56 BR N.F. and love it. Yes so the NXS has more elevation and windage so I hear. Another thing that the NXS is suppose to have over the BR is that the A.O. focus or adjustment is at 9 o'clock which is suppose to be easier to operate, versus the front adjustment on the BR scopes. This is suppose to be easier when you un-focus to look at the mirage waves to show you the wind direction. Note: I am saying suppose alot. Thats because I do not own nor have I own an NXS scope so I really dont know the real differences.
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I see some small differences in elevation/windage capability but what else justifies an extra $4-600 for the NXS? Cheers, cc If you are shooting matches, the BR is fine. If you plan on field use, go for the NXS. The NXS has more elevation adjustment available The NXS has more desirable 1/4 MOA clicks...1/8 MOA clicks = twice as many clicks to do anything...worthless for shooting at distances beyond 200 yards. The NXS has a thicker main tube...it's more rugged than the BR. The NXS has uncapped, dustproof, waterproof adjustment knobs (desirable). The benchrest has delicate capped target knobs. The NXS has a side parallax adjustment that you can adjust while behind the gun...the BR has a conventional Adjustable Objective that sucks for field use. The NXS holds it's value better...they're easier to sell than a BR because they're more desirable for more users. If you plan to mostly shoot 1000 yard FCSA matches and you have a 20-30 MOA rail on your rifle, by all means get a Benchrest 8-32. It'll work great, and lots of competitors use it. If you plan to haul your rifle to tactical games, or to hunt critters, or just generally need a more rugged rig, get the NXS, preferably in 5.5-22x56mm. Like almost everything related to rifles, there are tradeoffs. You just need to figure out your mission before making a decision. -David Edgewood, NM |
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The eye relief is different between the two, the NXS 8-32 has 3.8" eye relief and the BR has 2.9" eye relief. The NXS is 2 ozs lighter and the NXS has a 6.7" mounting length and the BR has only 5.5" mounting length. The NXS is 15.9" long and the BR is 16.6" long. The field of view is a little different also, the NXS 8-32 has a 12.1' field of view on 8 power and the BR has 9.4' on 8 power. On 32 power the NXS has a 3.1' field of view and the BR has 3.1' also on 32 power.
That's the only other differences I can come up with besides some internal differences. Ed |
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Thanks folks for the inputs! I'm about as blind as a bat so was looking actually at the 42x versions although I must say, I need to go look through something with that much magnification (and the 32x) to see if I really need the difference. I'm really looking for an "all around" scope (aren't we all!) that I can use at short distances yet stretch out there when needed. I don't know that I'll ever get into match shooting but if I did, I wouldn't want to have to buy another scope. Sounds like the NXS is about as close to what I'm after although I'm not in the mood to pay $1800 for one! I think I'll start looking into the Leupold's a bit more as well.
Cheers and thanks, cc |
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[The NXS has more desirable 1/4 MOA clicks...1/8 MOA clicks = twice as many clicks to do anything...worthless for shooting at distances beyond 200 yards. This doesn't make sense to me. When I'm target shooting at 1000yds+ I like to make small adjustments ...up close I like to make BIGGER adjustments. |
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[The NXS has more desirable 1/4 MOA clicks...1/8 MOA clicks = twice as many clicks to do anything...worthless for shooting at distances beyond 200 yards. This doesn't make sense to me. When I'm target shooting at 1000yds+ I like to make small adjustments ...up close I like to make BIGGER adjustments. I'll venture to guess that you can't SHOOT to a 1/8 MOA resolution at 1000 yards because if you could, you'd be the world record holder in every field of 1000 yard competition, 50 BMG and otherwise. 1/4 MOA is just over 2.5" at 1000 yards...1/8 MOA is just over 1.25" at 1000. The current world record is 1.9" +/- at 1000 yards with a 50 and until this summer, the world record was about 2.9" +/-. No reason for 1/8 MOA Clicks. The fact is no one can shoot to 1/8 MOA resolution at 1000 yards...so why have a scope that can adjust to that resolution? Why keep up with that many clicks? -David Edgewood, NM |
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Thanks folks for the inputs! I'm about as blind as a bat so was looking actually at the 42x versions although I must say, I need to go look through something with that much magnification (and the 32x) to see if I really need the difference. I'm really looking for an "all around" scope (aren't we all!) that I can use at short distances yet stretch out there when needed. I don't know that I'll ever get into match shooting but if I did, I wouldn't want to have to buy another scope. Sounds like the NXS is about as close to what I'm after although I'm not in the mood to pay $1800 for one! I think I'll start looking into the Leupold's a bit more as well. Cheers and thanks, cc Unless you plan to shoot 100% in competition, I wouldn't get the 12-42. It has a very narrow adjustment range...you won't be able to shoot at both 1000 yards and 200 yards without two different rails. Plus about 90% of the time you won't be able to use the 42x because of mirage. By mid-day you'll rarely be able to use beyond 25x. If you want a higher magnification scope, get the 8-32. I still think the 5.5-22x56 NXS is plenty for 1000 yards....with mine, I can see the 3" white square in the middle of the FCSA 1000-yard targets and quarter it with my reticle...at 22x. A Leupold Mark 4 6.5-20 or 8.5x25 will do you fine. The 6.5 has better eye relief so it would be my suggestion. I've got an 8.5-25 on my 338 Lapua that I want to sell, and buy a 6.5-20 Mark 4. -David Edgewood, NM |
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Quoted:I'll venture to guess that you can't SHOOT to a 1/8 MOA resolution* at 1000 yards because if you could, you'd be the world record holder in every field of 1000 yard competition, 50 BMG and otherwise....
-David Edgewood, NM *I'd venture to guess If I could shoot well enough to notice the difference between 1/8 MOA and 1/4 I would have made a 6-figure income with it -instead of shooting matches as a hobby. ...as a third generation long distance shooter who has made a bunch of bucks doing R&D secret squirrel stuff for the gov. (You should really check out the doppler radar they have at YPG -you can actually see the rifling grooves on the bullet in flight ...it's pretty cool) |
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Quoted:I'll venture to guess that you can't SHOOT to a 1/8 MOA resolution* at 1000 yards because if you could, you'd be the world record holder in every field of 1000 yard competition, 50 BMG and otherwise....
-David Edgewood, NM *I'd venture to guess If I could shoot well enough to notice the difference between 1/8 MOA and 1/4 I would have made a 6-figure income with it -instead of shooting matches as a hobby. ...as a third generation long distance shooter who has made a bunch of bucks doing R&D secret squirrel stuff for the gov. (You should really check out the doppler radar they have at YPG -you can actually see the rifling grooves on the bullet in flight ...it's pretty cool) How can you fit a doppler radar on a gun? 
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Quoted: Quoted: [The NXS has more desirable 1/4 MOA clicks...1/8 MOA clicks = twice as many clicks to do anything...worthless for shooting at distances beyond 200 yards. This doesn't make sense to me. A lot of what Dave says doesn't make sense.  j/k nbl DaveHere is a pic of my Burris on 32x at 1000 yds. BTW it also has 1/8 MOA adjustments  |
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