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Posted: 2/4/2008 7:10:49 AM EDT
| Whats the lightest bullet you can get in a 50bmg? |
M903 SLAP  The problem your going to run into is bullet jump as the lighter bullets will be smaller then the standard weight bullets. I've tried some of the barnes XLC .50 bullets that were about 600 grs and seated them long. So so accuracy, I know you wanted a light bullet but the .50 preforms best with heavier bullets. A friend tried some of the Barnes solids for .500 Nitro and got so so accuarcy at the range also, he had them seated to 5.45 (standard). YMMV, post a range report if you shoot some light bullets. |
My question is about as straight forward as it gets. I am looking for the lightest bullet in 50bmg. Not too concerned with accuracy. Whats it for? ... I intend to shoot them out of my 50. |
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Fine. If you don't care about accuracy or safety, Barnes makes a .510 diameter bullet that weighs 300 grains. www.midwayusa.com Search 510 under the bullet category. But then you may be referring to an assembled cartridge and not a bullet if you don't already know how to run a search on www.midwayusa.com for 510 bullets. Have a nice day. -David Edgewood, NM |
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So you reccomend shooting a 300gr bullet out of a 50BMG? That doesn't sound like very sound advice to me. I specifically stated "50 BMG" in my post. Accuracy needs = nominal. If I can hit a paper plate at 200yds... that is all I require. I didn't think my question was very cryptic. Let me try a few different ways... perhaps one of them will strike a cord with you: Whats lightest bullet for use in a 50 BMG? What is the lightest bullet you can shoot safely out of a 50 BMG? If I were shooting a 50 BMG, what is the lightest bullet I should use? When reloading for a 50 BMG, can you tell me the lightest bullet I could safely use? If none of those make sense, just PM me... and I'll try to re-phrase it for you mmi9100. For everybody else, I'm sure the question is very plain, and your insight would be appreciated greatly! Thanks in advance. |
I have a few 570 gr soft points that were loaded by the now defunct Arizona ammo. Pics pretty much sum it up. The bottom one is the 570 next to a 750 Amax, both moly coated. I haven't seen any bmg's smaller than these (sans the sabot round). Forgive nm9100, he's only been in the game of 50 bmg's for a few years and he is already a self proclaimed know it all   
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I would assume that you want to shoot cheap plinking ammo that get's okay accuracy so that you can enjoy shooting your .50 correct? Most solids aren't going to be cheap as with Hornady's AMAX so your next choice is surplus. If your state allows tracer and incendiary ammo then you should look into buying that for reloading. Ball projo's are running about .40 cents depending on where you look and AP, API and APIT run close to this or a few cents more. Lehigh Bullets makes some 510 gr. bullets but they run $2 each, so you're right back to the price issue. You can't run a 50 cal pistol bullet through a 50 cal rifle, while I'm sure some clown probably could try, it's not worth the hassle if it damages your rifle. With the price of metals being uncertain and changing all the time, solids of any weight are going to cost you a premium right now and the foreseeable future. Hawk Bullets makes a 350 gr. .510 dia bullet and again I would caution you about bullet jump in the chamber. For a longer VLD type of bullet this really isn't an issue but a smaller bullet could run you into problems if the bullet isn't seated very straight in the case. Again, check their website as their prices aren't cheap either. |
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I don't know if this is possible. Just heard someone saying that they are going to look into hand casting some bullets. Dont even know if molds are available. But it might be something to look into. Course you will need/want to gas check them too. Any of you old hands hear if anyone has ever done this successfully? Max |
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Orkan: You gave me a belligerent reply so I returned the favor. You know if folks talked to each other like they do on this and other boards we'd have a lot more killings in the streets. You be civil and I will too. That's why I cordially asked you what your application was for the light bullets. I don't know the state laws in your state. I don't know if you want to hunt or just shoot cheap. I don't know if you want a light recoilling round because you are recoil sensative. In asking your application, that was what I was interested in. And yet you asked for help by giving a smart assed retort. The lightest 510 diameter jacketed bullet I found is the one I posted above, the 300 grain Barnes Original. Now I would personally never shoot that in a 50 BMG. If you are looking for cheap, low recoil practice, the best you can probably do is M33 Ball bullets at a nominal 647 grains. As suggested above, Lehigh also makes a M33 profile bullet out of solid brass that is about that weight. Barnes makes a 50-BMG X Bullet in that weight as well. API is probably the lightest milsurp bullet at around 630 grains but you'll set the country on fire in most situations with it and its illegal in a number of states. So see, i'm not the blooming idiot you supposed. I was trying to help and and you just had to be a smart ass. Flash: Never claimed expert status. But I seem to be one of the few active FCSA shooters that frequents this forum on a regular basis. And I happen to be literate and able to type which puts me above a number of folks. I think these silly little pissing matches have driven away some of the more qualified FCSA shooters. Kinda becomes a mudslinging pit among folks coming home pissed at work.-David Edgewood, NM |
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Thanks David, will search on FCSA and forward to the fellow that was talking about looking into this. Et all, it does seem that across the board a lot of feathers have been getting ruffled lately. Not just talking about the people in this thread but all over. Think we are all getting a wee bit of cabin fever and chomping at the bit to get out to the range. I know that I am more than ready. Plus waiting for my first 50 is getting a wee bit tiring. Come on spring!! Max |
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I did not think you to be a "blooming idiot" nor did I give you a smartass remark. My application was not the question. It was a very VERY straight forward question and I wanted a straight forward answer. What I was going to use them for has NOTHING to do with the question I asked. I did not ask about COST. I did not ask about ACCURACY. I did not ask about OTHER CALIBERS. I asked specifically about the lightest bullet for use in a 50 BMG. You can't get more straight to the point than that. If you are as knowledgeable and active (fcsa and all) as you claim... you could simply have answered the question. You didnt. Fine. I did NOT want this thread getting sidetracked... which you managed to do anyway. You havn't contributed anything useful up until your last post... and you had to let your ass hang out in order to do it. So commenting about users on this forum is probably a mute point until you hold up a mirror. That being said... I'm not sure why you couldnt just answer the question, but I won't hold it against you. You don't know me, and I don't know you. If you'd simply have answered the question, we wouldnt have had to speculate about each others character. So... if you'd like to direct me toward the lightest bullets for a 50 BMG, by all means do so, and I'll thank you. If not, kindly see your way out of this thread. |
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My points were right on. Doubt you even have a 50 BMG. Probably just another armchair hero. Clearly, you aren't very informed if you don't know that 50 BMG bullets are .510 inches in diameter. I gave you the lightest 50 caliber bullet I could find, a 300 grain Barnes. -David Edgewood, NM |
And that isn't smartass? (emphasis underlined) -David Edgewood, NM |
You are right... I don't. I did just order a Bohica a couple weeks ago though. While I'm sure you have had your extreme 50 BMG knowledge since birth... I am just starting out with them. So I figured I'd ask a few questions, that way when it shows up, I am all ready to go. If I was very informed... I wouldn't be on here asking questions. So "armchair hero" I may be... but that is surely a nicer monicker than I'd have picked out for you at this point. ... and after all this... you STILL apparently can't read my post. I didn't ask you for the lightest 50 caliber bullet. I can find that on my own. I asked for the lightest .50 BMG bullet... for use in a 50 BMG. >>>FOR USE IN .50 BMG<<< ^^^ Does that spell it out for you? So you can stop reccomending the 300gr barnes. I'd probably be happier if you'd just stop posting in this thread period. But I know your type and I know you would never do that. |
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Guys, Let me be clear on this, STOP the bickering NOW! All this BS isn't getting anything done, either provide an answer or help or stop posting in this thread or it will be closed! Anyway, Orkan you can do a search on the companies that I posted about and check out their bullets. Most of all be safe when you start reloading for your new toy as there's alot of powder in a .50 case. If you need help for a starting load just ask and we'll give you all the help you'll need. |
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Thank you VERY much 50 shooter. I intend to be cautious. :) I have been handloading for about 15 years for my other rifles, so I know the gig. The BMG seems to be a little different animal though. Thats why I'm reading as much as I can and asking questions. Those 570gr lead nosed bullets seemed to be the lightest. Not able to find them for sale anywhere though. I may pop in and ask about a starting load when I get my first few hundred rnds of igman shot up. :) |
| Arizona Ammunition seems to be back in business, they disappeared for awhile but their website is back up. Contact them and ask if they still have those bullets or something similar. arizonaammunition.net/ |
Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to look back into them. I bought a couple hundred rounds from them in the past. It looks like they had some legal problems and are a much smaller company now. About AA |
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