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Originally Posted By iiiwildfireiii: With these crazy prices, I've been seriously considering getting rid of my 249 and going Fightlite w/ binary trigger. What does the hive mind say to this? I would hold on to it at almost all costs. I think the M249S is a unique opportunity to see transferable MG-level appreciation in a newly produced Title I firearm. And probably at a faster rate of return. FN has said they’ll be making more, but due to this being so niche and it’s relatively high retail price when they are readily available ($8000-$9000), this will continue to be a very limited-release and limited-availability firearm. And under these circumstances, they won’t be making many more of these. It’s also highly, highly collectible being an FN-manufactured semi-auto version of their very own M249 rather than a mere parts gun. What’s more, all the parts are out there to convert to an Mk46 or any other M249 variant. There’s just nothing remotely like this situation out there and I can virtually guarantee you’ll see it appreciate almost limitlessly. The Ares/Fightlite just can’t compete here… |
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Originally Posted By Homeinvader: I would hold on to it at almost all costs. I think the M249S is a unique opportunity to see transferable MG-level appreciation in a newly produced Title I firearm. And probably at a faster rate of return. FN has said they’ll be making more, but due to this being so niche and it’s relatively high retail price when they are readily available ($8000-$9000), this will continue to be a very limited-release and limited-availability firearm. And under these circumstances, they won’t be making many more of these. It’s also highly, highly collectible being an FN-manufactured semi-auto version of their very own M249 rather than a mere parts gun. What’s more, all the parts are out there to convert to an Mk46 or any other M249 variant. There’s just nothing remotely like this situation out there and I can virtually guarantee you’ll see it appreciate almost limitlessly. The Ares/Fightlite just can’t compete here… Originally Posted By Homeinvader: Originally Posted By iiiwildfireiii: With these crazy prices, I've been seriously considering getting rid of my 249 and going Fightlite w/ binary trigger. What does the hive mind say to this? I would hold on to it at almost all costs. I think the M249S is a unique opportunity to see transferable MG-level appreciation in a newly produced Title I firearm. And probably at a faster rate of return. FN has said they’ll be making more, but due to this being so niche and it’s relatively high retail price when they are readily available ($8000-$9000), this will continue to be a very limited-release and limited-availability firearm. And under these circumstances, they won’t be making many more of these. It’s also highly, highly collectible being an FN-manufactured semi-auto version of their very own M249 rather than a mere parts gun. What’s more, all the parts are out there to convert to an Mk46 or any other M249 variant. There’s just nothing remotely like this situation out there and I can virtually guarantee you’ll see it appreciate almost limitlessly. The Ares/Fightlite just can’t compete here… Who from FN said they will be making more semi 249's? |
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Originally Posted By jagdkommando: Who from FN said they will be making more semi 249's? I was told that directly by the girl that answered the phone at FN America's customer service. She told me they make them in runs, and another run was in the pipeline but she couldn't give me a specific date as to when they were going to start up again. I mean it wasn't the CEO swearing a blood oath, so put as much or as little credence on it as you like. |
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Originally Posted By Debo75: I was told that directly by the girl that answered the phone at FN America's customer service. She told me they make them in runs, and another run was in the pipeline but she couldn't give me a specific date as to when they were going to start up again. I mean it wasn't the CEO swearing a blood oath, so put as much or as little credence on it as you like. Originally Posted By Debo75: Originally Posted By jagdkommando: Who from FN said they will be making more semi 249's? I was told that directly by the girl that answered the phone at FN America's customer service. She told me they make them in runs, and another run was in the pipeline but she couldn't give me a specific date as to when they were going to start up again. I mean it wasn't the CEO swearing a blood oath, so put as much or as little credence on it as you like. I was also told at the 2019 AUSA Convention by the FN rep there that an M240S was in the works. I am skeptical... |
| The FN M249S Para is on my list if I can find another one for the right/realistic price - that probably won't happen unless they release a new run of them though. |
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Confirmed, coming back Woo Hoo!! 
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Originally Posted By balthezor: On FNs website. regular m249 are 10k, and Para is 10.5. Doesnt matter the color. Originally Posted By balthezor: Originally Posted By balthezor: Anyone see the PARA in stock anywhere yet? On FNs website. regular m249 are 10k, and Para is 10.5. Doesnt matter the color. |
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Confirmed, coming back Fuck yeah And my apologies for whatever I said in 2021 that got edited. My gut reaction was offering to buy one for $7500 on the spot but the comments seem like it was a poor joke Sorry |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: Assuming those are MAP prices and they settle around the 7,500-8,000 mark I think they’ll sell well. No idea how I’m going to justify a Para but I’m sure I’ll think of something. They were over 8K even back then. More likely in the 9K region now. Prices on everything are up since the last time they were readily available. |
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Originally Posted By vellnueve: They were over 8K even back then. More likely in the 9K region now. Prices on everything are up since the last time they were readily available. Originally Posted By vellnueve: Originally Posted By Mblades: Assuming those are MAP prices and they settle around the 7,500-8,000 mark I think they’ll sell well. No idea how I’m going to justify a Para but I’m sure I’ll think of something. They were over 8K even back then. More likely in the 9K region now. Prices on everything are up since the last time they were readily available. I’m just basing my guess on MAP vs retail prices on their other stuff. According to FN SCAR 20s are $4800. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: Assuming those are MAP prices and they settle around the 7,500-8,000 mark I think they’ll sell well. No idea how I’m going to justify a Para but I’m sure I’ll think of something. Good point I didn’t think of map pricing when I was looking. |
| Nope. They were going to release one after the M249S, but did not. To my knowledge, OOW is the only big manufacturer to release one. |
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Originally Posted By vidsicious: Inflation and market pricing, it seems fair. There is another recall on the m249's by the way, for all those built before 2022 which is all of them. I seem to remember paying around 7200-7500 when I got mine. I'd like to get the original stock and barrel vs the para which I have, so I may buy another one. They are novelties, but I still like having them. |
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Originally Posted By Lostinthedark: Has anyone heard of FN releasing a semi 240? I asked one of my local dealers about an allocation for a 249s. He called me back offering a semi 240… I think this is actually an Ohio Ordinance gun but he insisted it was an FN. Thoughts? At the time the first M249S came out, FN did file trademarks for both M249S and M240S. Somebody at FN back then said they were planning on an M240S. |
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Originally Posted By ds1: Which one of these is generally preferred or more collectible? Original stock or para? Not sure I will be able to swing either but am planning/dreaming a bit. I am thinking original stock but am interested in opinions. |
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At the time the first M249S came out, FN did file trademarks for both M249S and M240S. Somebody at FN back then said they were planning on an M240S. This. The FN rep told me in 2018 or so at the AUSA convention about the M240S being in the works, though likely at double the cost of the M249S. But I don't see it ever happening, to be honest. |
| from other page.From my understanding they are changing out all the parts in the trigger mech so it won’t “accidentally” go full giggle. I have talked to one of the guys at FN and he did confirm they have a new ATF reapproved version of the SAW coming out but the internals are COMPLETELY different from the old ones. The ATF got suspicious when so many SOTs were converting them and they reinspected the guns and said it was to easily converted to its original form and no longer could be produced. |
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Originally Posted By rubicon20032003: from other page.From my understanding they are changing out all the parts in the trigger mech so it won’t “accidentally” go full giggle. I have talked to one of the guys at FN and he did confirm they have a new ATF reapproved version of the SAW coming out but the internals are COMPLETELY different from the old ones. The ATF got suspicious when so many SOTs were converting them and they reinspected the guns and said it was to easily converted to its original form and no longer could be produced. Such a ridiculous justification - many guns are easy to convert to FA with a mill and knowledge of what needs to be done, and some common guns just need a drop-in part. Of course this is ATF... |
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They are in the wild! Just got a call from a local gun store that they got their first 249 from the new run. This was a black para model, and he was asking 10k. And of course there are a couple up on Gunbroker already this morning. |
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| MSRP on them is $9,999. Do guns that are readily available ever sell for MSRP, much less $10K guns? I bet that those dealers who are early out the gate may be able to get the higher prices for them, but once they are out more at online places like kygunco and others, I'm guessing the prices will come down. Don't know though. Is this a single run of 5,000 guns and then back to not produced for 10 years? |
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Originally Posted By Debo75: They are in the wild! Just got a call from a local gun store that they got their first 249 from the new run. This was a black para model, and he was asking 10k. And of course there are a couple up on Gunbroker already this morning. Several new listings popped on GB around Weds/Thurs. it seems that all the models are out there because There are new listings for black and FDE in both models around different sites. IE PSA has a black standard and PARA |
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Originally Posted By jtb33: MSRP on them is $9,999. Do guns that are readily available ever sell for MSRP, much less $10K guns? I bet that those dealers who are early out the gate may be able to get the higher prices for them, but once they are out more at online places like kygunco and others, I'm guessing the prices will come down. Don't know though. Is this a single run of 5,000 guns and then back to not produced for 10 years? Before the shutdown these things got down to 6K. I think this new model will be less desirable because the drop in F/A trigger/bolt supposedly won’t work on this one. I give it a few weeks before some creative people have something avail for SOT’s on this one. |
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