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8/7/2014 4:02:57 AM EDT
First of all, I'm a new member of this site and absolutely living outside the USA.  If I unintentional abuse the rules, please forgive me and kindly advise.

I just got this piece today (D.I.A.S) and will try it this weekend with my .22 CMMG at range.  Anyone ever owned it, please advise me about maintenance and proper operation.  Thanks.

http://i.imgur.com/kUIPqOx.jpg
8/7/2014 4:17:05 AM EDT
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How much did it cost you all up?
8/7/2014 4:20:01 AM EDT
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Congratulations! Make sure you have the CMMG sear trip and anti-bound weight and you should be good to go.
8/7/2014 4:31:13 AM EDT
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What's the legality and process to own firearms in The Philippines?
Are the rules different for full-auto?
8/7/2014 6:14:33 AM EDT
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Sorry as I have selected wrong country when registered.  I actually live in Phillipines.
8/7/2014 7:15:15 AM EDT
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The CMMG trip is out of spec and will a problem with a DIAS.

Unless they re-designed the trip in the last year.  I dont know.

I showed that the trip was faulty on threads in the CMMG forum.

It can be made to work but not worth the trouble.
8/7/2014 8:24:07 PM EDT
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Yes, I got them.  thanks.
8/7/2014 8:25:34 PM EDT
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1,000$
8/7/2014 8:39:20 PM EDT
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Damn.
8/7/2014 9:24:23 PM EDT
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Damn.

Lmao..... Damn...
8/7/2014 9:37:17 PM EDT
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Multiply that by 10 or 15. That's what we have to pay for one.

Enjoy it while you can. Post some videos and rub it in our faces.
8/7/2014 9:38:05 PM EDT
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Don't be too sad guys.  The gun laws in the states (most of them atleast) are still much better than over there.  Still a little jealous of that price though!
8/8/2014 7:12:05 AM EDT
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What's the process for buying something like that?



 
8/10/2014 2:09:33 PM EDT
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I'd own at least 20 of them at that price.
8/11/2014 10:56:48 AM EDT
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Dumb question:

Does semi still work, and if so, how is the drop-in sear moved out of the way by the selector?
8/11/2014 1:03:31 PM EDT
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It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.
8/11/2014 1:21:40 PM EDT
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It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.
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Does semi still work, and if so, how is the drop-in sear moved out of the way by the selector?

It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.


Thanks for that information. I had no idea how that thing worked. Now I understand.
8/11/2014 1:23:38 PM EDT
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It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.
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Does semi still work, and if so, how is the drop-in sear moved out of the way by the selector?

It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.



Does a lightning link also require full auto fire control parts? Me and a few friends were discussing this the other day and were unsure.
8/11/2014 1:33:51 PM EDT
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Does a lightning link also require full auto fire control parts? Me and a few friends were discussing this the other day and were unsure.
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Dumb question:

Does semi still work, and if so, how is the drop-in sear moved out of the way by the selector?

It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.



Does a lightning link also require full auto fire control parts? Me and a few friends were discussing this the other day and were unsure.

No. It works with standard semi fire-control parts ... though you only have two positions: SAFE and FULL-AUTO.

If you want to shoot it semi and do not want to have to remove the RLL to do so, there is a way to modify a full-auto fire-control group to use with the RLL and give you SAFE/SEMI/FULL. But again, that is not required for the link to function.
8/11/2014 1:34:48 PM EDT
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Cool, thanks for clearing that up. Now I see why they are not so popular. (Does it also require an SP1 carrier?)
8/11/2014 1:34:50 PM EDT
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8/12/2014 7:43:10 AM EDT
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It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.
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Dumb question:

Does semi still work, and if so, how is the drop-in sear moved out of the way by the selector?

It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.


I was under the impression that, in a factory M16, when you select AUTO a cam on the selector interacts with an arm on the auto-sear allowing it rotate into such a position that it can engage the "auto-lug" on the M16 hammer.  I still don't follow how the DIAS isn't in the way of that "auto-lug" when SEMI is selected.
8/12/2014 8:11:57 AM EDT
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I was under the impression that, in a factory M16, when you select AUTO a cam on the selector interacts with an arm on the auto-sear allowing it rotate into such a position that it can engage the "auto-lug" on the M16 hammer.  I still don't follow how the DIAS isn't in the way of that "auto-lug" when SEMI is selected.
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Dumb question:

Does semi still work, and if so, how is the drop-in sear moved out of the way by the selector?

It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.


I was under the impression that, in a factory M16, when you select AUTO a cam on the selector interacts with an arm on the auto-sear allowing it rotate into such a position that it can engage the "auto-lug" on the M16 hammer.  I still don't follow how the DIAS isn't in the way of that "auto-lug" when SEMI is selected.


With an M16 auto sear, the M16 selector, on auto, holds down the extended tail of the disconnector, and has a relief for the tail of the M16 auto sear to allow it to move and function.
On semi, the M16 sear is pushed out of the way by the selector and becomes stationary, while the disconnector is allowed to move and function.

With a DIAS, the auto sear has no tail and moves and functions 100% of the time, as it is not held back by the selector on semi.
In semi, the disconnector is still holding the hammer when the bolt closes and trips the auto sear, so the hammer doesn't drop until the trigger is reset and pulled again.
8/13/2014 7:40:02 PM EDT
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With an M16 auto sear, the M16 selector, on auto, holds down the extended tail of the disconnector, and has a relief for the tail of the M16 auto sear to allow it to move and function.
On semi, the M16 sear is pushed out of the way by the selector and becomes stationary, while the disconnector is allowed to move and function.

With a DIAS, the auto sear has no tail and moves and functions 100% of the time, as it is not held back by the selector on semi.
In semi, the disconnector is still holding the hammer when the bolt closes and trips the auto sear, so the hammer doesn't drop until the trigger is reset and pulled again.
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Dumb question:

Does semi still work, and if so, how is the drop-in sear moved out of the way by the selector?

It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.


I was under the impression that, in a factory M16, when you select AUTO a cam on the selector interacts with an arm on the auto-sear allowing it rotate into such a position that it can engage the "auto-lug" on the M16 hammer.  I still don't follow how the DIAS isn't in the way of that "auto-lug" when SEMI is selected.


With an M16 auto sear, the M16 selector, on auto, holds down the extended tail of the disconnector, and has a relief for the tail of the M16 auto sear to allow it to move and function.
On semi, the M16 sear is pushed out of the way by the selector and becomes stationary, while the disconnector is allowed to move and function.

With a DIAS, the auto sear has no tail and moves and functions 100% of the time, as it is not held back by the selector on semi.
In semi, the disconnector is still holding the hammer when the bolt closes and trips the auto sear, so the hammer doesn't drop until the trigger is reset and pulled again.


Yep

With and M16, on safe, the sear is moved out of the way
With a RDIAS, the sear is always used in semi or full auto, like how a full auto AK is. In semi, when the bolt trips the RDIAS, it releases the hammer but is caught by the disconnector.
8/13/2014 7:42:15 PM EDT
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Thanks for that information. I had no idea how that thing worked. Now I understand.
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Dumb question:

Does semi still work, and if so, how is the drop-in sear moved out of the way by the selector?

It doesn't get moved ... because it doesn't have to.

The drop-in sear locates the autosear in the exact same position in the full-auto fire-control group as does a factory, drilled receiver. So the drop-in sear interacts with the full-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector/selector in the same way that a factory sear does.

That's why when you have a DIAS, you must switch out the host's semi fire-control group for a full-auto fire-control group. Otherwise, it will not work.


Thanks for that information. I had no idea how that thing worked. Now I understand.


Worst video I've ever made, and it's a bit long.  If you have 15 minutes though, it will explain everything about a RDIAS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdR7rEuLrvE
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