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Posted: 11/26/2009 3:51:14 PM EDT
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My latest score 2 transferable M16A1 lowers from a Sheriff's Dept.
NOT FOR SALE Just wanted to gloat.... Sorry for the poor pics. 
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How is it that U.S. Property marked M16A1's are transferable? Not saying they aren't, I just don't understand how they could be. If transferred from the military to the department before 5/19/86. Such transfers would have been tax-free on F5 (to/from a gov't entity), but would result in the military M16's being entered into the NFRTR. |
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How is it that U.S. Property marked M16A1's are transferable? Not saying they aren't, I just don't understand how they could be. If transferred from the military to the department before 5/19/86. Such transfers would have been tax-free on F5 (to/from a gov't entity), but would result in the military M16's being entered into the NFRTR. DIng! A county near me sold one or two last year. lots of publicity in the papers and on the news the sheeple were freaking about a machine gun for sale. |
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If transferred from the military to the department before 5/19/86. Such transfers would have been tax-free on F5 (to/from a gov't entity), but would result in the military M16's being entered into the NFRTR. Sure. But does the police department have title to these guns? |
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How is it that U.S. Property marked M16A1's are transferable? Not saying they aren't, I just don't understand how they could be. If transferred from the military to the department before 5/19/86. Such transfers would have been tax-free on F5 (to/from a gov't entity), but would result in the military M16's being entered into the NFRTR. I suppose that is possible, but I would think they would transfer on a Form 10 and therefore not be transferable. Also, I have never heard of the military dispossing of firearms in this manner other than the 1033 program and these too would not be transferable. Again, not saying it could not have happened, just have never heard of it. |
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I suppose that is possible, but I would think they would transfer on a Form 10 and therefore not be transferable. Also, I have never heard of the military dispossing of firearms in this manner other than the 1033 program and these too would not be transferable. Again, not saying it could not have happened, just have never heard of it. I know of some from the early 1970s. Most initially were given to non-military federal agencies like the Department of Energy, which (like LE agencies) must register their MGs, and so they used Form 5's. When those agencies got newer equipment, they in turn sold/traded them to SOTs and they went on to civilian homes. .gov did not start restricting LE resale of surplus MGs until the 1970's. That's why you can also still find transferable Thompsons, M2 Carbines, M3 Grease Guns in LE armories –– they were given a lot of stuff in the 1950s and '60s, and the only requirement was that they register them –– no restrictions or rules about how. |
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I suppose that is possible, but I would think they would transfer on a Form 10 and therefore not be transferable. Also, I have never heard of the military dispossing of firearms in this manner other than the 1033 program and these too would not be transferable. Again, not saying it could not have happened, just have never heard of it. I know of some from the early 1970s. Most initially were given to non-military federal agencies like the Department of Energy, which (like LE agencies) must register their MGs, and so they used Form 5's. When those agencies got newer equipment, they in turn sold/traded them to SOTs and they went on to civilian homes. .gov did not start restricting LE resale of surplus MGs until the 1970's. That's why you can also still find transferable Thompsons, M2 Carbines, M3 Grease Guns in LE armories –– they were given a lot of stuff in the 1950s and '60s, and the only requirement was that they register them –– no restrictions or rules about how. Thanks Tony, that makes sense. |
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I suppose that is possible, but I would think they would transfer on a Form 10 and therefore not be transferable. Also, I have never heard of the military dispossing of firearms in this manner other than the 1033 program and these too would not be transferable. Again, not saying it could not have happened, just have never heard of it. I know of some from the early 1970s. Most initially were given to non-military federal agencies like the Department of Energy, which (like LE agencies) must register their MGs, and so they used Form 5's. When those agencies got newer equipment, they in turn sold/traded them to SOTs and they went on to civilian homes. .gov did not start restricting LE resale of surplus MGs until the 1970's. That's why you can also still find transferable Thompsons, M2 Carbines, M3 Grease Guns in LE armories –– they were given a lot of stuff in the 1950s and '60s, and the only requirement was that they register them –– no restrictions or rules about how. The coroner in my county supposedly has two M3s... 
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