Armory Sponsor
Posted: 5/12/2010 4:42:02 AM EDT
 Looks like a CCF Race Frame welded onto a Mac frame. It's for sale on GB. Anyone know who does the conversion? |
|
Shockwave Technologies makes one like this, but it looks cheesy.
http://www.shockwavetechnologies.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=49&<br />osCsid=a57832c6b90751bfa05a82027e84795a |
|
That is awesome.
1- Taking a Mac-11 and converting it to 9mm is awesome 2- Glock mags are MAD cheap, Korean imports are cheap & readily available 3- This idea is pretty awesome. It really is the best of both worlds; compact 9mm MAC with cheap mags I would be a bit concerned with spare parts, but I think this is a cool idea. I don't think I could afford it and it's not that much cheaper than an Uzi, but it is really, really cool. When 922(o) gets lifted, I'll be interested in a new production model 
|
|
Quoted:
http://www.pdmall.com/1/1/2/6103.jpg
Looks like a CCF Race Frame welded onto a Mac frame. It's for sale on GB. Anyone know who does the conversion? I saw that today too... 
|
|
Quoted:
When 922(o) gets lifted, I'll be interested in a new production model
What does 922 have to do with this? It's a cheap guy's way of saying "That's awesome, but it's not $6,000 awesome, if it was under a thousand bucks or so I'd buy it." In the instance of this hypothetical scenario, a F/A new production Masterpiece Arms would be sub-$400 and a Colt M4 would be about $1500 
|
|
Quoted:
The frame is a Semi auto open bolt 380. What does it mean full auto trigger? Is the trigger a registered conversion part? Well snap, that's a good catch. Maybe someone registered a bolt with a fixed firing pin or something? The first time I looked this over, I did NOT catch the S/N or lack of fun switch. I would assume it's legal a la registered Uzi bolt, but hope it's not later ruled like a married DIAS that was a technically illegal conversion 
|
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
The frame is a Semi auto open bolt 380. What does it mean full auto trigger? Is the trigger a registered conversion part? Well snap, that's a good catch. Maybe someone registered a bolt with a fixed firing pin or something? The first time I looked this over, I did NOT catch the S/N or lack of fun switch. I would assume it's legal a la registered Uzi bolt, but hope it's not later ruled like a married DIAS that was a technically illegal conversion According to the guy who built it ... it uses one of the nine "conversion triggers" registered pre-1986 by Broadhead Armory. It is like an RDIAS or a registered HK sear –– you can drop it in any host. There is no "married" issue –– it was registered as an MG conversion device, has its own SN, etc. It was not installed in a host gun until Len Savage built it last year. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The frame is a Semi auto open bolt 380. What does it mean full auto trigger? Is the trigger a registered conversion part? Well snap, that's a good catch. Maybe someone registered a bolt with a fixed firing pin or something? The first time I looked this over, I did NOT catch the S/N or lack of fun switch. I would assume it's legal a la registered Uzi bolt, but hope it's not later ruled like a married DIAS that was a technically illegal conversion According to the guy who built it ... it uses one of the nine "conversion triggers" registered pre-1986 by Broadhead Armory. It is like an RDIAS or a registered HK sear –– you can drop it in any host. There is no "married" issue –– it was registered as an MG conversion device, has its own SN, etc. It was not installed in a host gun until Len Savage built it last year. interesting. i''ve always wondered if conversion devices existed for the MAC family. i kinda always figured they'd be registered bolts though. |
|
Quoted:
According to the guy who built it ... it uses one of the nine "conversion triggers" registered pre-1986 by Broadhead Armory. It is like an RDIAS or a registered HK sear –– you can drop it in any host. There is no "married" issue –– it was registered as an MG conversion device, has its own SN, etc. It was not installed in a host gun until Len Savage built it last year. Hmm... that's pretty cool, Tony. Do you have any idea how exactly it works, i.e. open or close bolt? Is this something that could be dropped in any MAC style pistol like one of the new production Masterpiece Arms builds? It seems like this would be highly desirable for a MAC owner if it's an easy drop in (seeing as hosts are pretty cheap compared to frames) but if it's an entire complicated contraption that sounds more like a PITA. |
|
I don't have one, but based on what I've read and the pix I've seen:
––It only works on open-bolt semi Mac hosts, the ones built prior to June 12, 1982 (before ATF banned them). ––While it is called a "conversion trigger," it's more than one piece of metal. Open-bolt Macs do not have hammers –– just trigger, sear and disconnector. The conversion unit replaces both the trigger and either the sear or disconnector (or both; I forget). No mods are required to the host gun –– you just remove the old parts and install the new ones. The biggest downside is rarity and cost: Only nine made, and this is the first one I've seen for sale. It's listed with a starting price of $5,500 but hasn't received any bids yet. 
|
|
Here's a couple more.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7259/machineguntriggers001.jpg Yeah, I got a Machine gun on my Keychain. 
|
|
Quoted:
So is it just a standard trigger with the trip arm cut off the disconnector and registered? Judging by GunBowanna's HILARIOUS picture, the registered triggers (at least some of them) are one-piece, incorporating the "trip-less disconnector" into the trigger itself. Although a trigger as j3_ described it would have worked equally well for this purpose. |
| OK, question. I understand the differences between the operation of open and closed bolt firings. But if someone took one of these registered triggers and open bolt parts, could a new production MAC-pattern pistol such as a Masterpiece Arms be turned into an open-bolt SMG? I just ask since while the conversion trigger is pretty cool, open bolt semi-auto MAC pistols are getting pricey as a finite number of these collectible items still exist. I'm sure you'd have to destroy the converted host if you removed the conversion trigger, but I'm just trying to think out loud about this unique item. |
Armory Sponsor