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Posted: 12/4/2008 10:10:37 AM EDT
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I really want one. I would like this to be a "coming home from the sand box" present to myslef. Does anyone know where to find them? Prices? Can they be had at all?
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Nope, practically no way at all short of becoming a class III dealer or a Class II 
and besides - after a few mags, the novelty wears off a bit. Ain't that the truth. I have an FSSG switch and I used in once on the 9x19 slide. The rest of the time it's been on an AA .22 conversion. I'm going to try it on a .380 next. It won't cycle with a suppressor either, a suppressor would tame the muzzle-rise allot. |
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Nope, practically no way at all short of becoming a class III dealer or a Class II
and besides - after a few mags, the novelty wears off a bit. Ain't that the truth. I have an FSSG switch and I used in once on the 9x19 slide. The rest of the time it's been on an AA .22 conversion. I'm going to try it on a .380 next. It won't cycle with a suppressor either, a suppressor would tame the muzzle-rise allot. d If you want to tame the muzzle rise, put it on a G19C. We've run a post sample on my G19C. It stays flat. We have dumped an entire G18 mag COM on a B27 at 10 yards w/o any problem.  It was more controllable than a G18C IMO.
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There are some civilian transferable Beretta 93Rs floating around.
Not to many though and the price reflects the rarity of the piece. Not sure what you budget is but the last couple I have seen have been asked around $25,000 to $30,000. However, this will get you a very similar machine pistol to the Glock 18. ....or you could go the "poor man's" machine pistol route and get an M11/380 for $3,000 or a micro uzi for around $8,000 all of which are bullet hoses like the G18. James Austin, Texas |
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I really want one. I would like this to be a "coming home from the sand box" present to myslef. Does anyone know where to find them? Prices? Can they be had at all? Thanks. Thanks for serving our country. No you can't have one. Like the rest of us, you cannot be trusted. |
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My department paid $500 for the one I have issued to me. It is very nice! 
I believe one can be transfered to a SOT dealer from a department. Is this your issued sidearm? What type of department are you with??? Also, I think I read there are less than a dozen transferable Glock autosears out there. And about the same number of 93R's. |
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....or you could go the "poor man's" machine pistol route and get an M11/380 for $3,000 or a micro uzi for around $8,000 all of which are bullet hoses like the G18. James Austin, Texas And both of which have stocks that will help to control the muzzle rise. There is no effective stock available for the Glock and the Beretta 'stock' is a joke. |
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....or you could go the "poor man's" machine pistol route and get an M11/380 for $3,000 or a micro uzi for around $8,000 all of which are bullet hoses like the G18. James Austin, Texas And both of which have stocks that will help to control the muzzle rise. There is no effective stock available for the Glock and the Beretta 'stock' is a joke. You don't need a stock to control the muzzle rise if you shoot a ported gun. The 18C is good, a 19C is better. A stock is going to help w/ accuracy, but it's not necessary to keep the muzzle down. |
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Also, I think I read there are less than a dozen transferable Glock autosears out there. I'm surprised there are any... I don't beleive there are any transferrable Glock Autosears. A. The first Glock 17s to come into the Country from my understanding didnt make it here until October of 1986. Which unfortunately puts them into the Country to late by 5 months after FOPA went into effect. B. Although just anecdotal, I have been purchasing NFA firearms for almost 10 years and have never seen a Glock autosear for sale. I guess it is possible that somebody managed to personally import a G17 before Glock Inc (Smyrna GA) even started bringing guns into the Country and made an autosear for it. or.. Somebody could have been clairvoyant and F1ed an autosear for a gun that didnt exist in the US based off Glock blueprints. Most likely if there is a "transferrable" Glock autosear out there it is somebody who had a very generic F1 for some homebuilt prototype machinegun prior to May 86 and then utilized the existing F1 to build an glock autosear at some point after FOPA was enacted. The sear would be transferrable "on paper" but would probably not hold up under any scrutiny by the ATF. James Austin, Texas |
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+1.
I've also been doing this for decades, and have never seen a verifiable example. Doesn't mean they are not out there, tho. It's also worth remembering that there are dozens and dozens of MGs in the NFA Registry which are not what they seem (M240s registered as M11/9's), or were incorrectly registered. These guns are the legal equivalent of a game of musical chairs: They transfer around and around, until the moment BATFE discovers them: Then the current registered owner loses them. And unless they can locate and sue the person who sold it to them, they are also out the purchase price. I would be really cautious if offered a transferable Glock sear or Glock 18. 
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When I went through the Glock Armorers class, we were told that Glock 18's could only be transfered to a department and there were very few of those. There was another option for the movie makers but I don't remember the peticulars. They are damn cool though. It's my understanding that Glock will only sell G18s to departments, but the departments can sell them once they have them. I've handled & shot a G18C which belonged to a local police department. When they got a new Chief he decided it was a liability so he sold it to a C3. That C3 sold it to another C3. They're around. |
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I saw a transferable Glock autosear go for $40k.  Oh really? Really. It was not exactly anything fancy - it was a non-selectable slide cover replacement. FA only. But I did not see the paper on it, who knows what story is in there !! That doesn't mean it's transferable |
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I saw a transferable Glock autosear go for $40k. Oh really? Really. It was not exactly anything fancy - it was a non-selectable slide cover replacement. FA only. But I did not see the paper on it, who knows what story is in there !! That doesn't mean it's transferable Agreed, it doesn't mean it's transferrable. $40K would indicate it was a transferable MG. A non-select-fire post86 cover plate would run about 40 bucks or so. |
Got to shoot a post 18 years ago up in New Hampshire where a C2 by the name of Carl Silver, who has now passed, allowed me to shoot his post 86 Glock 18. He had a pretty cool front grip on the pistol that was about the size of the old 35mm film container that somehow, (almost screwed into) attached to the front left of the trigger guard, 90 degrees to the grip. No stock needed, made dumping the 33 round mags very controllable. I must have shot 700 rounds that day, I even think it was his (PD's) ammo 
GOOD OLE DAYS DILLION |
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Where was the sale of this alleged transferable Glock switch (i.e. was it advertised anywhere?)? It was advertised online, but for the life of me I don't remeber where. As I said, it was early in my NFAdom and I didn't realize what I was looking at. that price would indicate autoweapons.com, but i typically follow sturm and subguns, but it may have been an online listing for a dealer too. sorry i don't have more info - like i said if i knew what it was, i'd have saved the auction and maybe asked a question or two. neat, yes. $40k? NFW. |
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This thread sucks without pictures: http://www.texassmallarmsresearch.com/av/Glock18C.jpg http://www.texassmallarmsresearch.com/av/GlockDevice-2.jpg I remember that top one, it was a hoot! |
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Also, I think I read there are less than a dozen transferable Glock autosears out there. And about the same number of 93R's. I'd like to know how anyone knows the quantity of anything in the NFRTR. I'd like to know how there are *ANY* transferable 93Rs. With a quick search Wikipedia (I know it's not the most reliable, but it's a start on research) shows they were designed in the 70s. Unless they were made in the states they would be a presample at best. |
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I'd like to know how there are *ANY* transferable 93Rs. With a quick search Wikipedia (I know it's not the most reliable, but it's a start on research) shows they were designed in the 70s. Unless they were made in the states they would be a presample at best. The one I saw for sale was actually a Taurus PT92 (Beretta copy) which had been converted prior to 5/19/86, then had been "redone" by Stan Andrewski. Not an M93R, but a really nice clone of one. |
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I'd like to know how there are *ANY* transferable 93Rs. With a quick search Wikipedia (I know it's not the most reliable, but it's a start on research) shows they were designed in the 70s. Unless they were made in the states they would be a presample at best. The one I saw for sale was actually a Taurus PT92 (Beretta copy) which had been converted prior to 5/19/86, then had been "redone" by Stan Andrewski. Not an M93R, but a really nice clone of one. Yup. there are conversions out there. There also are the Dave Boatman 93R clones –– he went to Italy, bought seven new 93Rs, destroyed the frames, imported the rest and built them up here as transferables on brand new frames (six aluminum frames and one titanium frame). They are sweet! |
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