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4/11/2007 3:52:45 PM EDT
I am going to be taking posession of a couple SBR's and I am wondering if they can be stored in the same safe as my non NFA weapons?
Or do NFA weapons need to be stored separately in a  gun safe dedicated for only NFA weapons?
4/11/2007 3:54:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Same safe is fine!  
4/11/2007 3:59:16 PM EDT
[#2]

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I am going to be taking posession of a couple SBR's and I am wondering if they can be stored in the same safe as my non NFA weapons?
Or do NFA weapons need to be stored separately in a  gun safe dedicated for only NFA weapons?

They can be stored in the same safe, BUT they can't touch each other.
4/11/2007 5:54:08 PM EDT
[#3]

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They can be stored in the same safe, BUT they can't touch each other.


If they do, you'll have total protonic reversal, which is a bad thing.
4/11/2007 5:57:07 PM EDT
[#4]

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They can be stored in the same safe, BUT they can't touch each other.


If they do, you'll have total protonic reversal, which is a bad thing.




Jesus No ..........................LMAOROTF
4/11/2007 6:06:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Their not supposed to touch so some guys put a sheet of plastic between thier NFA and non-NFA weapons.  3 mil or thicker is best.

BD1
4/11/2007 6:17:49 PM EDT
[#6]
You guys are bad.  Next you'll be telling him about the batfe surprise inspections.  you shouldn't scare the new guys.
4/11/2007 6:21:49 PM EDT
[#7]

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Their not supposed to touch so some guys put a sheet of plastic between thier NFA and non-NFA weapons.  3 mil or thicker is best.

BD1


You know why the BATFE made this rule?  I found out - I once put my 20" AR away next to my 10.5 SBR, and no shit, the next day, I had a litter of little 7.5 pistols in my safe.  Now anytime I need some trade fodder I just lift up my plastic sheet and let em go at it.
4/11/2007 8:40:30 PM EDT
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You guys are bad.  Next you'll be telling him about the batfe surprise inspections.  you shouldn't scare the new guys.



Shhhhhhhhhssshhh!
4/19/2007 4:52:11 PM EDT
[#9]

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I am going to be taking posession of a couple SBR's and I am wondering if they can be stored in the same safe as my non NFA weapons?
Or do NFA weapons need to be stored separately in a  gun safe dedicated for only NFA weapons?



Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.
4/19/2007 5:14:26 PM EDT
[#10]

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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.
4/19/2007 5:40:55 PM EDT
[#11]
+1
4/20/2007 1:05:06 PM EDT
[#12]

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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.


It can be construed as unlawful possession.
4/20/2007 3:00:35 PM EDT
[#13]

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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.


The ATF's own website says you must store it where no one other than the registered owner has access to it.  

The fact that no one has been prosecuted for it yet doesn't mean it isn't technically in violation of the law.
4/21/2007 10:20:59 AM EDT
[#14]

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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.





Right on!................Goddamn, what is with some of these folks.............As I read it, the folks from Ohio must need instructions written on each sheet of rolled TP....
4/25/2007 12:07:25 PM EDT
[#15]

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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.


The ATF's own website says you must store it where no one other than the registered owner has access to it.  

The fact that no one has been prosecuted for it yet doesn't mean it isn't technically in violation of the law.


Access equals possesion and only you can possess the NFA item.

Same deal with felons and guns.  If you have a felon over and your gun is sitting on the desk, he is technically commiting a crime.
4/25/2007 12:08:30 PM EDT
[#16]

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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.


Look at any firearm laws.  Access equals posseion as in the case of felons and just being around guns.  I would say the same interpretation applies to NFA weapons.
4/26/2007 8:50:26 AM EDT
[#17]

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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.





Right on!................Goddamn, what is with some of these folks.............As I read it, the folks from Ohio must need instructions written on each sheet of rolled TP....


Apparently some people in FL want to meet Bubba on more personal terms...
4/26/2007 11:08:17 AM EDT
[#18]
not to long ago someone lost thier nfa collection because it was accessible to a felon.
it was in indiana.
4/27/2007 6:09:40 AM EDT
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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.





Right on!................Goddamn, what is with some of these folks.............As I read it, the folks from Ohio must need instructions written on each sheet of rolled TP....


Apparently some people in FL want to meet Bubba on more personal terms...




Well Paratrooper, you know the saying about the two things that come out of the air....and they both stink!

Besides, there's gotta be a "ketchin" before there's a hangin..........CITE ME THE CASE WHERE ANY NFA OWNERS BEEN CHARGED IN SUCH A SCENARO.

My bitch is that some of you people apparently want minute direction on every minuscule aspect of that hobby.....And it is particularly noticeable with you yankees.
4/27/2007 10:21:17 AM EDT
[#20]

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Well Paratrooper, you know the saying about the two things that come out of the air....and they both stink!

Besides, there's gotta be a "ketchin" before there's a hangin..........CITE ME THE CASE WHERE ANY NFA OWNERS BEEN CHARGED IN SUCH A SCENARO.

My bitch is that some of you people apparently want minute direction on every minuscule aspect of that hobby.....And it is particularly noticeable with you yankees.


Given the stakes of the game, it seems to me to be foolish to do otherwise.  After all, the stakes of this game are "lose your rights for life" and that is a wager I'm not willing to take, for ANY reason.
4/27/2007 12:59:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Please read the rules of this forum: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=22&t=199932

BATF regulations carry the weight of law. You are free to comply or ignore them -- but this forum does not permit discussion of illegal acts, and that includes violating BATF regulations.
4/27/2007 1:27:53 PM EDT
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Ok seriously though. If anyone else has access to the safe that you keep your non-NFA guns in then maybe you should have a separate safe since no one other than yourself is allowed to have access to your NFA items. This is assuming that the NFA items are registered to you and not a trust, corporation, etc.


Barring any further documentation, such as an BATFE letter, I would have to severely doubt any necessity to store your NFA weapons in some other inaccessible location that a spouse couldn't access.  Nowhere in the statutes or CFR's (that I know of) does it state that one must secure an NFA weapon any more securely than sitting on top of your mantel.  Methinks that many an NFA-item has stood in a closet and there's never been an issue.





Right on!................Goddamn, what is with some of these folks.............As I read it, the folks from Ohio must need instructions written on each sheet of rolled TP....


Apparently some people in FL want to meet Bubba on more personal terms...




Well Paratrooper, you know the saying about the two things that come out of the air....and they both stink!

Besides, there's gotta be a "ketchin" before there's a hangin..........CITE ME THE CASE WHERE ANY NFA OWNERS BEEN CHARGED IN SUCH A SCENARO.

My bitch is that some of you people apparently want minute direction on every minuscule aspect of that hobby.....And it is particularly noticeable with you yankees.


American by birth, Southern by the grace of God.  I was born in GA.
4/27/2007 8:10:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Thread refuses to stay on-topic for a technical forum.
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