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6/3/2006 4:24:12 PM EDT
Does anyone have any information on MAC briefcases? You know, a briefcase where an M10 or M11 is mounted, and can fire from? I've seen them in the past, and have seen them for others. Do they still exist? Can they be purchased? What about plans or design to DIY? I'm guessing the briefcase itself would be concidered an AOW?
5/25/2006 10:56:44 AM EDT
[#1]
I saw those vids last week.  Nice.

There are examples there of how you SHOULD handle the case to control it while firing.

The shells don't leave the case.  
5/24/2006 11:31:14 PM EDT
[#2]
I've seen the HK briefcase for the MP5K sell for $1500 in the past few weeks.
Here is another thread in which I posted several videos of me firing the MP5K in the briefcase (latest video from today:  HK briefcase in action
5/24/2006 6:21:27 PM EDT
[#3]
What's the going rate for an honest to goodness H&K MP5K briefcase????

Scott
5/24/2006 2:54:08 PM EDT
[#4]
cool
5/24/2006 3:42:16 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Something like this is what your looking for I'm guessing.

i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/CousinIT50/Mp5k_brief.jpg



How do the casings eject
5/24/2006 12:16:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Did some looking around, and finally found a pic of such a beast

5/29/2006 5:04:46 PM EDT
[#7]
I had a book somewhere that had a pic of an original Corbay M11 380 with suppressor in a custom brief case. The whole thing fitted in the case with supressor attached and had a neat place to slip a business card in to cover up the firing hole.

Like the MP5 version this was fired from a switch on the trigger but was suppressed. I remember reading the byline ofthe picture that said that this brief case model was used by Phillipino Secret Service to kill a would be attacker that  tried to kill their president.
5/29/2006 5:48:42 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I had a book somewhere that had a pic of an original Corbay M11 380 with suppressor in a custom brief case. The whole thing fitted in the case with supressor attached and had a neat place to slip a business card in to cover up the firing hole.

Like the MP5 version this was fired from a switch on the trigger but was suppressed. I remember reading the byline ofthe picture that said that this brief case model was used by Phillipino Secret Service to kill a would be attacker that  tried to kill their president.



really?  I would think that whatever they might have on hand would be good enough to kill a would-be attacker.  Or was it their way of taking a ton of firepower and not making it so noticable?
5/29/2006 5:54:02 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Did some looking around, and finally found a pic of such a beast

i4.tinypic.com/10mpshv.jpg



Interesting.  Doesn't look like there is much clearance between the ejection port and the top of the briefcase when closed.  Looks like it would be prone to jam or stovepipe.
4/23/2006 11:24:36 PM EDT
[#10]
The briefcase is never registered or regulated, the weapon hiding is what gets registered,
4/23/2006 11:53:38 PM EDT
[#11]
Guess I'm the Grinch tonite.

If this is other than an academic exercise....

IMHO, firing-from-within briefcases are just so cool ... but I would never own one unless someone gave it to me. And even then, I doubt I'd use it more than once or twice, and only under the most strict conditions.

First, open-bolt MGs like Mac-family guns should be handled and treated with the utmost respect. By themselves, they are  technically prone to runaways, magnified by important tolerances in poorly built parts. I've had runaways in NIB first-time-shot Macs; if anything, the risk increases with use. I love them and they are completely safe as long as you treat them with respect and are aware of the potential dangers.

Add in a case which fires the SMG via either a mechanical linkage or a solenoid and you are increasing the safety risk exponentially. Having to monitor and worry about a worn sear or bolt is one thing; I just do not want the liability added by a linkage or solenoid in a life-or-death situation ... and the moment you put a loaded mag into a briefcase-mounted SMG, you are in that situation, like it or not.

Second, a M11/9mm running at the usual 1,000 rpm is a handful by itself. There is no way you can safely control an M11/9mm briefcase at that ROF. Simple ergonomics are impossible, and God help you if that force makes it break loose and pivot within the case. You will dump half a mag into your crotch before the mag is empty.

Mac briefcases are great display items. But if you want to play risky, go buy an operational flamethrower. Holding a match with a coupla gallons of keroscene strapped on your back is much safer.
4/23/2006 11:58:19 PM EDT
[#12]

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and God help you if that force makes it break loose and pivot within the case. You will dump half a mag into your crotch before the mag is empty.




Whenever I think I may have a pretty good handle on all the fucked up things that might happen to my crotch, someone adds another one.
4/23/2006 11:11:49 AM EDT
[#13]

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I'm guessing the briefcase itself would be concidered an AOW?


The gun would have to be registered as an AOW, if you use a semi-auto with the case.  If you use a MG, you're good to go.

Don't ask me to explain the logic.  There isn't any.
4/23/2006 11:13:29 AM EDT
[#14]
Something like this is what your looking for I'm guessing.

4/23/2006 11:19:57 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Something like this is what your looking for I'm guessing.

i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/CousinIT50/Mp5k_brief.jpg



Exactly. And it will be used with a registered M10.
4/23/2006 11:38:47 AM EDT
[#16]
There was an article about a DIY briefcase; I think it was in MGN.  I've also seen plans online for a solenoid fired version.
6/4/2006 6:57:13 PM EDT
[#17]
Yeah I would like to have one for an M11 with suppressor

Somebody should be able to recreate that item somewhere
6/6/2006 7:30:00 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Yeah I would like to have one for an M11 with suppressor

Somebody should be able to recreate that item somewhere



I talked to the MFG'er of the one i found. he said that making one work with a suppressor is no problem at all. however, he is not currently making them....instead he's working on higher cap mags.

He offered to let me try his, but won't sell it or make any additional ones.
6/6/2006 8:56:44 AM EDT
[#19]
I must have one!
6/8/2006 6:53:17 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yeah I would like to have one for an M11 with suppressor

Somebody should be able to recreate that item somewhere



I talked to the MFG'er of the one i found. he said that making one work with a suppressor is no problem at all. however, he is not currently making them....instead he's working on higher cap mags.

He offered to let me try his, but won't sell it or make any additional ones.



Damn!

It is amazing you could make this stuff thirty years ago and now we can't find ANYBODY that will make one for us.
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