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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:36:58 PM EDT
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In case anyone is interested, OOW is having a special on bulk grenade fuses today. I have no association with OOW whatsoever.
OOW Grenade Fuse Deal expired, link is just to the current daily Christmas deal. New link - a couple items down the list. |
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Quoted: Yeah, they are just having daily deals for a while. That one expired. I can't seem to find them on the site anymore, but they were definitely up that day. I'll go ahead and remove the link. I got offered a pallet of those fuzes for 33k dollars. I turned it down because I'd just bought 4 pallets of 40mm ammo.  |
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Just in case anyone is interested found them listed at the normal price under miscellaneous parts. Link in op. Very cool, the price is a bit steep at $12 a piece for effectively a firecracker. Meh - 'cool' I guess?! I agree that it is effectively a SMALL firecracker! The M228 uses 'flash powder' in the 'detonator'. http://www.pica.army.mil/pmccs/combatmunitions/grenades/training/m228fuze.html I guess if you have never used these, it would be tempting. Not to be a snob, but - no thanks. I'd rather buy a case of beer for 12 bucks. ~Will |
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Meh - 'cool' I guess?! I agree that it is effectively a SMALL firecracker! The M228 uses 'flash powder' in the 'detonator'. http://www.pica.army.mil/pmccs/combatmunitions/grenades/training/m228fuze.html I guess if you have never used these, it would be tempting. Not to be a snob, but - no thanks. I'd rather buy a case of beer for 12 bucks. ~Will Quoted:
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Just in case anyone is interested found them listed at the normal price under miscellaneous parts. Link in op. Very cool, the price is a bit steep at $12 a piece for effectively a firecracker. Meh - 'cool' I guess?! I agree that it is effectively a SMALL firecracker! The M228 uses 'flash powder' in the 'detonator'. http://www.pica.army.mil/pmccs/combatmunitions/grenades/training/m228fuze.html I guess if you have never used these, it would be tempting. Not to be a snob, but - no thanks. I'd rather buy a case of beer for 12 bucks. ~Will Without a specific use for them, yeah they are very expensive firecrackers. I, however, want some for the building and testing of my XM67A1 frag grenade that I got a form 1 for. I just like the reliability of factory-built fuzes. |
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Without a specific use for them, yeah they are very expensive firecrackers. I, however, want some for the building and testing of my XM67A1 frag grenade that I got a form 1 for. I just like the reliability of factory-built fuzes. Quoted:
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Just in case anyone is interested found them listed at the normal price under miscellaneous parts. Link in op. Very cool, the price is a bit steep at $12 a piece for effectively a firecracker. Meh - 'cool' I guess?! I agree that it is effectively a SMALL firecracker! The M228 uses 'flash powder' in the 'detonator'. http://www.pica.army.mil/pmccs/combatmunitions/grenades/training/m228fuze.html I guess if you have never used these, it would be tempting. Not to be a snob, but - no thanks. I'd rather buy a case of beer for 12 bucks. ~Will Without a specific use for them, yeah they are very expensive firecrackers. I, however, want some for the building and testing of my XM67A1 frag grenade that I got a form 1 for. I just like the reliability of factory-built fuzes. I understand the work you have done - but - you are going to put a low explosive 'fuze' / 'cap' into a high explosive matrix? Or is it going to be a low explosive matrix that you are putting this 'fuze' into? They aren't number 8 or Military blasting caps on the end of these fuzes. Hence they aren't high explosive regulated. They are pyrotechnics. It could be modified & improvised, but, save $12 and improvise the whole kit & ka-boodle from an expended fuze. I would really like to see what you have done with your project but the site isn't allowing anymore new users... I get paid to do this stuff, and covered by the US Gov & workmans comp incase it doesn't go so well ! ~Will |
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Quoted: I understand the work you have done - but - you are going to put a low explosive 'fuze' / 'cap' into a high explosive matrix? Or is it going to be a low explosive matrix that you are putting this 'fuze' into? They aren't number 8 or Military blasting caps on the end of these fuzes. Hence they aren't high explosive regulated. They are pyrotechnics. It could be modified & improvised, but, save $12 and improvise the whole kit & ka-boodle from an expended fuze. I would really like to see what you have done with your project but the site isn't allowing anymore new users... I get paid to do this stuff, and covered by the US Gov & workmans comp incase it doesn't go so well ! ~Will Quoted: Quoted: Without a specific use for them, yeah they are very expensive firecrackers. I, however, want some for the building and testing of my XM67A1 frag grenade that I got a form 1 for. I just like the reliability of factory-built fuzes. I understand the work you have done - but - you are going to put a low explosive 'fuze' / 'cap' into a high explosive matrix? Or is it going to be a low explosive matrix that you are putting this 'fuze' into? They aren't number 8 or Military blasting caps on the end of these fuzes. Hence they aren't high explosive regulated. They are pyrotechnics. It could be modified & improvised, but, save $12 and improvise the whole kit & ka-boodle from an expended fuze. I would really like to see what you have done with your project but the site isn't allowing anymore new users... I get paid to do this stuff, and covered by the US Gov & workmans comp incase it doesn't go so well ! ~Will Why not a double or triple base smokeless powder vice HE? It worked for the MKII grenades during WWII... |
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A double base or triple base IS a High-Explosive. Density is a factor though. The BATFE knows it too.
A low explosive initiator or 'blasting cap' doesn't detonate a high-explosive charge or 'matrix'. Instead it will burn, creating a mechanical explosion, and NOT a HIGH ORDER DETONATION. ~Will |
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I understand the work you have done - but - you are going to put a low explosive 'fuze' / 'cap' into a high explosive matrix? Or is it going to be a low explosive matrix that you are putting this 'fuze' into? They aren't number 8 or Military blasting caps on the end of these fuzes. Hence they aren't high explosive regulated. They are pyrotechnics. It could be modified & improvised, but, save $12 and improvise the whole kit & ka-boodle from an expended fuze. I would really like to see what you have done with your project but the site isn't allowing anymore new users... I get paid to do this stuff, and covered by the US Gov & workmans comp incase it doesn't go so well ! ~Will Quoted:
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I understand the work you have done - but - you are going to put a low explosive 'fuze' / 'cap' into a high explosive matrix? Or is it going to be a low explosive matrix that you are putting this 'fuze' into? They aren't number 8 or Military blasting caps on the end of these fuzes. Hence they aren't high explosive regulated. They are pyrotechnics. It could be modified & improvised, but, save $12 and improvise the whole kit & ka-boodle from an expended fuze. I would really like to see what you have done with your project but the site isn't allowing anymore new users... I get paid to do this stuff, and covered by the US Gov & workmans comp incase it doesn't go so well ! ~Will Rather than starting from an expended fuze in which he'll then have to worry about getting the ignition & delay reliable and consistently working, I'd think he could just remove the existing black powder filled tube and replace it with a new one in which he's loaded a proper composition necessary to initiate whatever his filler charge is. I had used one of those small tubing cutters to cut the fuze below the crimp and then used a file to loosen up the part of the cap that is attached to the fuze stem. I gave him some empty det. tubes for those fuzes so he should have some of those available to use for that. |
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Rather than starting from an expended fuze in which he'll then have to worry about getting the ignition & delay reliable and consistently working, I'd think he could just remove the existing black powder filled tube and replace it with a new one in which he's loaded a proper composition necessary to initiate whatever his filler charge is. I had used one of those small tubing cutters to cut the fuze below the crimp and then used a file to loosen up the part of the cap that is attached to the fuze stem. I gave him some empty det. tubes for those fuzes so he should have some of those available to use for that. Quoted:
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I understand the work you have done - but - you are going to put a low explosive 'fuze' / 'cap' into a high explosive matrix? Or is it going to be a low explosive matrix that you are putting this 'fuze' into? They aren't number 8 or Military blasting caps on the end of these fuzes. Hence they aren't high explosive regulated. They are pyrotechnics. It could be modified & improvised, but, save $12 and improvise the whole kit & ka-boodle from an expended fuze. I would really like to see what you have done with your project but the site isn't allowing anymore new users... I get paid to do this stuff, and covered by the US Gov & workmans comp incase it doesn't go so well ! ~Will Rather than starting from an expended fuze in which he'll then have to worry about getting the ignition & delay reliable and consistently working, I'd think he could just remove the existing black powder filled tube and replace it with a new one in which he's loaded a proper composition necessary to initiate whatever his filler charge is. I had used one of those small tubing cutters to cut the fuze below the crimp and then used a file to loosen up the part of the cap that is attached to the fuze stem. I gave him some empty det. tubes for those fuzes so he should have some of those available to use for that. And thank you again for that. Right now I am focusing on physical construction of the body and properly casting frag matrix into a sphere. But, after I have a good handle on that, I can focus on filler and fuze assembly. I will still reload the expended fuze heads I have as an experiment, but for final use, I'm holding out for a factory fuze assembly. |
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And thank you again for that. Right now I am focusing on physical construction of the body and properly casting frag matrix into a sphere. But, after I have a good handle on that, I can focus on filler and fuze assembly. I will still reload the expended fuze heads I have as an experiment, but for final use, I'm holding out for a factory fuze assembly. Quoted:
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I understand the work you have done - but - you are going to put a low explosive 'fuze' / 'cap' into a high explosive matrix? Or is it going to be a low explosive matrix that you are putting this 'fuze' into? They aren't number 8 or Military blasting caps on the end of these fuzes. Hence they aren't high explosive regulated. They are pyrotechnics. It could be modified & improvised, but, save $12 and improvise the whole kit & ka-boodle from an expended fuze. I would really like to see what you have done with your project but the site isn't allowing anymore new users... I get paid to do this stuff, and covered by the US Gov & workmans comp incase it doesn't go so well ! ~Will Rather than starting from an expended fuze in which he'll then have to worry about getting the ignition & delay reliable and consistently working, I'd think he could just remove the existing black powder filled tube and replace it with a new one in which he's loaded a proper composition necessary to initiate whatever his filler charge is. I had used one of those small tubing cutters to cut the fuze below the crimp and then used a file to loosen up the part of the cap that is attached to the fuze stem. I gave him some empty det. tubes for those fuzes so he should have some of those available to use for that. And thank you again for that. Right now I am focusing on physical construction of the body and properly casting frag matrix into a sphere. But, after I have a good handle on that, I can focus on filler and fuze assembly. I will still reload the expended fuze heads I have as an experiment, but for final use, I'm holding out for a factory fuze assembly. Yeah, I've been following that build thread. You've sure got some creative ideas there and are definitely thinking outside of the box. 
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Quoted: A double base or triple base IS a High-Explosive. Density is a factor though. The BATFE knows it too. A low explosive initiator or 'blasting cap' doesn't detonate a high-explosive charge or 'matrix'. Instead it will burn, creating a mechanical explosion, and NOT a HIGH ORDER DETONATION. ~Will I'm confused- pardon my ignorance but I am a dumb redleg vice an EOD guy. Aren't there a number of double base shotgun and handgun powders out there available for reloaders? |
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Would these fuses work for reloaded smoke grenades? If so, I'm interested in a few if somebody buys a load of them. Sucks they don't sell them in twos or threes. I don't need 42 of them. The threads on these fuzes (M228) won't fit into a smoke grenade body. Those use an M201 fuze which uses a smaller thread. Also, the M228's "explode" and I don't think that will be sufficient to ignite a smoke mixture. That is what the M201 fuzes do, they're an igniter type of fuze. |
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I bought some years ago from Skylighter, but I see they are out of stock on most of their smokes. Perhaps Firefox? I believe I bought some dyes from them, and they worked nice too. Purple haze is the best IMO. I love their "ninja smoke" compositions. They work nice for a "burst" mix for 40MM items. GROG
Firefox smoke |
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The threads on these fuzes (M228) won't fit into a smoke grenade body. Those use an M201 fuze which uses a smaller thread. Also, the M228's "explode" and I don't think that will be sufficient to ignite a smoke mixture. That is what the M201 fuzes do, they're an igniter type of fuze. Quoted:
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Would these fuses work for reloaded smoke grenades? If so, I'm interested in a few if somebody buys a load of them. Sucks they don't sell them in twos or threes. I don't need 42 of them. The threads on these fuzes (M228) won't fit into a smoke grenade body. Those use an M201 fuze which uses a smaller thread. Also, the M228's "explode" and I don't think that will be sufficient to ignite a smoke mixture. That is what the M201 fuzes do, they're an igniter type of fuze. So, because I truly have no idea, exactly what are these fuses good for? |
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Would these fuses work for reloaded smoke grenades? If so, I'm interested in a few if somebody buys a load of them. Sucks they don't sell them in twos or threes. I don't need 42 of them. The threads on these fuzes (M228) won't fit into a smoke grenade body. Those use an M201 fuze which uses a smaller thread. Also, the M228's "explode" and I don't think that will be sufficient to ignite a smoke mixture. That is what the M201 fuzes do, they're an igniter type of fuze. So, because I truly have no idea, exactly what are these fuses good for? They are a good start for building a Form 1 approved registered destructive device! |
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