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Posted: 10/14/2008 6:18:50 PM EDT
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I've been contemplating getting a Spikes Havoc 37mm launcher and registering it as a DD. Has anyone loaded up any buckshot loads in 37mm? What are your experinces with them? I'm thinking in terms of a 2 3/4" power or lighter, with more 00 buck. Thanks in advance. Luckystrike 
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| why not jsut get a real 203? the components would be a bit easier to obtain. for example you can reuse m791 practice casings and m60joe.com sells practice bases and windscreens so you could then loadthem up with what ever you want. and it shouldnt be too hard to take apart an origional buckshot round to make a mold for the sabots so you cna make your own buck shot rounds. |
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why not jsut get a real 203? the components would be a bit easier to obtain. for example you can reuse m791 practice casings and m60joe.com sells practice bases and windscreens so you could then loadthem up with what ever you want. and it shouldnt be too hard to take apart an origional buckshot round to make a mold for the sabots so you cna make your own buck shot rounds. Even with the tax stamp a well built 37MM launcher is going to cost 3 times less than a 40MM. The M781 is designed to use chalk and if filled with buckshot would be way to heavy and likely not travel with enough velocity to do much damage. Plus the M781 is also designed to be used with the M212 nylon hulls only and will not fit in a M118 hull. The buckshot sabot used in the M576 does not hold any more shot than a 12ga shell. Plus none of the above rounds will work in a 37MM and are extremely expensive to purchase. The zinc pushers and nose cones are just about the least expensive way to shoot 40MM. I build molds for 40MM and 37MM and can produce projectiles for about $0.50 each. The easiest way to make a 37MM buckshot round is to load the lift charge, use a pusher wad and then use a film can as a shot cup. Depending on how much shot you want to use, start by cutting the film can to the height then slice the side wall down to the base in 4 to 6 spots equally spaced around the film can. Fill the film can with shot then cap it off with a cardboard or heavy paper wad then seal it up with a small bead of white glue. I was not trying to step on your toes by quoting you, but there are plenty of reasons to DD a 37MM. Money being a big factor. |
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Mike's stated method for making 37mm buckshot rounds is exactly how I make my Flaschette rounds and they work perfectly. The only difference is that I substitute steel Flaschettes for the buckshot. I get about 150 of the 1" finned, steel darts in a cut down film can. My Flaschette rounds will blow a 3" hole completely through 3/4" plywood at about 30' and the remaining darts which do not go through will stick in the plywood in a 2' pattern. Pretty devistating.
MadDog 
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Mike's stated method for making 37mm buckshot rounds is exactly how I make my Flaschette rounds and they work perfectly. The only difference is that I substitute steel Flaschettes for the buckshot. I get about 150 of the 1" finned, steel darts in a cut down film can. My Flaschette rounds will blow a 3" hole completely through 3/4" plywood at about 30' and the remaining darts which do not go through will stick in the plywood in a 2' pattern. Pretty devistating. MadDog Yep, my 37 is an RPB model but I use Mike's method. I've also loaded my kids marbles, bb's and other wacky stuff. It and my beer can mortar are always the hit of the day since they are novelty. To the OP: Mike is a great source of info as well as quality molds. (Mike, been meaning to call you back... sorry  )
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I make alot of 37and 40MM stuff.
Adapters in whatever Gauge you want 10, 12, 20, 410, and 15MM for those new bird bangers/screamers. (If 40MM is wanted in 12 or 20 contact Destiny. She has some of the nicest adapters around and need all the sales she can get. PM me and I can get you in touch with her.) I make rubber molds to cast your own projectiles in 37 and 40MM. I also make 37 and 40MM hulls from M169 hulls. I also make M118 hulls reloadable. I custom paint weapons. Face to Face only right now untill my FFL is approved. Make paint mask and decals in about whatever design you might need. I don't pretend to know it all and I am not trying to advertise my stuff all over the place, but if anyone needs any help feel free to ask. If I can help I will. |
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Mike,
I just ordered a case of chalk rounds from Clydes and wondering if those are reloadable? I have a 12 and 20 guage adapter that I picked up from Destiny. Very nice. If have been checking on flares but they are getting scarce. Trying to pick up everything on my list before the end of the year. Tom |
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Mike, I just ordered a case of chalk rounds from Clydes and wondering if those are reloadable? I have a 12 and 20 guage adapter that I picked up from Destiny. Very nice. If have been checking on flares but they are getting scarce. Trying to pick up everything on my list before the end of the year. Tom Yes the M781 rounds are reloadable. You need to pick up the zinc pushers after they are fired. Knock out the primer and reprime with a small pistol primer, reload with pistol powder. Your going to have to test how much powder to use but start light around 3.5gn and work up from there. Then use a heavy paper or card board wad to cover the powder and seal it with a little bit of white glue. Push the zinc pusher back into the hull. Mr.40MM sells new blue windshields, fill them line chalk from the hardware store, and glue the windshield on to the zinc pusher. You might have to clean up the pusher with a file on the driving bands because the rifling will make some heavy marks in them. If you want to get into all the pyro side of it pick up some fireworks books. Its just a fancy way of launching fireworks anyway. Hope that helped. |
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Maybe that will help give you a visual on reloading the M781. The zinc pusher goes however far the projectile is fired. It is glued to the blue nose cone and is actually what makes the projectile have enough mass to simulate an HE or HEDP projectile trajectory. |
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