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12/31/2016 11:25:50 PM EDT
Anyone have a homemade can that works as well as a commercial can. Is it possible to manufacture a homemade suppressor that is as quiet as the top brands in the market?
12/31/2016 11:40:45 PM EDT
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Absolutely. Moreso if you know how to run a lathe. Just look at examples in the build it yourself forum.
12/31/2016 11:42:16 PM EDT
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With the major form 1 parts makers in the business now it is definitely easy to copy a commercial suppressor's performance. The trade offs are baffle material for the exotic type of stuff like stellite or inconel, and the suppressor mounts (direct thread, YHM, and Griffin taper are the most common). With form 1 times bordering form 4 times the benefit of a faster suppressor is gone. You may come out a little cheaper with a form 1.
1/1/2017 1:49:11 AM EDT
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Anyone have a homemade can that works as well as a commercial can. Is it possible to manufacture a homemade suppressor that is as quiet as the top brands in the market?
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I made six at the same time. Two sets of 7", 8" and 9"...one with SS tubes and the other with Ti. Basic formed FP baffles. The Ti baffles had a couple spacers, while the SS were packed full of FPs.

Considering this is about as basic as you get, you could obviously do better with some of the "storage cups" that are available, or do it yourself if you're skilled on a lathe. Here's how mine performed against a couple of my commercial cans.





(Metering results courtesy of a trip I made to visit Mike & Henry at Rugged...and Mike did think with a couple hundred rounds of ammo I could drop several more dB just by playing with the spacing of the baffles)
1/1/2017 4:21:17 PM EDT
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Any idea how this will change if the HPA passes?   Specifically for home made suppressors?
1/1/2017 7:10:09 PM EDT
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Any idea how this will change if the HPA passes?   Specifically for home made suppressors?
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Assuming they'd be treated the same as 80% lowers, you ought to be able to make whatever you want.

I could definitely see upgrading the internals on all mine when it goes into effect.
1/1/2017 9:58:52 PM EDT
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Good info bigwaylon. Do you have numbers on any other cans? If you were to upgrade the internals, would you try to get stellite, stainless steel, or any other unobtanium and what companies sell upgraded baffles?
1/1/2017 10:36:50 PM EDT
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Good info bigwaylon. Do you have numbers on any other cans? If you were to upgrade the internals, would you try to get stellite, stainless steel, or any other unobtanium and what companies sell upgraded baffles?
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All I have are what I posted. Mine vs SiCo & YHM. Same host on the same day.

I'd probably just go with SS or Ti cones, maybe even radial cones. I'd just use a local machinist here that does stuff for me.

There are some SOTs that will recore a can. There are also quite a few options for 80% "baffles" (often sold as "storage cups").
1/2/2017 12:42:19 AM EDT
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I guess if you can do it from home, why go super duper expensive on the baffles (material wise)?  Make some extras and replace the one that erodes.  Or rotate the,  

If HPA goes through.
1/3/2017 7:38:51 AM EDT
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Quoted:Assuming they'd be treated the same as 80% lowers, you ought to be able to make whatever you want.

I could definitely see upgrading the internals on all mine when it goes into effect.
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If the HPA goes through the ATF is going to be flooded with Form 1 refund requests. You know, for the cans that were never built.
1/3/2017 8:12:44 AM EDT
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Homemade is fun to make, but I can't compete with commercial silencers.
1/3/2017 9:22:15 AM EDT
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If the HPA goes through the ATF is going to be flooded with Form 1 refund requests. You know, for the cans that were never built.
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I have one of those. Approved 1/13/16, but didn't really need it...so I've never even started on it.
1/3/2017 1:16:32 PM EDT
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A lot of these form 1 home made ones are badass. Some look very nice and perform very nice.  If the wait on NFA wasn't so long I would have started a business (as an investor) and hired some people to crank them out.
1/3/2017 2:25:18 PM EDT
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Homemade is fun to make, but I can't compete with commercial silencers.
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Much like most things home built.  It's a labor of fun and love.
1/3/2017 3:39:24 PM EDT
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I made six at the same time. Two sets of 7", 8" and 9"...one with SS tubes and the other with Ti. Basic formed FP baffles. The Ti baffles had a couple spacers, while the SS were packed full of FPs.

Considering this is about as basic as you get, you could obviously do better with some of the "storage cups" that are available, or do it yourself if you're skilled on a lathe. Here's how mine performed against a couple of my commercial cans.

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/thegreghorton/Mobile%20Uploads/6CAFCC73-1CD4-4F73-BD7E-AC01333B2C5C_zpsegins7cb.png

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/thegreghorton/Mobile%20Uploads/2A216175-CB77-4DBE-9522-A1976C3ED997_zpsydd9pjih.png

(Metering results courtesy of a trip I made to visit Mike & Henry at Rugged...and Mike did think with a couple hundred rounds of ammo I could drop several more dB just by playing with the spacing of the baffles)
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Nice chart BW
1/5/2017 10:51:45 PM EDT
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If the HPA goes through the ATF is going to be flooded with Form 1 refund requests. You know, for the cans that were never built.
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HPA could have some, or no back dated refund allowance for forms already approved.  Forms not yet approved "should" be able to get a full refund.  
Hopefully, there are 9 Democrats who want more to be reelected in two years than they want to kiss C. Schumer's ring.
1/6/2017 8:50:43 AM EDT
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Quoted:HPA could have some, or no back dated refund allowance for forms already approved.  Forms not yet approved "should" be able to get a full refund.  
Hopefully, there are 9 Democrats who want more to be reelected in two years than they want to kiss C. Schumer's ring.
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Form 1s that are never built can ALWAYS be refunded, unlike Form 4s. I've got a stack of stamps for SBRing 80% lowers I don't even own yet. It's money in the bank until I finish the 80%, make a pistol-configured build, verify that it functions completely and reliably, and decide to apply a stamp to make it an SBR.
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