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Posted: 4/4/2016 12:41:49 PM EDT
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Can I get the signature for suppressor purchase, before buying the suppressor?
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You have to provide the cleo with a completed form. .....,.so if your dealer wants to give you a serial # without paying for it....that up to them. Quoted:
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Can I get the signature for suppressor purchase, before buying the suppressor? You have to provide the cleo with a completed form. .....,.so if your dealer wants to give you a serial # without paying for it....that up to them. So, I could buy a suppressor to have my CLEO say "nope, won't sign it." How do I handle this possibility? |
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Is it appropriate to ask, before I buy, if the CLEO will sign it? Quoted:
Is it appropriate to ask, before I buy, if the CLEO will sign it? Absolutely. Call 'em up, stop by, whatever...will obviously depend on the size of the department. But, the list goes way beyond your Sheriff or Police Chief. Quoted:
If you told your location others might be able to tell you if CLEO will sign or not. Here in NC they have to sign within a specific time as long as you pass all the hoops. And yet, some are still refusing to sign. Just don't know if anybody has taken them to court yet (as the "shall sign" statute allows). |
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Your local SOT should certainly know if the CLEO is suppressor friendly.
If he doesn't, I'd wonder if he should get my business. But, maybe you're just starting, are looking at the online sellers, and haven't found a local SOT yet. So... As suggested, just call/walk in, and ask if the CLEO will sign the forms. Mine will sign for MG's, but not for Suppressors. Go figure. Lots of trusts in use around here. |
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So, I could buy a suppressor to have my CLEO say "nope, won't sign it." How do I handle this possibility? Quoted:
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Can I get the signature for suppressor purchase, before buying the suppressor? You have to provide the cleo with a completed form. .....,.so if your dealer wants to give you a serial # without paying for it....that up to them. So, I could buy a suppressor to have my CLEO say "nope, won't sign it." How do I handle this possibility? First...i would call and ask. If they say yes, purchase and proceed. If they say no you can still purchase and set up a trust, or find somebody else qualified to sign....or wait until July when that persons opinion on suppressors will not mean crap. |
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First...i would call and ask. If they say yes, purchase and proceed. If they say no you can still purchase and set up a trust, or find somebody else qualified to sign....or wait until July when that persons opinion on suppressors will not mean crap. Quoted:
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Can I get the signature for suppressor purchase, before buying the suppressor? You have to provide the cleo with a completed form. .....,.so if your dealer wants to give you a serial # without paying for it....that up to them. So, I could buy a suppressor to have my CLEO say "nope, won't sign it." How do I handle this possibility? First...i would call and ask. If they say yes, purchase and proceed. If they say no you can still purchase and set up a trust, or find somebody else qualified to sign....or wait until July when that persons opinion on suppressors will not mean crap. Form 4 is the one I need for suppressors, right? |
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Form 4 is the one I need for suppressors, right? Form 4 is for transferring an existing NFA item. Form 1 is for making (not manufacturing) & registering a new NFA item. What that item is doesn't decide which form you use. That being said, if you're buying a suppressor, then Form 4 is correct. |
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What an ass. Id love to hear this persons reasoning. Quoted:
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Mine will sign for MG's, but not for Suppressors. Go figure. What an ass. Id love to hear this persons reasoning. Reason and reasoning are mutually exclusive in this case. His reason is: He doesn't want to. Reasoning (See: thinking) would eliminate any reason to refuse. |
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Reason and reasoning are mutually exclusive in this case. His reason is: He doesn't want to. Reasoning (See: thinking) would eliminate any reason to refuse. Quoted:
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Mine will sign for MG's, but not for Suppressors. Go figure. What an ass. Id love to hear this persons reasoning. Reason and reasoning are mutually exclusive in this case. His reason is: He doesn't want to. Reasoning (See: thinking) would eliminate any reason to refuse. So he is the "silencers are only for assassins and poachers" person, and clearly you cannot be trusted to not be one of those. |
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That is up to the CLEO. Some will sign a near blank form, some want it all filled out. Quoted:
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Can I get the signature for suppressor purchase, before buying the suppressor? That is up to the CLEO. Some will sign a near blank form, some want it all filled out. +1 mine has signed any forms I have taken although I have always at least had the type of firearm (silencer, SBR, etc.) and all my personal info filled out I have had blank model, manufacturer, serial number, lengths, or combinations there of signed off no questions asked |
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Absolutely. Call 'em up, stop by, whatever...will obviously depend on the size of the department. But, the list goes way beyond your Sheriff or Police Chief. And yet, some are still refusing to sign. Just don't know if anybody has taken them to court yet (as the "shall sign" statute allows). Quoted:
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Is it appropriate to ask, before I buy, if the CLEO will sign it? Absolutely. Call 'em up, stop by, whatever...will obviously depend on the size of the department. But, the list goes way beyond your Sheriff or Police Chief. Quoted:
If you told your location others might be able to tell you if CLEO will sign or not. Here in NC they have to sign within a specific time as long as you pass all the hoops. And yet, some are still refusing to sign. Just don't know if anybody has taken them to court yet (as the "shall sign" statute allows). Out of curiosity do you know where BigWaylon? I know that here in Forsyth County CLEO used to not sign anything but I don't know now. I guess after July if I haven't got all the NFA items I want I will find out. |
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Out of curiosity do you know where BigWaylon? I know that here in Forsyth County CLEO used to not sign anything but I don't know now. I guess after July if I haven't got all the NFA items I want I will find out. Pretty sure Wake is on the short list at least for Sheriff. Wouldn't surprise me if Orange and/or Durham are as well. I've never needed to try, but my understanding is Meck is now at least a possibility. |
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Out of curiosity do you know where BigWaylon? I know that here in Forsyth County CLEO used to not sign anything but I don't know now. I guess after July if I haven't got all the NFA items I want I will find out. Quoted:
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Is it appropriate to ask, before I buy, if the CLEO will sign it? Absolutely. Call 'em up, stop by, whatever...will obviously depend on the size of the department. But, the list goes way beyond your Sheriff or Police Chief. Quoted:
If you told your location others might be able to tell you if CLEO will sign or not. Here in NC they have to sign within a specific time as long as you pass all the hoops. And yet, some are still refusing to sign. Just don't know if anybody has taken them to court yet (as the "shall sign" statute allows). Out of curiosity do you know where BigWaylon? I know that here in Forsyth County CLEO used to not sign anything but I don't know now. I guess after July if I haven't got all the NFA items I want I will find out. CLEO sig goes away after July so you won't find out and it won't matter either way - Just Sayin! |
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CLEO sig goes away after July so you won't find out and it won't matter either way - Just Sayin! Yeah...we know it. The issue is our AG was so anti-gun he tried to force all CLEO to not sign. Heck, we still have Pistol Purchase Permits which have to be used to buy handguns. NC passed "shall sign" legislation last year, and it'll end up being in effect for less than 12 months by the time it won't matter any more. So, lots of people are just wanting to force the antis into signing a form while they can. 
The legislation basically says they have to sign within 15 days unless there's a legal reason the person shouldn't own the firearm, and if they refuse they're taken to court where they're forced to sign and pay court costs. In some areas they're still passing the buck with the COP and Sheriff each pointing to the other saying they're the CLEO. |
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Yeah...we know it. The issue is our AG was so anti-gun he tried to force all CLEO to not sign. Heck, we still have Pistol Purchase Permits which have to be used to buy handguns. NC passed "shall sign" legislation last year, and it'll end up being in effect for less than 12 months by the time it won't matter any more. So, lots of people are just wanting to force the antis into signing a form while they can.
The legislation basically says they have to sign within 15 days unless there's a legal reason the person shouldn't own the firearm, and if they refuse they're taken to court where they're forced to sign and pay court costs. In some areas they're still passing the buck with the COP and Sheriff each pointing to the other saying they're the CLEO. Quoted:
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CLEO sig goes away after July so you won't find out and it won't matter either way - Just Sayin! Yeah...we know it. The issue is our AG was so anti-gun he tried to force all CLEO to not sign. Heck, we still have Pistol Purchase Permits which have to be used to buy handguns. NC passed "shall sign" legislation last year, and it'll end up being in effect for less than 12 months by the time it won't matter any more. So, lots of people are just wanting to force the antis into signing a form while they can.
The legislation basically says they have to sign within 15 days unless there's a legal reason the person shouldn't own the firearm, and if they refuse they're taken to court where they're forced to sign and pay court costs. In some areas they're still passing the buck with the COP and Sheriff each pointing to the other saying they're the CLEO. Nothing like pissing away tax money on principle - seems like running them out of office might be a better use of their time and money 
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