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Posted: 2/28/2016 8:01:46 PM EDT
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Patriot brown? Those LWRC's are sick. 
Also if you want to silent the sproingy action noise get yourself a JP silent capture spring kit. It makes a considerable difference. Patriot brown indeed. I'm really enjoying it, they make a good rifle. I'll look into the spring but for now I'm really enjoying it. |
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This. Suppressor = silencer though Quoted:
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Patriot brown? Those LWRC's are sick.
Also if you want to silent the sproingy action noise get yourself a JP silent capture spring kit. It makes a considerable difference. This. Suppressor = silencer though Sure, I understand they're interchangeable I just mean these cans don't 100% silence your gun, they just suppress it. |
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I have the same can. It does a hell of a job with the muzzle noise, but you just can't do much to a supersonic bullet. Just wait til you shoot a suppressed 22 or 45. They make a big difference. Yeah which is understandable. I wasn't expecting silence. lol. I do have an osprey in .45. Just waiting to find a piston for a .40 for my glock along with a threaded barrel before I can shoot it. |
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No suppressor can do anything about the supersonic crack of the bullet, which is a large part of the noise equation. You're chasing unicorns if you believe otherwise. Downrange is a different story, as the suppression of the muzzle blast helps to de-localize the sound of the shot. Shoot subsonic rounds and see what a suppressor really can do. (Don't try that with 5.56 however...)  |
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Yep, suppressors in real life are nothing like in the movies. They have nothing to do with being ninja silent.
What it does do is reduce the noise to near hearing safe levels, reduces felt concussion, reduces recoil, increases velocity, reduces muzzle flash, etc... |
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Quoted: Yep, suppressors in real life are nothing like in the movies. They have nothing to do with being ninja silent. What it does do is reduce the noise to near hearing safe levels, reduces felt concussion, reduces recoil, increases velocity, reduces muzzle flash, etc... How do they increase velocity? |
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How do they increase velocity? It's not by much...but it's one of those physics/fluid dynamics deals where the build up of gases in the tube pushes the projectile out faster as it goes by. You can search the net for "freebore boost". Basically, you have an extended barrel, so a longer time to accelerate the bullet, and don't have the friction of the barrel slowing it down at all. |
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Yep, suppressors in real life are nothing like in the movies. They have nothing to do with being ninja silent. What it does do is reduce the noise to near hearing safe levels, reduces felt concussion, reduces recoil, increases velocity, reduces muzzle flash, etc... How come in video games suppressors always reduce effective range then? 
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How come in video games suppressors always reduce effective range then? Quoted:
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Yep, suppressors in real life are nothing like in the movies. They have nothing to do with being ninja silent. What it does do is reduce the noise to near hearing safe levels, reduces felt concussion, reduces recoil, increases velocity, reduces muzzle flash, etc... How come in video games suppressors always reduce effective range then? Balance purposes...Or some games act like you are using subsonic ammo to stay even quieter. |
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Quoted: It's not by much...but it's one of those physics/fluid dynamics deals where the build up of gases in the tube pushes the projectile out faster as it goes by. You can search the net for "freebore boost". Basically, you have an extended barrel, so a longer time to accelerate the bullet, and don't have the friction of the barrel slowing it down at all. Quoted: Quoted: How do they increase velocity? It's not by much...but it's one of those physics/fluid dynamics deals where the build up of gases in the tube pushes the projectile out faster as it goes by. You can search the net for "freebore boost". Basically, you have an extended barrel, so a longer time to accelerate the bullet, and don't have the friction of the barrel slowing it down at all. Interesting. It seems to me that having gas pushing on the back of an unsupported bullet would induce yaw and negatively affect accuracy. Maybe the effect is as small as the effect on velocity. |
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Interesting. It seems to me that having gas pushing on the back of an unsupported bullet would induce yaw and negatively affect accuracy. Maybe the effect is as small as the effect on velocity. Quoted:
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How do they increase velocity? It's not by much...but it's one of those physics/fluid dynamics deals where the build up of gases in the tube pushes the projectile out faster as it goes by. You can search the net for "freebore boost". Basically, you have an extended barrel, so a longer time to accelerate the bullet, and don't have the friction of the barrel slowing it down at all. Interesting. It seems to me that having gas pushing on the back of an unsupported bullet would induce yaw and negatively affect accuracy. Maybe the effect is as small as the effect on velocity. In a crappily made baffle stack, ya |
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It's not by much... Quoted:
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How do they increase velocity? It's not by much... That's what I've seen over two different AR15s. With a 16" DD LW upper and a Thunder Beast Ultra 7, I only got a 20 fps increase with 75gr Hornady BTHP handloads. They velocity went from 2604 to 2624 fps. Curiously though, with a longer can, the TBAC Ultra 9, on a 20" RRA and the same 75gr handloads, my velocity only increased 5 fps, from 2778 to 2783 fps. Velocities were measured with a Magnetospeed V3. |
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Yeah which is understandable. I wasn't expecting silence. lol. I do have an osprey in .45. Just waiting to find a piston for a .40 for my glock along with a threaded barrel before I can shoot it. Quoted:
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I have the same can. It does a hell of a job with the muzzle noise, but you just can't do much to a supersonic bullet. Just wait til you shoot a suppressed 22 or 45. They make a big difference. Yeah which is understandable. I wasn't expecting silence. lol. I do have an osprey in .45. Just waiting to find a piston for a .40 for my glock along with a threaded barrel before I can shoot it. You're not doing it right. You get the piston, barrel, etc. while you're waiting on the form 4. That way, when the stamp comes in, you run out and pick up the can, then scurry home and shoot!
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You're not doing it right. You get the piston, barrel, etc. while you're waiting on the form 4. That way, when the stamp comes in, you run out and pick up the can, then scurry home and shoot! Quoted:
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I have the same can. It does a hell of a job with the muzzle noise, but you just can't do much to a supersonic bullet. Just wait til you shoot a suppressed 22 or 45. They make a big difference. Yeah which is understandable. I wasn't expecting silence. lol. I do have an osprey in .45. Just waiting to find a piston for a .40 for my glock along with a threaded barrel before I can shoot it. You're not doing it right. You get the piston, barrel, etc. while you're waiting on the form 4. That way, when the stamp comes in, you run out and pick up the can, then scurry home and shoot! I know, I failed so hard. The longer and longer I waited I kept telling myself I'd have plenty of time to pick them up. Now I can't find the piston in stock anywhere nor can I find the correct flash hider for my other ar to shoot with the suppressor. Plus I just found out yesterday that my osprey didn't even come with a piston. 
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No suppressor can do anything about the supersonic crack of the bullet, which is a large part of the noise equation. You're chasing unicorns if you believe otherwise. Downrange is a different story, as the suppression of the muzzle blast helps to de-localize the sound of the shot. Shoot subsonic rounds and see what a suppressor really can do. (Don't try that with 5.56 however...)
Load up a couple of 5.56 or 300bo over 5 grains Trailboss w/ any suppressor then report back.....damn quiet rounds |
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What?! Mine came with one, and I got to pick which one. Quoted:
Plus I just found out yesterday that my osprey didn't even come with a piston. What?! Mine came with one, and I got to pick which one. All depends. I bought two that did, one that didn't (by choice). |
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What?! Mine came with one, and I got to pick which one. Quoted:
Plus I just found out yesterday that my osprey didn't even come with a piston. What?! Mine came with one, and I got to pick which one. Lucky you. I paid more for mine than I could somewhere else partially to support a local gun store and partially because I was a noob. Either way, I feel like it should have come with one but oh well. |
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Nice OP, I love my M4-2000. Shot it today in fact. You made a solid choice. Thank man! I love it so much I'm considering picking up another one for another rifle. I've done a small amount of research into other cans and this one really seems like one of the best if not the best. |
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