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Posted: 12/13/2015 2:27:00 PM EDT
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I am on a mission to get the absolute quietest 22 setup available. I currently have a sparrow and a gemtech alpine that I use on my Savage FVSR, super quiet rig, but i am looking for something else to add to the collection. Have been looking at the Gemtech Mist integral and maybe adding it to a PWS summit actions, instead of keeping the 10/22 action. Anyone have a mist-22 or possibly the setup I am thinking, From the vids I have seen of it in action it seems like it would be quieter than my sparrow savage combo . Also it seems there are several different versions of the mist floating around, one with the port opening near the chamber , one with it further away and supposedly one with no port opening. I prob will mostly shoot subsonics anyway with it , but suppose it would be nice if it would keep most supersonic ammo subsonic , although I would assume it would still be louder than subs. Is the ported version really that much of a bitch to get clean and the tube off ? |
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Is an integral really going to be quieter than bolt, good muzzle can, and CCI Quiet? Not sure ? I know the CCI Quiets sound pretty damn good out of my savage , only issue is I am really looking for some more power and prefer to use rounds above the 1000fps mark like the CCI standard velocity pushing 1050+ instead of the 710fps or so from the quiets. Saw this vid comparing the mist with a screw on can, seems to be a big difference oops, sorry i tried to embed couldn't get it to work 
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Quoted: Not sure ? I know the CCI Quiets sound pretty damn good out of my savage , only issue is I am really looking for some more power and prefer to use rounds above the 1000fps mark like the CCI standard velocity pushing 1050+ instead of the 710fps or so from the quiets. Quoted: Quoted: Is an integral really going to be quieter than bolt, good muzzle can, and CCI Quiet? The ported mist doesnt get that dirty with a PWS, probably because it gets less rounds through it than a semi.
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Probably not, at least with my Savage and Spectre II. But OP should do it. I have two integral 10/22's and want more.The ported mist doesnt get that dirty with a PWS, probably because it gets less rounds through it than a semi. My PWS and Mist: Quoted:
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Is an integral really going to be quieter than bolt, good muzzle can, and CCI Quiet? My PWS and Mist: How do you like that Zeiss Conquest Rimfire? What height rings? I'm looking for an optic for my Summit I have on order. |
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Probably not, at least with my Savage and Spectre II. But OP should do it. I have two integral 10/22's and want more.The ported mist doesnt get that dirty with a PWS, probably because it gets less rounds through it than a semi. My PWS and Mist: Quoted:
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Is an integral really going to be quieter than bolt, good muzzle can, and CCI Quiet? My PWS and Mist: Sweet setup for sure, Tel me more about it . From the sounds of it yours, is ported ? has it kept reg ammo subsonic ? seems alot have had cleaning issues ? Hows the PWS action working out for you? any issues with it, accuracy ? seem to be out of stock everywhere I check to find one . Sorry lots of ?s , but this is exactly what I am trying to go for, love the clean look like a standard heavy barrel 10/22 and not a can hanging off the end. Michigan ( hope so by next season ) is close to getting maybe hunting with suppressors approved and looking to get a rig setup to pop some squirrels quietly, thats why I was considering the PWS summit action to have no action noise. Obviously a bolt gun could achieve all this, think i just need a excuse to add something different to my arsenal lol. |
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A lot of ported models are still out on dealers shelves. Anybody who has a strong preference should clarify which one they are buying. Quoted:
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Ported is the old version. Not offered anymore, but gemtech can port it for you if you understand the consciences. I will most likely be getting through silencershop . I just noticed they made overview vid of the mist-22 back in sept 25 , and it was a ported model . Wonder if this is the current version they have on hand also . Guess I need to decide ported or not, I think I read Gemtech will replace the ported with a non ported model if you want to swap out. Could be wrong here IDK |
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It's not a rimfire model, the standard 3-9 from Euro Optic. I really like it, the Titan stock gets me a consistent cheekweld so parallax hasn't been an issue. Zeiss glass is noticeably sharper than the optics on my other rimfires (makes sense because they are cheaper.) Zeiss glass is nice. I had that same scope years ago on a Kimber Montana. Took my black bear with it. After a search, looks like the rimfire version is no longer available. |
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Mine is ported. I haven't had any issue with cleaning due to the porting but if I did it all over again I would get a non-ported barrel (I believe Gemtech will plug the ports but it's not a big issue for me.) Occasionally bulk pack goes supersonic even with the porting so I shoot subsonic anyway. As for cleaning, the PWS System can be a bit finicky with extraction. The barrel needs to be headspaced correctly (this is so easy even a cave man can do it, no go gauge or special tools required.) The extractor needs to be cleaned pretty frequently (50 rounds,) this is as simple as wiping them and the chamber with a rag. I had trouble with it initially but now it runs like a top. You just need to be aware that it might not be as plug and play as a standard 10/22 receiver. I found my receiver at a gun show. My gun is every bit as accurate as my Savage, but I am not bullseye shooter. This setup is minute of whatever small animal I come across. I haven't shot them side by side but both are stupid quiet. The Mist certainly has a nice deeper tone, but I don't know that it actually meters quieter. If you are on the fence, BUY ONE. Integral .22lrs are just about the most fun you can have with your clothes on. I am sure somebody will come along this thread and shit all over intregal suppressors because the current screw-ons are just as quiet. But just remember, that guy probably moves his YHM Mite between all his hosts. Have another pic OP:  |
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Quoted: Zeiss glass is nice. I had that same scope years ago on a Kimber Montana. Took my black bear with it. After a search, looks like the rimfire version is no longer available. I would definately buy one again. For $300 its a nobrainer:http://www.eurooptic.com/zeiss-conquest-3-9x40-zplex-reticle-hunting-turrets-matte-black-5214609920.aspx |
I have two Gemtech Mists. One on a 10/22 and one on a 96/22.
The first one is the original version with the port closer to the chamber and its on the 10/22. The second one has the port about an 3/4 of an inch farther down the barrel and is on the 96/22. The second one has a spiral cut to the collar area between the barrel and suppressor that makes removal easier when heavily fouled. I would say that a Mist on a Ruger 96/22 shooting federal bulk back is basically just as quiet as my Savage Mark II TRR-SR with a SWR Warlock and Fiocchi Subsonic ammo. However, at some point its hard to really delineate because both are just a slight "poof" noise. There might be a slight edge to the Savage+Warlock but you are talking about a 22" barrel plus 5 inches of suppressor vs. 16" total for the Mist. The Savage is more quiet than the Mist+10/22 as there is the obvious action noise right by your head and some gas does escape out the action port. However the Mist+10/22 is noticeably quieter than my 10/22 SBR plus muzzle can, especially shooting supers/bulk pack. 
The Savage shooting supers is easily louder than both Mist equipped guns, especially to an observer. Three totally different guns for me. The Savage is a gun with a full sized 5-15X scope + bipod that is best shooting prone off a mat or bench and can consistently put tighter groups together and hit metal animal silloutte targets at 100+ yards with almost boring reliability. The 96/22 has a 3x Vortex Prism optic and excels at plinking beer cans and clay targets offhand inside 100 yards. The 10/22+Mist has an unmagnified red dot and is best for plinking offhand at targets at 50 yards or less but can obviously make up for misses with a larger volume of fire. I don't shoot the SBR 10/22 much anymore as the Mist equipped 10/22 is more enjoyable given its lower sound signature and that I can put regular old Federal bulk pack through it with no sonic crack. The 10/22 SBR I use my ever dwindling supply of Winchester Dynapoints that are subsonic and reliably cycle the action. Personally if you are going for an integral I would get the ported version. |
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I am debating the mist too. Is it a "novelty" suppressor? I like to shoot my 10/22 out to 100 yards and concerned this cuts down on range and accuracy. Thoughts? The barrel only looks to be 8-10 inches so wondering on accuracy.
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I am debating the mist too. Is it a "novelty" suppressor? I like to shoot my 10/22 out to 100 yards and concerned this cuts down on range and accuracy. Thoughts? The barrel only looks to be 8-10 inches so wondering on accuracy. How quiet would it be with standard ammunition and not ported? Overall barrel length doesn't really have much to do with accuracy as long as the rifling has a chance to get the bullet twisting and stabilized (i.e. obviously a 1" barrel will probably have some accuracy issues) The Mist barrel is plenty long to get the projo properly stabilized. Accuracy seemed really quite good when I initially sand-bagged the two Rugers for sighting in purposes. Somebody who has a Mist properly scoped up could probably give you a better idea on best group size than me. For me the guns are set up for different purposes and ranges. For example my Mist 10/22 is going to be harder to break clays at 100+ yards as the actual unmagnified red dot is going to be like ~5 MOA all by itself. At 100+ yards the dot (depending upon brightness setting) will basically make a clay pigeon disappear into its halo. However being unmagnified it excels at under 50yards as target acquisition is much faster given the almost unlimited FOV and ability to use both eyes. Conversely the Savage MK2 sucks at trying to shoot empty beer cans offhand at 35 yards with a 22" barrel and a 15x scope. Roughly speaking, projo range is a factor of grain weight, FPS, and ballistic coefficient. Supers running at 1200+ are going to have a longer range than subs running 1000fps. A Mist porting bulk pack supers down to 1000fps is going to have basically the same range as a non-ported barrel running dedicated subsonic ammo. A 40gr 22LR pill coming out of the end of the barrel at 1000fps is going to basically have the exact same range be it a ported Mist or a non-ported Savage (with subsonic ammo). A non-ported Mist is definitely going to be louder than a non-ported version running "standard" i.e. supersonic or trans-sonic ammo bulk pack ammo as the sonic crack is pretty loud. A non-ported Mist running subsonics is probably going to be pretty similar to a ported version running bulk pack supers. |
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I will most likely be getting through silencershop . I just noticed they made overview vid of the mist-22 back in sept 25 , and it was a ported model . Wonder if this is the current version they have on hand also . Guess I need to decide ported or not, I think I read Gemtech will replace the ported with a non ported model if you want to swap out. Could be wrong here IDK Quoted:
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Ported is the old version. Not offered anymore, but gemtech can port it for you if you understand the consciences. I will most likely be getting through silencershop . I just noticed they made overview vid of the mist-22 back in sept 25 , and it was a ported model . Wonder if this is the current version they have on hand also . Guess I need to decide ported or not, I think I read Gemtech will replace the ported with a non ported model if you want to swap out. Could be wrong here IDK If you buy from SilencerShop, when they email you your serial#, call/email Gemtech and they can tell you. I bought mine in May, from SS and Gemtech told me it was from the last batch of ported, so I dont know if Silencershop has sold through those and re-upped or not |
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If you buy from SilencerShop, when they email you your serial#, call/email Gemtech and they can tell you. I bought mine in May, from SS and Gemtech told me it was from the last batch of ported, so I dont know if Silencershop has sold through those and re-upped or not Quoted:
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Ported is the old version. Not offered anymore, but gemtech can port it for you if you understand the consciences. I will most likely be getting through silencershop . I just noticed they made overview vid of the mist-22 back in sept 25 , and it was a ported model . Wonder if this is the current version they have on hand also . Guess I need to decide ported or not, I think I read Gemtech will replace the ported with a non ported model if you want to swap out. Could be wrong here IDK If you buy from SilencerShop, when they email you your serial#, call/email Gemtech and they can tell you. I bought mine in May, from SS and Gemtech told me it was from the last batch of ported, so I dont know if Silencershop has sold through those and re-upped or not Thought about one in a Takedown version also, but am on the fence about the PWS summit action, and their actions doesn't work on a takedown I guess . Any issues for you with your ported version, not being able to get the tube off ? Just ordered one from SS, guess either way doesn't really matter to me, if its ported I will see how bad it fouls up on me and if it becomes a issue I guess I'll see if gemtech exchange it for the non ported version. Gotta love Silencershop, emailed me the Ser# within 5 min already , guess I'll email see what version it is. |
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Bought both the Mist and the Mist TD do cover my desire for integrals, fun setups... http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_7079_zpstvq1icmp.jpg What stock is that on the bottom? Looks like a Hogue but I don't see it on their site. |
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Overall barrel length doesn't really have much to do with accuracy as long as the rifling has a chance to get the bullet twisting and stabilized (i.e. obviously a 1" barrel will probably have some accuracy issues) The Mist barrel is plenty long to get the projo properly stabilized. Accuracy seemed really quite good when I initially sand-bagged the two Rugers for sighting in purposes. Somebody who has a Mist properly scoped up could probably give you a better idea on best group size than me. For me the guns are set up for different purposes and ranges. For example my Mist 10/22 is going to be harder to break clays at 100+ yards as the actual unmagnified red dot is going to be like ~5 MOA all by itself. At 100+ yards the dot (depending upon brightness setting) will basically make a clay pigeon disappear into its halo. However being unmagnified it excels at under 50yards as target acquisition is much faster given the almost unlimited FOV and ability to use both eyes. Conversely the Savage MK2 sucks at trying to shoot empty beer cans offhand at 35 yards with a 22" barrel and a 15x scope. Roughly speaking, projo range is a factor of grain weight, FPS, and ballistic coefficient. Supers running at 1200+ are going to have a longer range than subs running 1000fps. A Mist porting bulk pack supers down to 1000fps is going to have basically the same range as a non-ported barrel running dedicated subsonic ammo. A 40gr 22LR pill coming out of the end of the barrel at 1000fps is going to basically have the exact same range be it a ported Mist or a non-ported Savage (with subsonic ammo). A non-ported Mist is definitely going to be louder than a non-ported version running "standard" i.e. supersonic or trans-sonic ammo bulk pack ammo as the sonic crack is pretty loud. A non-ported Mist running subsonics is probably going to be pretty similar to a ported version running bulk pack supers. Quoted:
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I am debating the mist too. Is it a "novelty" suppressor? I like to shoot my 10/22 out to 100 yards and concerned this cuts down on range and accuracy. Thoughts? The barrel only looks to be 8-10 inches so wondering on accuracy. How quiet would it be with standard ammunition and not ported? Overall barrel length doesn't really have much to do with accuracy as long as the rifling has a chance to get the bullet twisting and stabilized (i.e. obviously a 1" barrel will probably have some accuracy issues) The Mist barrel is plenty long to get the projo properly stabilized. Accuracy seemed really quite good when I initially sand-bagged the two Rugers for sighting in purposes. Somebody who has a Mist properly scoped up could probably give you a better idea on best group size than me. For me the guns are set up for different purposes and ranges. For example my Mist 10/22 is going to be harder to break clays at 100+ yards as the actual unmagnified red dot is going to be like ~5 MOA all by itself. At 100+ yards the dot (depending upon brightness setting) will basically make a clay pigeon disappear into its halo. However being unmagnified it excels at under 50yards as target acquisition is much faster given the almost unlimited FOV and ability to use both eyes. Conversely the Savage MK2 sucks at trying to shoot empty beer cans offhand at 35 yards with a 22" barrel and a 15x scope. Roughly speaking, projo range is a factor of grain weight, FPS, and ballistic coefficient. Supers running at 1200+ are going to have a longer range than subs running 1000fps. A Mist porting bulk pack supers down to 1000fps is going to have basically the same range as a non-ported barrel running dedicated subsonic ammo. A 40gr 22LR pill coming out of the end of the barrel at 1000fps is going to basically have the exact same range be it a ported Mist or a non-ported Savage (with subsonic ammo). A non-ported Mist is definitely going to be louder than a non-ported version running "standard" i.e. supersonic or trans-sonic ammo bulk pack ammo as the sonic crack is pretty loud. A non-ported Mist running subsonics is probably going to be pretty similar to a ported version running bulk pack supers. Thank you for the info. I am very new to suppressed 22. Last question, given that CCI quiets don't cycle in my stock 10/22 action, how would they or other subsonic ammo cycle in a suppressed semi auto? Would ported vs non ported make a difference in the cycling? |
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Thank you for the info. I am very new to suppressed 22. Last question, given that CCI quiets don't cycle in my stock 10/22 action, how would they or other subsonic ammo cycle in a suppressed semi auto? Would ported vs non ported make a difference in the cycling? CCI Quiet's are running around 700 fps and CCI Standard Velocity and other subsonic ammo that will cycle semi-auto actions are typically running around 1000 fps |
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Thank you for the info. I am very new to suppressed 22. Last question, given that CCI quiets don't cycle in my stock 10/22 action, how would they or other subsonic ammo cycle in a suppressed semi auto? Would ported vs non ported make a difference in the cycling? I have personally found subsonic ammo to be a touch bit finicky depending upon the brand and the barrel length. The longer the barrel length the better subs will cycle the action. I bought 2500rds of Fiocchi subs a couple years ago and it wouldnt cycle my 10/22 SBR and will only cycle a full length 10/22 sporadically. That Fiocchi is pretty much bolt action fodder now. Remington subs cycle a full length 10/22 just fine but I have found them to be a bit sketchy on my SBR 10/22. Dynapoints are not true subs and will go trans-sonic on a 16" barrel every so often but will cycle my SBR just fine and never go trans or super sonic out of the shorter barrel. Porting on the Mist seems to have no issue with cycling the action using bulk pack ammo. I don't recall shooting any subs through either of them to see what would happen. However any subsonic that wont cycle the action on a non-ported barrel is definitely not going to cycle the action on a ported barrel. One of the reason I like the Mist barreled guns is that I can shoot new 325rd Federal Bulk pack from Academy for ~6 cents a round or my much larger stash of old wally world 525 bulk pack for about half that cost. Good subsonic 22lr purchased today like Gemtech (when it can be found) is more like 11c a round to my door which is just shy of double the cost of new bulk pack from Academy or 4x that of my older pre-sandy hook walmart federal. |
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Just threw down on a Mist! Got an email from Target Sports with a deal on Gemtech subsonic so I took that as a sign. Clarify, you got a deal on ammo or the most itself? ETA: what's the right price at which to buy a mist? Don't think I got a deal on either, but I had been debating about getting the Mist. Got home and Go got an email about Gemtech subsonic ammo. Picked that up at Target Sports for 10 cents a round. I took the ammo email as a sign that i should get the Mist, so I bought it on Silencer Shop for $568. Going to call Gemtech tomorrow to see if my serial number is ported or not. |
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Don't think I got a deal on either, but I had been debating about getting the Mist. Got home and Go got an email about Gemtech subsonic ammo. Picked that up at Target Sports for 10 cents a round. I took the ammo email as a sign that i should get the Mist, so I bought it on Silencer Shop for $568. Going to call Gemtech tomorrow to see if my serial number is ported or not. Quoted:
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Just threw down on a Mist! Got an email from Target Sports with a deal on Gemtech subsonic so I took that as a sign. Clarify, you got a deal on ammo or the most itself? ETA: what's the right price at which to buy a mist? Don't think I got a deal on either, but I had been debating about getting the Mist. Got home and Go got an email about Gemtech subsonic ammo. Picked that up at Target Sports for 10 cents a round. I took the ammo email as a sign that i should get the Mist, so I bought it on Silencer Shop for $568. Going to call Gemtech tomorrow to see if my serial number is ported or not. Very cool , ordered mine yesterday as well. I confirmed with SilencerShop the version they have in stock is the ported version. Here is a vid I found online talking about the different versions, from the sounds of it looks like Gemtech will exchange out your ported version for the non ported version if choose to do that. I am actually glad SS had the ported version, going to shoot it this way and see how well it works with reg ammo, and see if the fouling is that bad, Guess if its that much of a bitch to clean and disassemble, i will look into getting the non ported version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8L237fhao8 |
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Very cool , ordered mine yesterday as well. I confirmed with SilencerShop the version they have in stock is the ported version. Here is a vid I found online talking about the different versions, from the sounds of it looks like Gemtech will exchange out your ported version for the non ported version if choose to do that. I am actually glad SS had the ported version, going to shoot it this way and see how well it works with reg ammo, and see if the fouling is that bad, Guess if its that much of a bitch to clean and disassemble, i will look into getting the non ported version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8L237fhao8 I made myself a set of half-pipes that cover the ported region of the barrel. Seems to work well for cutting down fouling on the tube. |
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Very cool , ordered mine yesterday as well. I confirmed with SilencerShop the version they have in stock is the ported version. Here is a vid I found online talking about the different versions, from the sounds of it looks like Gemtech will exchange out your ported version for the non ported version if choose to do that. I am actually glad SS had the ported version, going to shoot it this way and see how well it works with reg ammo, and see if the fouling is that bad, Guess if its that much of a bitch to clean and disassemble, i will look into getting the non ported version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8L237fhao8 I made myself a set of half-pipes that cover the ported region of the barrel. Seems to work well for cutting down fouling on the tube. Engineer would you mind sharing pics of what you did and how you created them. I have the ported and like the option but would not mind have the "option" to block them. |
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Sure! I ordered some stainless steel tubing from McMaster Carr:  and used a band saw to cut the tube in half. I field down the edges until the halves fit inside the outer tube of the Mist:   I added two o-rings on either side to help stabilize the half pipes (which probably helps a little to seal against debris):  Here are the half pipes by themselves. You can see the fouling from the ports in the barrel:  It's not perfect, but it seems to work well enough with my WECSOG skills... |
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Sure! I ordered some stainless steel tubing from McMaster Carr: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/McMaster_Tube_zpsgdfg1i8w.jpg and used a band saw to cut the tube in half. I field down the edges until the halves fit inside the outer tube of the Mist: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9280_zpsvl6af5es.jpg http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9281_zpsaeft9wke.jpg I added two o-rings on either side to help stabilize the half pipes (which probably helps a little to seal against debris): http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9283_zpszda5y1rg.jpg Here are the half pipes by themselves. You can see the fouling from the ports in the barrel: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9285_zps6q1y0qxb.jpg It's not perfect, but it seems to work well enough with my WECSOG skills... Damn that's actually pretty neat. Does it stop the barrel from making everything subsonic? |
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Sure! I ordered some stainless steel tubing from McMaster Carr: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/McMaster_Tube_zpsgdfg1i8w.jpg and used a band saw to cut the tube in half. I field down the edges until the halves fit inside the outer tube of the Mist: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9280_zpsvl6af5es.jpg http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9281_zpsaeft9wke.jpg I added two o-rings on either side to help stabilize the half pipes (which probably helps a little to seal against debris): http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9283_zpszda5y1rg.jpg Here are the half pipes by themselves. You can see the fouling from the ports in the barrel: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9285_zps6q1y0qxb.jpg It's not perfect, but it seems to work well enough with my WECSOG skills... Thanks for sharing! |
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Quoted: Damn that's actually pretty neat. Does it stop the barrel from making everything subsonic? Quoted: Quoted: Sure! I ordered some stainless steel tubing from McMaster Carr: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/McMaster_Tube_zpsgdfg1i8w.jpg and used a band saw to cut the tube in half. I field down the edges until the halves fit inside the outer tube of the Mist: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9280_zpsvl6af5es.jpg http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9281_zpsaeft9wke.jpg I added two o-rings on either side to help stabilize the half pipes (which probably helps a little to seal against debris): http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9283_zpszda5y1rg.jpg Here are the half pipes by themselves. You can see the fouling from the ports in the barrel: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/IMG_9285_zps6q1y0qxb.jpg It's not perfect, but it seems to work well enough with my WECSOG skills... Damn that's actually pretty neat. Does it stop the barrel from making everything subsonic? |
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I have not had the issue of rounds going super in either of mine. Maybe I have just been lucky with the bulk back I have been shooting. I am tempted to pick up some minimags and chrono them to see what happens.
There are definitely different generations of port location and barrel collar arrangement. The older MIST is on the top with the solid barrel collar and the port farther back toward the chamber. The newer one is on the bottom where you can see the port has moved forward away from the chamber and he collar now has a spiral groove cut into it to assist with carbon removal on the inside of the tube as you unscrew it. I have never had an issue with removing the tube on either one. The older one with the solid collar has taken a touch more muscle to remove when trying to get the tube over the barrel collar area. However, nothing more than a couple of twists back and forth. It could also due to it being on the higher round count gun (10/22) vs. the lever action. The spiral groove collar unit on the 96/22 has always just unscrewed with no issues. I do grease the thread area on both to keep them from getting carboned up. 
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Sure! Thanks so much Engineer. This gives me some ideas to work off of. I really like the idea. Still allows for the velocity drop, but contains the crud. The o-rings is a nice touch. What did you use for those, Some high temp o-ring? I was originally thinking some sort of "band" that could be tightened up and around the barrel to block the holes entirely but still give the user the ability to take it off. This would block the crub, but not allow for the velocity drop most likely. Off to buy some tubing and find someone with a saw. |
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Interesting follow up review posted on YouTube yesterday. I emailed GemTech last night with my serial to determine what version they are sending. Seems there may still be some variables in the port position or no port at all. Confusing too that he is saying it doesn't cycle with subs on his non-ported version. Also saying that the version with the port further away from the receiver does not reliable suppress rounds from going supersonic.
I was thinking the ported version located furthest away from the receiver was a good compromise between sound suppression and ease of maintenance but now not so sure. Then again, I am listening to a dude with a cat laser t-shirt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coBs_8BpXG8 |
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Interesting follow up review posted on YouTube yesterday. I emailed GemTech last night with my serial to determine what version they are sending. Seems there may still be some variables in the port position or no port at all. Confusing too that he is saying it doesn't cycle with subs on his non-ported version. Also saying that the version with the port further away from the receiver does not reliable suppress rounds from going supersonic. I was thinking the ported version located furthest away from the receiver was a good compromise between sound suppression and ease of maintenance but now not so sure. Then again, I am listening to a dude with a cat laser t-shirt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coBs_8BpXG8 Strength of the mainspring could be part of the issue too. I have a heavy spring and it's occasionally cranky with lower powered ammo. I will be trying a medium spring next. Mine makes less noise than a pellet gun with "standard velocity" ammo, and is ridiculous with subs (first time I fired it I didn't think it actually fired and was worried I had a squib or something). I like high velocity ammo but it doesn't get very quiet, and is supersonic even with the mist. |
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