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10/16/2015 8:15:30 PM EDT
My local SOT had some new cans (sig 22 too) in stock that I had never heard of before.
Keystone Armory out of Oklahoma I believe.
They has the Situator rimfire in aluminum core ($240) and SS core ($280). F/A and 5.7 rated on the SS, everything but 5.7 for the Aluminum.

It was a cool 1 piece core - first baffle was a K baffle and the rest was a monocore like a GM22.
The back end cap is the registered part and they had black, gray, or pink cerakoted (?) versions.

They also had a Ti-rant 45 that had been tumbled and bead blasted. That was nifty looking

Anyways, thought I'd share
10/16/2015 10:06:48 PM EDT
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My form 4 should be in before December. I have the aluminum version. I have only been able to shoot it indoors, and the aluminum version sounds a  bit louder than my sparrow. I also have access to the SS version as well and will compare it to my sparrow.  I also believe that the have changed the design of there monocore, they sent the store brand new monocores that were slightly different than the old ones as replacements .
10/16/2015 10:12:44 PM EDT
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Cool
Can I ask what you paid?
A quick google search yielded much higher prices...
10/16/2015 10:22:50 PM EDT
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I just took a look at them, the K baffle to mono core idea is kind of interesting, i would be curious how it sounds and meters. I like the cone to k baffle designs (mask) but i can't really think of one designed like that (cone/k into a monocore).  I wonder what effect that first baffle would have on the FRP.

Sending new mono cores to the dealers sounds a little sketchy, i didn't think you could send out replacement baffles like that.  I know there have been some newer interpretations of those rules lately pertaining to end caps (Saker/Octane/etc.) but i didn't think that applied to baffles.  either way the more stupid the rules are, the more confusing they can get.

-Mike
10/16/2015 10:32:48 PM EDT
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I just took a look at them, the K baffle to mono core idea is kind of interesting, i would be curious how it sounds and meters. I like the cone to k baffle designs (mask) but i can't really think of one designed like that (cone/k into a monocore).  I wonder what effect that first baffle would have on the FRP.

Sending new mono cores to the dealers sounds a little sketchy, i didn't think you could send out replacement baffles like that.  I know there have been some newer interpretations of those rules lately pertaining to end caps (Saker/Octane/etc.) but i didn't think that applied to baffles.  either way the more stupid the rules are, the more confusing they can get.

-Mike
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What's the story behind your signature? Lol
10/16/2015 10:39:41 PM EDT
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I just took a look at them, the K baffle to mono core idea is kind of interesting, i would be curious how it sounds and meters. I like the cone to k baffle designs (mask) but i can't really think of one designed like that (cone/k into a monocore).  I wonder what effect that first baffle would have on the FRP.

Sending new mono cores to the dealers sounds a little sketchy, i didn't think you could send out replacement baffles like that.  I know there have been some newer interpretations of those rules lately pertaining to end caps (Saker/Octane/etc.) but i didn't think that applied to baffles.  either way the more stupid the rules are, the more confusing they can get.

-Mike

What's the story behind your signature? Lol


(Sodomy)
UCMJ ART 125

"(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."

just one of the more ridiculous things in the UCMJ, the however slight part just made it particularly humurous to me. Then again the blue jackets manual also informs females that they should be wiping front to back.

-Mike
10/16/2015 10:46:19 PM EDT
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My form 4 should be in before December. I have the aluminum version. I have only been able to shoot it indoors, and the aluminum version sounds a  bit louder than my sparrow. I also have access to the SS version as well and will compare it to my sparrow.  I also believe that the have changed the design of there monocore, they sent the store brand new monocores that were slightly different than the old ones as replacements .
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would you say the first round pop is better, worse, or about the same as the sparrow?

my next rimfire can is going to be a lighter, shorter, possibly aluminum can.  mainly for pistol use, but i haven't really decided on which one.  I already have a mask, sparrow, and form 1 can but I haven't really found something I want bad enough to pull the trigger

-Mike
10/16/2015 11:02:40 PM EDT
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would you say the first round pop is better, worse, or about the same as the sparrow?

my next rimfire can is going to be a lighter, shorter, possibly aluminum can.  mainly for pistol use, but i haven't really decided on which one.  I already have a mask, sparrow, and form 1 can but I haven't really found something I want bad enough to pull the trigger

-Mike
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My form 4 should be in before December. I have the aluminum version. I have only been able to shoot it indoors, and the aluminum version sounds a  bit louder than my sparrow. I also have access to the SS version as well and will compare it to my sparrow.  I also believe that the have changed the design of there monocore, they sent the store brand new monocores that were slightly different than the old ones as replacements .


would you say the first round pop is better, worse, or about the same as the sparrow?

my next rimfire can is going to be a lighter, shorter, possibly aluminum can.  mainly for pistol use, but i haven't really decided on which one.  I already have a mask, sparrow, and form 1 can but I haven't really found something I want bad enough to pull the trigger

-Mike

What are your thoughts and opinions between the mask and sparrow if you don't mind? You can pm if you would rather.
10/16/2015 11:14:46 PM EDT
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What are your thoughts and opinions between the mask and sparrow if you don't mind? You can pm if you would rather.
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My form 4 should be in before December. I have the aluminum version. I have only been able to shoot it indoors, and the aluminum version sounds a  bit louder than my sparrow. I also have access to the SS version as well and will compare it to my sparrow.  I also believe that the have changed the design of there monocore, they sent the store brand new monocores that were slightly different than the old ones as replacements .


would you say the first round pop is better, worse, or about the same as the sparrow?

my next rimfire can is going to be a lighter, shorter, possibly aluminum can.  mainly for pistol use, but i haven't really decided on which one.  I already have a mask, sparrow, and form 1 can but I haven't really found something I want bad enough to pull the trigger

-Mike

What are your thoughts and opinions between the mask and sparrow if you don't mind? You can pm if you would rather.


Mask is in jail for another 6-8 weeks, so i can really give any first hand experience on that one unfortunately.  I really bought it because the baffle design interested me but i will post some comparisons as soon as the ATF gets around to stamping my paperwork.  I'm hoping its as good as all the reviews are saying because then ill probably jump on the mask micro that is supposed to come out in a couple months.

-Mike
10/16/2015 11:39:06 PM EDT
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would you say the first round pop is better, worse, or about the same as the sparrow?

my next rimfire can is going to be a lighter, shorter, possibly aluminum can.  mainly for pistol use, but i haven't really decided on which one.  I already have a mask, sparrow, and form 1 can but I haven't really found something I want bad enough to pull the trigger

-Mike
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My form 4 should be in before December. I have the aluminum version. I have only been able to shoot it indoors, and the aluminum version sounds a  bit louder than my sparrow. I also have access to the SS version as well and will compare it to my sparrow.  I also believe that the have changed the design of there monocore, they sent the store brand new monocores that were slightly different than the old ones as replacements .


would you say the first round pop is better, worse, or about the same as the sparrow?

my next rimfire can is going to be a lighter, shorter, possibly aluminum can.  mainly for pistol use, but i haven't really decided on which one.  I already have a mask, sparrow, and form 1 can but I haven't really found something I want bad enough to pull the trigger

-Mike

I have a GM22 pending for this very reason
10/19/2015 12:11:43 PM EDT
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To answer an earlier question, the Mask blows the sparrow out of the water as far as dB reduction goes and sounds much, much better on a pistol.  (It has basically no first round pop).

With the Keystone can... I need to do more testing on mine, but it sounded really good on a rifle when I took it out a couple times.  For a pistol can, I would use the Mask.  On a CZ bolt gun, the Keystone did sound pretty good.
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