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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:48:33 AM EDT
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I'm looking for a .22 can that i'm going to use for 22 only, i don't have any other calibers like 17wmr or 22mag. For all intents and purposes price isn't an issue, I don't mind buying a can in the $500-600 range which seems to be the upper limit.
Right now i'm looking up the AAC Element, SilencerCo Sparrow, and the Liberty Essence or Kodiak LT. I'm open to other suggestions. It really seems that each can has it's pro's and cons and you just need to balance them. There isn't a single "hands down best" option that I can find. At the moment i'll mostly be running the can on a pistol, but i don't see why i wouldn't get a .22 AR upper and run the can on that too. From what iv'e seen the big thing going for the sparrow is ease of cleaning. The AAC seems to suppress well and be light. The Liberty cans are said to suppress well and have much less blow back? But i've read reports that the liberty cans are a royal pain to clean. The liberty Essence seems like it's non existent in terms of weight. The blowback on my osprey45 with my FNX45T is a huge turn off. hot gunk peppering my face does not make shooting the combo fun at all. But since it's still in jail and my gunshop only let's me shoot with their ammo it could be an ammo issue, i have limited exposure to it. |
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I'm looking for a .22 can that i'm going to use for 22 only, i don't have any other calibers like 17wmr or 22mag. For all intents and purposes price isn't an issue, I don't mind buying a can in the $500-600 range which seems to be the upper limit. Right now i'm looking up the AAC Element, SilencerCo Sparrow, and the Liberty Essence or Kodiak LT. I'm open to other suggestions. It really seems that each can has it's pro's and cons and you just need to balance them. There isn't a single "hands down best" option that I can find. At the moment i'll mostly be running the can on a pistol, but i don't see why i wouldn't get a .22 AR upper and run the can on that too. From what iv'e seen the big thing going for the sparrow is ease of cleaning. The AAC seems to suppress well and be light. The Liberty cans are said to suppress well and have much less blow back? But i've read reports that the liberty cans are a royal pain to clean. The liberty Essence seems like it's non existent in terms of weight. The blowback on my osprey45 with my FNX45T is a huge turn off. hot gunk peppering my face does not make shooting the combo fun at all. But since it's still in jail and my gunshop only let's me shoot with their ammo it could be an ammo issue, i have limited exposure to it. Warlock 2, since you're only ever going to use it on .22. No reason to get anything heavier. |
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Warlock 2, since you're only ever going to use it on .22. No reason to get anything heavier. Quoted:
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I'm looking for a .22 can that i'm going to use for 22 only, i don't have any other calibers like 17wmr or 22mag. For all intents and purposes price isn't an issue, I don't mind buying a can in the $500-600 range which seems to be the upper limit. Right now i'm looking up the AAC Element, SilencerCo Sparrow, and the Liberty Essence or Kodiak LT. I'm open to other suggestions. It really seems that each can has it's pro's and cons and you just need to balance them. There isn't a single "hands down best" option that I can find. At the moment i'll mostly be running the can on a pistol, but i don't see why i wouldn't get a .22 AR upper and run the can on that too. From what iv'e seen the big thing going for the sparrow is ease of cleaning. The AAC seems to suppress well and be light. The Liberty cans are said to suppress well and have much less blow back? But i've read reports that the liberty cans are a royal pain to clean. The liberty Essence seems like it's non existent in terms of weight. The blowback on my osprey45 with my FNX45T is a huge turn off. hot gunk peppering my face does not make shooting the combo fun at all. But since it's still in jail and my gunshop only let's me shoot with their ammo it could be an ammo issue, i have limited exposure to it. Warlock 2, since you're only ever going to use it on .22. No reason to get anything heavier. SS baffles for a start. |
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Sparrow.... The FRP is very over rated. Folks who have never shot a suppressed weapon before have a   HOLY **** that's quiet response.
Think folks who complain about the FRP are just jealous they don't own a sparrow  ...and people who claim the Sparrow's FRP is overrated don't have six other 22 cans to compare them to 
OP, get the Element 2. There is no "best can" for every scenario, but there is no other can in my collection that is quieter on a pistol host than my Element 2. |
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...and people who claim the Sparrow's FRP is overrated don't have six other 22 cans to compare them to <a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg</a> OP, get the Element 2. There is no "best can" for every scenario, but there is no other can in my collection that is quieter on a pistol host than my Element 2. Quoted:
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Sparrow.... The FRP is very over rated. Folks who have never shot a suppressed weapon before have a HOLY **** that's quiet response.
Think folks who complain about the FRP are just jealous they don't own a sparrow ...and people who claim the Sparrow's FRP is overrated don't have six other 22 cans to compare them to <a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg</a> OP, get the Element 2. There is no "best can" for every scenario, but there is no other can in my collection that is quieter on a pistol host than my Element 2. But said people have shot their various buddies Outback, Element 2, HTA.... FRP? It's overrated... And above all else, the sparrow has the best design and is the easiest to clean. |
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But said people have shot their various buddies Outback, Element 2, HTA.... FRP? It's overrated... And above all else, the sparrow has the best design and is the easiest to clean. Quoted:
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Sparrow.... The FRP is very over rated. Folks who have never shot a suppressed weapon before have a HOLY **** that's quiet response.
Think folks who complain about the FRP are just jealous they don't own a sparrow ...and people who claim the Sparrow's FRP is overrated don't have six other 22 cans to compare them to <a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg</a> OP, get the Element 2. There is no "best can" for every scenario, but there is no other can in my collection that is quieter on a pistol host than my Element 2. But said people have shot their various buddies Outback, Element 2, HTA.... FRP? It's overrated... And above all else, the sparrow has the best design and is the easiest to clean. I disagree with the sparrow being the easiest to clean. I would say that award goes to the spectre 2. |
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I disagree with the sparrow being the easiest to clean. I would say that award goes to the spectre 2. Quoted:
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But said people have shot their various buddies Outback, Element 2, HTA.... FRP? It's overrated... And above all else, the sparrow has the best design and is the easiest to clean. I disagree with the sparrow being the easiest to clean. I would say that award goes to the spectre 2. With my sparrow, I strip all of the o-rings off, and dumb monocore and clam shells in "the dip" and leave overnight. Any little lead deposits I hit with a SS brush, put on all new o-rings, reassemble and I'm ready to rock n roll. How could it be any easier than that? 
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With my sparrow, I strip all of the o-rings off, and dumb monocore and clam shells in "the dip" and leave overnight. Any little lead deposits I hit with a SS brush, put on all new o-rings, reassemble and I'm ready to rock n roll. How could it be any easier than that? Quoted:
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But said people have shot their various buddies Outback, Element 2, HTA.... FRP? It's overrated... And above all else, the sparrow has the best design and is the easiest to clean. I disagree with the sparrow being the easiest to clean. I would say that award goes to the spectre 2. With my sparrow, I strip all of the o-rings off, and dumb monocore and clam shells in "the dip" and leave overnight. Any little lead deposits I hit with a SS brush, put on all new o-rings, reassemble and I'm ready to rock n roll. How could it be any easier than that? Dump the Spectre II baffles in a rotary tumbler, add stainless media, water and some Dawn. Tumble for a few hours, pull out the baffles, rinse, dry and reassemble. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Dump the Spectre II baffles in a rotary tumbler, add stainless media, water and some Dawn. Tumble for a few hours, pull out the baffles, rinse, dry and reassemble. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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But said people have shot their various buddies Outback, Element 2, HTA.... FRP? It's overrated... And above all else, the sparrow has the best design and is the easiest to clean. I disagree with the sparrow being the easiest to clean. I would say that award goes to the spectre 2. With my sparrow, I strip all of the o-rings off, and dumb monocore and clam shells in "the dip" and leave overnight. Any little lead deposits I hit with a SS brush, put on all new o-rings, reassemble and I'm ready to rock n roll. How could it be any easier than that? Dump the Spectre II baffles in a rotary tumbler, add stainless media, water and some Dawn. Tumble for a few hours, pull out the baffles, rinse, dry and reassemble. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Think I have to concede that y'all got me there
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Quoted: Think I have to concede that y'all got me there Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But said people have shot their various buddies Outback, Element 2, HTA.... FRP? It's overrated... And above all else, the sparrow has the best design and is the easiest to clean. I disagree with the sparrow being the easiest to clean. I would say that award goes to the spectre 2. With my sparrow, I strip all of the o-rings off, and dumb monocore and clam shells in "the dip" and leave overnight. Any little lead deposits I hit with a SS brush, put on all new o-rings, reassemble and I'm ready to rock n roll. How could it be any easier than that? Dump the Spectre II baffles in a rotary tumbler, add stainless media, water and some Dawn. Tumble for a few hours, pull out the baffles, rinse, dry and reassemble. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Think I have to concede that y'all got me there But I'll be dipping my Sparrow when it needs to be cleaned.
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Ok.... You two BACK OFF!!! Making me want to hit to the purchase button at the Silencer shops website!!! LolDo it and post pics! On a serious note. I honestly don't see a need to own more than one .22 can. I'm extremely happy with my Sparrow, and happy with it's performance even with compared to my buddies can's. I do have one question. With the Spectre II, can it thread straight onto say an AR? I have a threaded 10/22 that I have to use a spacer on since the threads were cut for an AR? |
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Quoted: On a serious note. I honestly don't see a need to own more than one .22 can. I'm extremely happy with my Sparrow, and happy with it's performance even with compared to my buddies can's. I do have one question. With the Spectre II, can it thread straight onto say an AR? I have a threaded 10/22 that I have to use a spacer on since the threads were cut for an AR? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ok.... You two BACK OFF!!! Making me want to hit to the purchase button at the Silencer shops website!!! LolDo it and post pics! On a serious note. I honestly don't see a need to own more than one .22 can. I'm extremely happy with my Sparrow, and happy with it's performance even with compared to my buddies can's. I do have one question. With the Spectre II, can it thread straight onto say an AR? I have a threaded 10/22 that I have to use a spacer on since the threads were cut for an AR? No need for more than one .22 can???? I wish I lived in your world. I'm up to 7 in hand and 2 more pending. C'mon just pull the trigger! Rimfire cans are all 0.4" spec including the Spectre II. There are only a few dedicated .22 AR barrels that are threaded to 0.4" - most are 0.6" and will need a spacer.
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On a serious note. I honestly don't see a need to own more than one .22 can. I'm extremely happy with my Sparrow, and happy with it's performance even with compared to my buddies can's. I do have one question. With the Spectre II, can it thread straight onto say an AR? I have a threaded 10/22 that I have to use a spacer on since the threads were cut for an AR? Can, but shouldn't. The normal .625" AR threads put the muzzle too far into the suppressor and cause excessive wear/damage to the blast chamber. Adapter, spacer, cut threads down...your three best options. Here's a recent thread discussing a similar question: Please explain the SilencerCo rimfire barrel thread stuff to me in layman's terms please |
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Sparrow.... The FRP is very over rated. Folks who have never shot a suppressed weapon before have a HOLY **** that's quiet response.
Think folks who complain about the FRP are just jealous they don't own a sparrow No. FRP matters when you are shooting pests and have neighbors (including a fish cop) |
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On a serious note. I honestly don't see a need to own more than one .22 can. I'm extremely happy with my Sparrow, and happy with it's performance even with compared to my buddies can's. I do have one question. With the Spectre II, can it thread straight onto say an AR? I have a threaded 10/22 that I have to use a spacer on since the threads were cut for an AR? Quoted:
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Ok.... You two BACK OFF!!! Making me want to hit to the purchase button at the Silencer shops website!!! LolDo it and post pics! On a serious note. I honestly don't see a need to own more than one .22 can. I'm extremely happy with my Sparrow, and happy with it's performance even with compared to my buddies can's. I do have one question. With the Spectre II, can it thread straight onto say an AR? I have a threaded 10/22 that I have to use a spacer on since the threads were cut for an AR? Some cans function better on pistols than rifles. For example, the Element is clearly a pistol can. It is quieter (and quietest out of competition) on a pistol. It is slightly louder on a rifle. Sparrow and Spectre II are as, or more quiet on a rifle. Both are also heavier than an Element. Which is fine typically on a rifle, but not on a handgun. I'm getting ready to get a second .22LR can for my 10/22. Deciding between Sparrow, Spectre II and possibly even an integral upper. |
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No. FRP matters when you are shooting pests and have neighbors (including a fish cop) Quoted:
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Sparrow.... The FRP is very over rated. Folks who have never shot a suppressed weapon before have a HOLY **** that's quiet response.
Think folks who complain about the FRP are just jealous they don't own a sparrow No. FRP matters when you are shooting pests and have neighbors (including a fish cop) unless some one told you to buy a Sparrow over everything else and you are sick and tired of defending an FRP'ing can (which is evident on every rimfire suppressor forum). I feel for the Sparrow owners but as a Spectre II owner agree with the above, FRP matters. And not just to James Bond or assassins. BANG, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft..... <------Song of the Sparrow OP, watch this video from the 3:00 point. Song of the Sparrow indeed. 
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FFS, this isn't that complicated. On pistols...
(Don't know why I can't embed these) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_xsaJ-iyM |
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unless some one told you to buy a Sparrow over everything else and you are sick and tired of defending an FRP'ing can (which is evident on every rimfire suppressor forum). I feel for the Sparrow owners but as a Spectre II owner agree with the above, FRP matters. And not just to James Bond or assassins. BANG, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft..... <------Song of the Sparrow OP, watch this video from the 3:00 point. Song of the Sparrow indeed.  http://youtu.be/ztFUm6YxXw4?t=3m
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Sparrow.... The FRP is very over rated. Folks who have never shot a suppressed weapon before have a HOLY **** that's quiet response.
Think folks who complain about the FRP are just jealous they don't own a sparrow No. FRP matters when you are shooting pests and have neighbors (including a fish cop) unless some one told you to buy a Sparrow over everything else and you are sick and tired of defending an FRP'ing can (which is evident on every rimfire suppressor forum). I feel for the Sparrow owners but as a Spectre II owner agree with the above, FRP matters. And not just to James Bond or assassins. BANG, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft..... <------Song of the Sparrow OP, watch this video from the 3:00 point. Song of the Sparrow indeed. http://youtu.be/ztFUm6YxXw4?t=3m
That video doesnt do justice for either can.... |
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...and people who claim the Sparrow's FRP is overrated don't have six other 22 cans to compare them to <a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg</a> OP, get the Element 2. There is no "best can" for every scenario, but there is no other can in my collection that is quieter on a pistol host than my Element 2. Quoted:
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Sparrow.... The FRP is very over rated. Folks who have never shot a suppressed weapon before have a HOLY **** that's quiet response.
Think folks who complain about the FRP are just jealous they don't own a sparrow ...and people who claim the Sparrow's FRP is overrated don't have six other 22 cans to compare them to <a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6099_zpsf4d65e13.jpg</a> OP, get the Element 2. There is no "best can" for every scenario, but there is no other can in my collection that is quieter on a pistol host than my Element 2. You're rich! Just a question... How come so many .22 cans? |
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I have one, it went back for a recore, was having lots of trouble with bullet tumble on handguns.. but on a rifle is is quiet.... Quoted:
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Why is it that the AAC Prodigy rarely is spoken about in .22 can threads? Anyone have one? What's the word on these? I have one, it went back for a recore, was having lots of trouble with bullet tumble on handguns.. but on a rifle is is quiet.... Which Gen monocore did it come with and which Gen are they upgrading to, 1-3 or 2-3? |
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First, lot of hosts. Second, the same suppressor can sound different on one host to the next. Thirdly, I like doing my own testing rather than relying on threads like this.  Quoted:
Just a question... How come so many .22 cans? First, lot of hosts. Second, the same suppressor can sound different on one host to the next. Thirdly, I like doing my own testing rather than relying on threads like this. I knew you were rich!
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