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1/13/2014 9:35:58 AM EDT
SAKER 762

CALIBER:
7.62 / Multi Caliber

WEIGHT:
20.7 OZ

DIAMETER:
1.5”

LENGTH:
7.5”

SOUND REDUCTION:
139 dB (tested with .308)
134 dB (tested with 5.56)
126 dB (tested with 300 BLK Subsonic)

FINISH:
Black Oxide

MOUNT:
Trifecta RS Flash Hider Mount

FEATURES:
Multi Caliber and Full Auto Rated

Interchangeable mounting options with MAAD Mount

Interchangeable front cap feature with MAAD Cap

Worry-free, positive locking, one hand on/off QD mount

Stellite™ baffle material +30% more durable than Inconel®

Hoplon baffle reduces harmful erosion (available on Saker556 model only)

Lifetime warranty

MSRP:
$1300



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P0q7txXpeA&feature=youtu.be


http://www.silencerco.com/saker/
1/13/2014 9:53:04 AM EDT
[#1]
Looks good.  Still waiting on Surefire mounts.
1/13/2014 10:01:16 AM EDT
[#2]
Can someone explain to me what the big deal is about this can over the specwar? Its over 200 bucks more expensive and only 4 ounces lighter. Sure its got the interchangeable mount but 95% of the guns out there use 1/2 or 5/8 thread which their mounts are nicer than any other qd mount on the market. Why would you saddle a nice can with the shitty mounts of other manufacturers? Surefire would be the only one I can see being worth it and they dont make surefire adapters.
1/13/2014 10:08:54 AM EDT
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Can someone explain to me what the big deal is about this can over the specwar? Its over 200 bucks more expensive and only 4 ounces lighter. Sure its got the interchangeable mount but 95% of the guns out there use 1/2 or 5/8 thread which their mounts are nicer than any other qd mount on the market. Why would you saddle a nice can with the shitty mounts of other manufacturers? Surefire would be the only one I can see being worth it and they dont make surefire adapters.
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Hoplon baffle.
1/13/2014 10:16:26 AM EDT
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Can someone explain to me what the big deal is about this can over the specwar? Its over 200 bucks more expensive and only 4 ounces lighter. Sure its got the interchangeable mount but 95% of the guns out there use 1/2 or 5/8 thread which their mounts are nicer than any other qd mount on the market. Why would you saddle a nice can with the shitty mounts of other manufacturers? Surefire would be the only one I can see being worth it and they dont make surefire adapters.

Hoplon baffle.


Nope, "(available on Saker556 model only)"

The big deal over the Specwar is

1. No external teeth on the mount. While the silencer is off, the saker mount can not be damaged (relative to the ASR/Specwar mount)
2. The Saker mount like the surefire mounts lock up as tight as possible. They both appear to use a backwards force to lock the can in with indexing tabs on the mount only provided for indexing. The Specware uses the teeth as the lock surface, it's the difference in locking rotationally vs locking backwards, I think backwards is the better option as seen on the latest generation of cans.
3. 4oz on the can, unknown delta on the mounts themselves. Most mounts are approx 4oz themselves
4. It's all about commonality. The Saker series allows for thread mount options, and Silencerco says they plan on 51T, YHM, and Surefire adapters. That is, you can buy all SWR/AAC/YHM/SF and also a Saker and use the non-saker mount, negating a couple of advantages above. Likewise if you have a Saker556 and want to use the Saker mount, a Specwar makes no sense.
5. Uses the Saker style end caps on the muzzle end
1/13/2014 10:19:59 AM EDT
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Can someone explain to me what the big deal is about this can over the specwar? Its over 200 bucks more expensive and only 4 ounces lighter. Sure its got the interchangeable mount but 95% of the guns out there use 1/2 or 5/8 thread which their mounts are nicer than any other qd mount on the market. Why would you saddle a nice can with the shitty mounts of other manufacturers? Surefire would be the only one I can see being worth it and they dont make surefire adapters.

Hoplon baffle.


Nope, "(available on Saker556 model only)"

I misread, thank you.
1/13/2014 10:25:17 AM EDT
[#6]
Well, I dunno about the 762 obviously, but I recently got my 223 Saker out of jail, and it is NICE.
Weighs a bit more than my YHM 762 Phantom Ti but it's shorter and frankly much quieter.
1/13/2014 10:42:17 AM EDT
[#7]
I wonder why the Saker762 won't have the Hoplon baffle. They must know people are going to use it on SBR'd 5.56 weapons. Makes no sense to me.
1/13/2014 10:51:03 AM EDT
[#8]
Damn it!  I have a SPECWAR 762 still in NFA jail.  I thought they said it would be a couple of years before producing a Saker in 7.62??
1/13/2014 10:54:42 AM EDT
[#9]
Saker 5.56 was announced 2 years ago and actually got to dealers less than a year ago. We knew it was coming, and most expected it today.
1/13/2014 11:05:50 AM EDT
[#10]
My body is ready. Already have a 556 one in jail.
1/13/2014 11:55:00 AM EDT
[#11]
I forgot about the direct thread mount and also didnt notice its only 7.5". I believe this might be the can for my 12.5" 6.8SPC SBR. This would be the perfect can for someone who was only going to have one can although I dont know very many people who were able to stop at one.
1/13/2014 12:50:18 PM EDT
[#12]
Street price estimates?
1/13/2014 1:24:26 PM EDT
[#13]
MSRP is a c-bill above the 5.56 version, figure $999 at silencershop including a mount.
1/13/2014 4:23:56 PM EDT
[#14]
I cant seem to find the trifecta muzzle brake. I do not need a flash hider for my intended purpose, Id much rather have a muzzle brake but I cant seem to find one anywhere listed.
1/13/2014 4:32:01 PM EDT
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Here's the Saker556 version.
1/13/2014 6:12:45 PM EDT
[#16]
I'm just getting into the Can game. I believe I'm going to order a Sparrow and 5.56 Saker tomorrow. Then the 7.62 Saker as soon as it's available. I can't believe my wife agreed to it. I didn't exactly tell her prices though.
1/13/2014 6:35:21 PM EDT
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I'm just getting into the Can game. I believe I'm going to order a Sparrow and 5.56 Saker tomorrow. Then the 7.62 Saker as soon as it's available. I can't believe my wife agreed to it. I didn't exactly tell her prices though.
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Why not cover all the bases and get an Octane45 along with the Sparrow and Saker?






1/13/2014 6:39:54 PM EDT
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good choice, I just ordered the sparrow, saker, and osprey 9 today...cant wait to get.  As soon as 7.62 saker comes out I will be ordering.
1/13/2014 6:46:46 PM EDT
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  Why not cover all the bases and get an Octane45 along with the Sparrow and Saker?





I really would like to, but I'm in the middle of a couple other builds too. I'm going to be broke for the next three years.
1/13/2014 6:51:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Looks pretty cool.  I had been waiting for this to come out so I could make my 7.62 can purchase. That being said I think I'm going to go with the Thunderbeast 30BAS. Street price will be the same and it's quieter and shorter. Sure it won't handle multiple mag dumps but that won't be a problem for me.
1/13/2014 7:04:32 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm kinda glad I went ahead with the Specwar.



I have no use for the MAAD mount so it makes more sense for me.
1/13/2014 7:53:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Ditto, started with a 5.56 saker last year (got it last month) a sparrow sitting in jail and eyeing the 7.62 Saker or Harvester to round out the family before the June NFA changes.

I really like the future-proofing of the MAAD Mount. Who knows what will come out next year, 5 years from now etc.
1/13/2014 8:57:49 PM EDT
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Same here. I really have no use for multiple hider/brake mounts. I've been buying cans now for future builds, so I won't be moving them around too much. Plus I really like the plain smooth look of the specwars.
1/14/2014 4:37:58 AM EDT
[#24]
To me the great benefits for it is its 7.5" and can be converted to direct thread. The mount is awesome as well, even better than the swr mount even though theres nothing wrong with the swr mount.
1/14/2014 9:29:52 AM EDT
[#25]
I bought a Sparrow this last August and was going to buy an ACC 762SDN-6, but after hearing my concerns about wobbly mount issues, my dealer suggested I wait till SHOT because "I think Silencerco is going to release their 762Saker", he was right on the money =-)
1/14/2014 6:10:06 PM EDT
[#26]
Any idea when we can expect these to hit the dealers?
1/14/2014 6:15:21 PM EDT
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Once the Form 3s are approved.
1/14/2014 6:30:27 PM EDT
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Once the Form 3s are approved.


Ain't that the truth.
1/14/2014 7:07:54 PM EDT
[#29]
about damn time! the savings account is going to hurt soon.
1/15/2014 4:08:52 AM EDT
[#30]
So, at 20.7oz what does this offer that I can't get elsewhere (mount system I'd think)?  I was really hoping for a little less weight or significantly shorter length or something.  I think this is showing that we are at the end of a cycle of innovation in this technology and there isn't really going to be anything earth-shattering happening moving forward in the silencer world.

I'd love to see some independant testing of this moving forward, but I've gotta get a can in the system just in case 41P goes forward.  I am heavily invested in YHM mounts, so this was the only other option I was waiting for other than the LT or Ti LT.  I hate feeling like I am in a rush with something I'll ostensibly own for the rest of my life.
1/15/2014 4:29:41 AM EDT
[#31]
You couldn't really expect it to weigh much less. The saker 556 weighs 18.02
1/15/2014 4:43:07 AM EDT
[#32]
I really like Silencerco as a company, I have been very pleased with their customer service. I think I am going to stick with the SpecWar 762. I am glad they are making the Saker in 762 for people that are invested in multiple mounts, but I am not one of those.

I would be really interested to see side-by-side testing. From the data it looks like the SpecWar is 2db quieter on 308, but there wasn't enough listed to say for sure.
1/15/2014 6:50:12 AM EDT
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I really like Silencerco as a company, I have been very pleased with their customer service. I think I am going to stick with the SpecWar 762. I am glad they are making the Saker in 762 for people that are invested in multiple mounts, but I am not one of those.

I would be really interested to see side-by-side testing. From the data it looks like the SpecWar is 2db quieter on 308, but there wasn't enough listed to say for sure.
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another thing I am curious about is what the 7.62 Saker is rated for, the SpecWar is magnum rated; is the Saker?
1/15/2014 9:42:03 AM EDT
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My impression from their data sheet on the website is .308 for the 762 Saker.

Don't get me wrong - I wasn't "expecting" anything spectacular, I was just using this to illustrate that there isn't much more to do with silencer technology until we get into things like destructive interference or something similar.  If you look at almost all the modern designs, they are within a few decibels of each other, which is well within the human ear's ability to discern a difference at 120dB+.

Honestly, if I can find one so I could get Form 4 e-file on the books before 41P is scheduled to have activity on it (June/July?) I think I would go with a Saker.  I really like Josh et. al. and I LOVE my 45Osprey.  I guess I am impressed by this offering, but not awestruck?  Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
1/15/2014 10:20:23 AM EDT
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I bought a Sparrow this last August and was going to buy an ACC 762SDN-6, but after hearing my concerns about wobbly mount issues, my dealer suggested I wait till SHOT because "I think Silencerco is going to release their 762Saker", he was right on the money =-)
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wobbly mount?  I don't have a SDN-6 but when I got my hands on one at the LGS the lock up was pretty damn tight.
1/16/2014 11:09:48 AM EDT
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I really like Silencerco as a company, I have been very pleased with their customer service. I think I am going to stick with the SpecWar 762. I am glad they are making the Saker in 762 for people that are invested in multiple mounts, but I am not one of those.

I would be really interested to see side-by-side testing. From the data it looks like the SpecWar is 2db quieter on 308, but there wasn't enough listed to say for sure.


another thing I am curious about is what the 7.62 Saker is rated for, the SpecWar is magnum rated; is the Saker?


According to the video description from Silencerco the saker is ultra mag rated.
1/17/2014 8:10:09 PM EDT
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I really like Silencerco as a company, I have been very pleased with their customer service. I think I am going to stick with the SpecWar 762. I am glad they are making the Saker in 762 for people that are invested in multiple mounts, but I am not one of those.

I would be really interested to see side-by-side testing. From the data it looks like the SpecWar is 2db quieter on 308, but there wasn't enough listed to say for sure.


another thing I am curious about is what the 7.62 Saker is rated for, the SpecWar is magnum rated; is the Saker?


According to the video description from Silencerco the saker is ultra mag rated.
nice.
1/18/2014 6:32:37 PM EDT
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I really like Silencerco as a company, I have been very pleased with their customer service. I think I am going to stick with the SpecWar 762. I am glad they are making the Saker in 762 for people that are invested in multiple mounts, but I am not one of those.

I would be really interested to see side-by-side testing. From the data it looks like the SpecWar is 2db quieter on 308, but there wasn't enough listed to say for sure.


another thing I am curious about is what the 7.62 Saker is rated for, the SpecWar is magnum rated; is the Saker?


According to the video description from Silencerco the saker is ultra mag rated.


That's really good news.
1/19/2014 5:12:16 PM EDT
[#39]
The mounting system is pretty impressive. I ordered the 556 can and am considering getting the 762 one also. I have the SDN6 in jail now but I would rather have the Saker.

Being able to change out the end cap is pretty cool too. You wouldn't have to send in your can if you mess it up with a baffle strike. You can also put a  556 end cap on the 762 can when shooting it out of a 556 that is supposed to cut down on gasses and make it a little quieter.

$925 is what I was told
1/19/2014 5:47:33 PM EDT
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So, when can I order one!
1/19/2014 5:59:58 PM EDT
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1/19/2014 6:17:54 PM EDT
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I am expecting SCo to be shipping them to distributors in about a month. I will know for sure during the AcuSport show this week.
1/19/2014 8:57:37 PM EDT
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The mounting system is pretty impressive. I ordered the 556 can and am considering getting the 762 one also. I have the SDN6 in jail now but I would rather have the Saker.

Being able to change out the end cap is pretty cool too. You wouldn't have to send in your can if you mess it up with a baffle strike. You can also put a  556 end cap on the 762 can when shooting it out of a 556 that is supposed to cut down on gasses and make it a little quieter.

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Err... if you get a baffle strike you'll definitely need to send it in. Maybe not an endcap strike, but definitely for a baffle strike.
1/19/2014 9:10:45 PM EDT
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Damn I hope I can wait!
1/19/2014 10:44:21 PM EDT
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I am expecting SCo to be shipping them to distributors in about a month. I will know for sure during the AcuSport show this week.

Damn I hope I can wait!


As long as it can beat the trust rule change, I'll be happy.

Any idea of the barrel length rating for 556 SBRs?
1/20/2014 5:59:16 AM EDT
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As long as it can beat the trust rule change, I'll be happy.

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Damn I hope I can wait!


As long as it can beat the trust rule change, I'll be happy.

Any idea of the barrel length rating for 556 SBRs?


I would imagine 10.5 with it not having the hoplon baffles. I believe it have the same material as the specwar so what ever it it rated to

Eta: when are the changes suppose to happen?
1/20/2014 6:34:00 AM EDT
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1/20/2014 7:45:18 AM EDT
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Eta: when are the changes suppose to happen?

This summer.

It's been noted by the American Silencer Association that it will likely be at least a year before 41P can reasonably go into effect, if it does at all.  Why you ask?  Because by law the ATF must generate a reply to all qualified comments (of which there were approximately 8,500) posted during the comment period and it's been estimated that it will take at least a year to do so.

See this post: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/415811_EDIT___Something_interesting_RE_41p__previously___Anything_interesting_from_the_SHOT_show_.html&page=1#i3922410
1/20/2014 8:02:52 AM EDT
[#49]
Sweet!  I've been putting off buying a 7.62 can in hopes that this would be out soon.
3/11/2014 7:24:45 AM EDT
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Have any dealers had their Form 3's approved yet? I see Silencer Shop doesn't have it listed on their site, and West Fork Armory has it listed as backorderable. So I'm guessing not?

I'm waiting for M3 to get their form 3 approved, so they can then send it to my dealer on a form 3, and then I get to wait for an E-file form 4. I'm figuring probably close to a year, if I'm lucky. So 41p may or may not make life interesting. I guess that depends on whether or not it happens THIS summer, or next spring.

I've already paid for it, with the MAAD mount, $1020 plus sales tax, so not too bad, from what I've been seeing.

From what I've seen on here, there's some doubt as to whether Major Malfunction actually does E-file their Form 3's, so it could ba another month, could be longer.

At least I've got my Sparrow currently in Jail, as the dealer had one left in stock.
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