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Posted: 6/9/2013 5:33:36 PM EDT
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My Liberty Kodiak TL is a pita to take apart. It has <1,000 rounds through it since being dip cleaned to like new. The sides of the core were coated with automotive anti-seize, including a little on the thin parts of the outside.
Last night I soaked it in Kroil turning/shaking/topping it off every so often. Today I tried to get it apart after draining it, and it went about 1/4" and no further. I did tap the tool with a dead blow hammer while holding the tube in my hand, but not hard enough to move it. I did get the core pushed back in and it is soaking again, but I wanted to know what I am doing wrong? Is there a specific anti-seize I should be using? Ammunition is almost exclusively CCI SV. |
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I don't have any real suggestions on taking it apart, partially because I am not familiar with its construction. My guess is that the issue is carbon build-up rather than lead. You might try soaking in carbon softening compounds, such as LRM Carbon Cutter. Remember that some of the water-based cleaning agents (such as Simple Green) are exceptionally alkaline solutions that can strip the color out of anodizing, and this is not a manufacturing defect.
Your use of anti-sieze is effective primarily on threads. These compounds are designed to reduce friction, not resist the application of direct flame. In areas subject to the gases, it acts more like an ablative agent and will pretty much burn onto the parts -- adding to the carbon build-up. A last resort, of course, is returning it to the manufacturer. The lesson here is that regardless of what anyone tells you, a .22 suppressor that can be disassembled for cleaning should be taken apart and cleaned at intervals not to exceed 250 rounds. Philip H. Dater/Gemtech |
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Any can that has a slip-fit monocore is going to have this problem. That's the main reason I bought a Sparrow 
You can take down a Sparrow with no tools after 5000 rounds just as easily as if it were after 50 rounds. Exactly the reason I ordered a Spectre II. Best of luck OP. |
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FWIW I have a Sparrow and Spectre II in jail. Sparrow should be back anytime, and the Spectre was only sent in 6-7 weeks ago. I am not even sure if it is pending yet.
PHD hit the nail. I can see the pattern of the anti-seize on the inside of the can. I got most of it out, but will finish it tonight. Try it dry inside, and clean more often. |
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Quoted: I don't have any real suggestions on taking it apart, partially because I am not familiar with its construction. My guess is that the issue is carbon build-up rather than lead. You might try soaking in carbon softening compounds, such as LRM Carbon Cutter. Remember that some of the water-based cleaning agents (such as Simple Green) are exceptionally alkaline solutions that can strip the color out of anodizing, and this is not a manufacturing defect. Your use of anti-sieze is effective primarily on threads. These compounds are designed to reduce friction, not resist the application of direct flame. In areas subject to the gases, it acts more like an ablative agent and will pretty much burn onto the parts -- adding to the carbon build-up. A last resort, of course, is returning it to the manufacturer. The lesson here is that regardless of what anyone tells you, a .22 suppressor that can be disassembled for cleaning should be taken apart and cleaned at intervals not to exceed 250 rounds. Philip H. Dater/Gemtech Not true certain models maybe, but not the Sparrow, Warlock II etc. I and lots of other folks have put thousands of rounds through a Sparrow and it's just as easy to take apart when it has had no rounds through it. |
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I coat everything in anti seize and never have an issue. Everything comes apart and goes back together without much hassle. The crap wipes right off the can with a rag. I don't go on wild shooting runs with it. Maybe a few dozen rounds at a time, cleaning around 1000 or so.
The first time I tried to disassemble it, I played hell to get it apart. Penetrating oil and a propane torch did the trick. |
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Quoted: Any can that has a slip-fit monocore is going to have this problem. That's the main reason I bought a Sparrow You can take down a Sparrow with no tools after 5000 rounds just as easily as if it were after 50 rounds. And it will have to look brand new before you can put it back together.  |
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Any can that has a slip-fit monocore is going to have this problem. That's the main reason I bought a Sparrow
You can take down a Sparrow with no tools after 5000 rounds just as easily as if it were after 50 rounds. And it will have to look brand new before you can put it back together. Talking about the sparrow? |
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another Spectre 2 owner. I did a bunch of research before for this issue a db reduction. I thought the SWR had the best and I'm not disappointed w/ the purchase. I also have a Kestrel 762 from Huntertown n jail as well. I would have liked an SWR again but I really like to idea of taking it apart and the mount having the ser#.
You pay way too much and wait waaaaay to long to have issues like this sir. On a side note. I have been using Hoppes #9 as my cleaning agent for the baffles and such. It softens the lead and w/ a slight scrub and wipe they are clean.
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