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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - sdn6 = ehh (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/2/2013 6:53:24 PM EDT
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i dont want to sound like a suppressor snob, this is the ONLY ONE i own. i know NOT TO EXPECT movie quiet cause that dont exsist. with all that said, the recoil did decrease i'd say by 20-30%, the sound is like a cross between a pneumatic nail gun/loud .22lr. i think it is hearing safe (still waiting on my subsonic ammo from Southwest Ammunition) with reg .308 academy brand Monarch rounds.i did get a chance to try it on my 10.5 Noveske switchblock (sounded a lil more quite) but not super impressed.
i just hope that any future silence buyers... IT WILL NOT BE MOVIE QUIET, GET FOR THE REASON I HAVE IT, IM THE ONLY ONE OF MY BUDDIES THAT HAVE IT REASON. IT IS COOL, BUT IF I COULD SPEND MY $900 plus $200 TAX STAMP AGAIN... THINK I RATHER PUT THAT $1100 TOWARDS A FS2000 CQB. yes yes, i know peoples gonna chime in and burn my ass, BUT im giving my honest opinion. 
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| Not to "burn your ass", but I'm assuming you bought this w/o knowing anything about actual suppressors. You should have purchased a .22 can with a bolt action host if you wanted movie quiet. Hell, get a 300blk upper with subsonic rounds and it'll be quiet. A 5.56 AR is going to be mid to high 130's with the best of cans, which the SDN-6 is. Suppressors aren't for everyone and it's a good idea to try one out before buying. |
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You didn't know this?
It's a metal tube with baffles. Not a magic wand. You have a can that many here consider to be one of the best on the market. I think once you adjust your expectations, your thoughts will change. Also, there are a lot of variables that affect the sound level. Go sit 50 yards away and have a buddy pull the trigger with and without the can on it. And for god sakes, that can is NOT hearing safe. Put your ear pro on. |
| my first suppressor was a SDN-6 and i loved it and have since bought 2 more a 9 and a .22 yes a bolt .22 is stupid quiet along with sub 300 blkout. I think you are expecting too much 5.56 is a loud round same with .308 get some subsonic and you should be more impressed just my 2 cents |
| Shooting supers thru a supressor still produces a significant report from the sonic shockwave, you need to shoot subsonics to get a report that even comes close to hollywood quiet. Shooting subs does make it quiet enough to shoot safely without hearing protection. keep the velocity below 1050. |
| i do like it, i am telling pre buyers what to expect. i know it wont be movie quiet i know i need subs, like i stated im waiting on my sub ammo i bought. iwe think its hearing safe cause to us it sounds like a shooting my. 22 pictured. i have watched many youtube and read, but none of the videos say what they compare the sound to, they just shoot. im just saying whst it sounds to my. i do plan on getting a ti phanton next. or the cyclone. |
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i do like it, i am telling pre buyers what to expect. i know it wont be movie quiet i know i need subs, like i stated im waiting on my sub ammo i bought. iwe think its hearing safe cause to us it sounds like a shooting my. 22 pictured. i have watched many youtube and read, but none of the videos say what they compare the sound to, they just shoot. im just saying whst it sounds to my. i do plan on getting a ti phanton next. or the cyclone. It's hard to take this sentiment seriously when one starts a thread titled "sdn6 = ehh" in the suppressor forum. "Ehh" is generally reserved for when one feels ambiguous about something, not when one likes it. |
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i do like it, i am telling pre buyers what to expect. i know it wont be movie quiet i know i need subs, like i stated im waiting on my sub ammo i bought. iwe think its hearing safe cause to us it sounds like a shooting my. 22 pictured. i have watched many youtube and read, but none of the videos say what they compare the sound to, they just shoot. im just saying whst it sounds to my. i do plan on getting a ti phanton next. or the cyclone. It's hard to take this sentiment seriously when one starts a thread titled "sdn6 = ehh" in the suppressor forum. "Ehh" is generally reserved for when one feels ambiguous about something, not when one likes it. Yeah, I like it, don't love it. I am working on a 300blk now, I just waiting for the barrel I want to be in stock, and this one issue I have with not able to find ammo. |
What does that even mean?
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Quoted: I'm happy with my surefire FA556AR because I can ditch the muffs and run just ear plugs. I hate wearing plugs and muffs, need to pick up some electronic muffs when I shoot the big boys. Don't forget to mention 'The Wiggle' you get with the 51T mount. That caught me offguard, and still bugs me. |
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the sound is like a cross between a pneumatic nail gun/loud .22lr. i think it is hearing safe (still waiting on my subsonic ammo from Southwest Ammunition) with reg .308 academy brand Monarch rounds.i did get a chance to try it on my 10.5 Noveske switchblock (sounded a lil more quite) but not super impressed. I think turning a full-power .308 explosion into the sound of a "loud .22LR" is awesome. Maybe I'm just more easily impressed? How much more suppression were you looking for? A quiet .22LR? A pellet gun? It's a .308. |
It certainly depends on what your wants and expectations were previously to buying it. I gladly spent 1100 (stamp included) on a YHM 762 Ti just to obtain a rifle that won't cause hearing damage when I use it for hunting big game, because most elk and deer aren't courteous enough to stop and let you put ear plugs in  .
You can still be james bond with sub sonics, as what everyone else mentioned, but don't expect to be laying down too many 4-legged animals with antlers/horns. |
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There are a lot of new people in this hobby lately, and unfortunately, they come to the table with a whole bunch of misconceptions. The reality of a sound suppressor is that most of them help you preserve your hearing while not wearing ear protection. If you want impressive sound suppression, buy a .22 suppressor, I promise you'll love it.
FYI about your FS2000 idea, make sure you handle one first hand as well, as many people buy them without touching one and are again, disenchanted. I loved mine, but when FNH told me a bolt was $500, It went up for sale before the phone hung up. Things aren't always what we hoped they would be. |
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You do understand now that no suppressor will ever be able to get rid of the sonic crack created by super sonic ammo? You need to shoot the 300BLK subsonic to get anywhere near bb gun quiet and if you really want a gun to be as quiet as possible use a bolt action .22.
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| I took my OPS INC M4M out today for the first time (hope to start a detailed thread tomorrow). I had low expectations as it is a small reflex can. I was very pleasantly surprised. It exceeded my expectations in almost every way. I did expect more recoil control, but it was muted. I could shoot muff-free but would not want to do so all day. |
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I'm happy with my surefire FA556AR because I can ditch the muffs and run just ear plugs. I hate wearing plugs and muffs, need to pick up some electronic muffs when I shoot the big boys. Don't forget to mention 'The Wiggle' you get with the 51T mount. That caught me offguard, and still bugs me. Actually no wriggle in my 556 & 308 brake mounts, I wonder if that's a flash hider thing only. |
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Vagina = ehhh. Anyone out there looking for a SO needs to keep in mind that not all chicks are hollywood hot. Some are fat and smelly and dont live up to the expectations you might build up while fapping to Jessica Beil or that liberal Scarlet Johanson. 
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Ill have to admit when I read this thread title I was starting to shit myself because today I got my trust and put my money down on a SDN 762. After reading the comments Im feeling a lot better about my purchase. Rest easy. I love mine, however I was familiar with the sound of rifle cans before I bought it. |
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I'm happy with my surefire FA556AR because I can ditch the muffs and run just ear plugs. I hate wearing plugs and muffs, need to pick up some electronic muffs when I shoot the big boys. Don't forget to mention 'The Wiggle' you get with the 51T mount. That caught me offguard, and still bugs me. Not all of them wobble, but most 5.56 cans do. (I.E. Surefire 556K, KAC QDSS NT4) The wobble helps with giving some room for carbon build up so the can doesn't get stuck on. The more recent ones that companies are coming out with don't. Both my M42000 and 762SDN-6 has zero wobble on both my blackouts. Guess I got lucky? |
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I'm happy with my surefire FA556AR because I can ditch the muffs and run just ear plugs. I hate wearing plugs and muffs, need to pick up some electronic muffs when I shoot the big boys. Don't forget to mention 'The Wiggle' you get with the 51T mount. That caught me offguard, and still bugs me. Actually no wriggle in my 556 & 308 brake mounts, I wonder if that's a flash hider thing only. Interesting. I might have to buy a 51T Muzzle Brake just to try it out. I know the MK13-SD uses the new 90T mount, which was designed to reduce the 'wiggle.' And AAC has said that the 'wiggle' is normal. But it drives me crazy. Save your money. It can happen on any mount. I got a brake mount and it had some play. It finally clicked over a few months after I got the suppressor and is pretty tight, still a tiny bit of rotational play in her. It doesnt effect anything though. The gun shoots tighter groups with the can on. The only time I have a flyer is when I dont rotate the can "off" after i put it on the mount to get the teeth in the valley of the mount I guess its easier to say I get consistent and accurate groups when the teeth are in the valley of the mount, rather than having the can butt up against the shoulder of the mount. When the can is butted up against the shoulder I will have a flyer, then the can will settle in the valley of the mount and all groups are consistent after. I guess Im the only one who thinks the play isnt a big deal. Ive got about 5k through it. No problems, good as the day I bought it, I swear its quiter now than the day I bought it, and its accurate what more do you want? |
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I'm happy with my surefire FA556AR because I can ditch the muffs and run just ear plugs. I hate wearing plugs and muffs, need to pick up some electronic muffs when I shoot the big boys. Don't forget to mention 'The Wiggle' you get with the 51T mount. That caught me offguard, and still bugs me. Actually no wriggle in my 556 & 308 brake mounts, I wonder if that's a flash hider thing only. Interesting. I might have to buy a 51T Muzzle Brake just to try it out. I know the MK13-SD uses the new 90T mount, which was designed to reduce the 'wiggle.' And AAC has said that the 'wiggle' is normal. But it drives me crazy. They also say it doesn't affect accuracy... which is bullshit. 
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I'm happy with my surefire FA556AR because I can ditch the muffs and run just ear plugs. I hate wearing plugs and muffs, need to pick up some electronic muffs when I shoot the big boys. Don't forget to mention 'The Wiggle' you get with the 51T mount. That caught me offguard, and still bugs me. Actually no wriggle in my 556 & 308 brake mounts, I wonder if that's a flash hider thing only. Interesting. I might have to buy a 51T Muzzle Brake just to try it out. I know the MK13-SD uses the new 90T mount, which was designed to reduce the 'wiggle.' And AAC has said that the 'wiggle' is normal. But it drives me crazy. They also say it doesn't affect accuracy... which is bullshit. http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p505/arfcomaje/IMG-20120310-00482.jpg I'll let you guess which is before and after. Mine effects my accuracy positively. |
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I'm happy with my surefire FA556AR because I can ditch the muffs and run just ear plugs. I hate wearing plugs and muffs, need to pick up some electronic muffs when I shoot the big boys. Don't forget to mention 'The Wiggle' you get with the 51T mount. That caught me offguard, and still bugs me. Actually no wriggle in my 556 & 308 brake mounts, I wonder if that's a flash hider thing only. Interesting. I might have to buy a 51T Muzzle Brake just to try it out. I know the MK13-SD uses the new 90T mount, which was designed to reduce the 'wiggle.' And AAC has said that the 'wiggle' is normal. But it drives me crazy. They also say it doesn't affect accuracy... which is bullshit. http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p505/arfcomaje/IMG-20120310-00482.jpg I'll let you guess which is before and after. Sounds like you have a concentricity issue. My can is almost a full tooth loose on my TRG and still results in tighter groups. 
Does real well on the SR-25 too... 
Taking a dremel to your mount to "get a tighter lockup" is a good way to void your warranty if you ever have a problem and to creat a misalignment of the can. The only way I'd ever consider doing this is with a lathe and some know how. |
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I bought my 370Z only to figure out that the Sport package brakes can't take my driving style even on the street (although the tires held up great for 17K miles, and the pads themselves are great. The rotors just warp every 7-10K miles).
Yeah, I could have researched more, then I would have stuck with my 'vette and just lived with the interior. Anyway, this sounds like the same thing. You wanted one, so now you got it, and the knowledge of its performance has been at your fingertips the whole time. Well, now you know. The expensive way. It's time to buy a 300 BLK and run subs. 
That's what I'm going to, anyway, with all my SBR stuff. 30 cal FTW! |
| Well, the first can I bought was an Outback II. When I went to pick it up (from Arfcom member Renegade X) there were some other guys there picking up .223 and pistol cans. We went out back and shot them all. That was my education in how suppressed cans sound with different calibers. I guess I was lucky to have that experience early on. |
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Sounds like you have a concentricity issue. My can is almost a full tooth loose on my TRG and still results in tighter groups. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/cms81586/cht_zps4ffac974.png Does real well on the SR-25 too... http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/cms81586/IMAG0573_zps4b11821a.jpg Taking a dremel to your mount to "get a tighter lockup" is a good way to void your warranty if you ever have a problem and to creat a misalignment of the can. The only way I'd ever consider doing this is with a lathe and some know how. The latch would sit right on top of one of the teeth when threaded on, so there was no way I was going to risk misalignment worse than it already was. I didn't change anything other than taking a thin layer off of the angled portion to let it click over that one last tooth. edit quote tree |
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That's how mine is as well...thousandths of an inch short of falling into the next "valley" of the teeth. I don't recall where I read it...and maybe AAC can speak up...but 3-4 teeth short of lockup still does not provide enough play to allow for a baffle strike. Each to his own...and it's your can and mount. I personally wouldn't have worried about it.
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I bought my 370Z only to figure out that the Sport package brakes can't take my driving style even on the street (although the tires held up great for 17K miles, and the pads themselves are great. The rotors just warp every 7-10K miles). Yeah, I could have researched more, then I would have stuck with my 'vette and just lived with the interior. Anyway, this sounds like the same thing. You wanted one, so now you got it, and the knowledge of its performance has been at your fingertips the whole time. Well, now you know. The expensive way. It's time to buy a 300 BLK and run subs.
That's what I'm going to, anyway, with all my SBR stuff. 30 cal FTW! +1 |
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i do like it, i am telling pre buyers what to expect. i know it wont be movie quiet i know i need subs, like i stated im waiting on my sub ammo i bought. iwe think its hearing safe cause to us it sounds like a shooting my. 22 pictured. i have watched many youtube and read, but none of the videos say what they compare the sound to, they just shoot. im just saying whst it sounds to my. i do plan on getting a ti phanton next. or the cyclone. It's hard to take this sentiment seriously when one starts a thread titled "sdn6 = ehh" in the suppressor forum. "Ehh" is generally reserved for when one feels ambiguous about something, not when one likes it. Yeah, I like it, don't love it. I am working on a 300blk now, I just waiting for the barrel I want to be in stock, and this one issue I have with not able to find ammo. I like suppressed rifles, but I LOVED shooting my buddy's 14.5" 300BLK subsonic with an SDN6. Pleasant and hearing safe. |
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