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Posted: 1/31/2012 5:18:09 AM EDT
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I find it a little amazing that in a little over a year since the first cartridge of .300 blackout was factory produced, the round is the most popular round on Midway USA. It has surpassed .223 which is a huge accomplishment in and of itself. I think that this speaks volumes to the increase in suppressor ownership. Most folks are buying/building a gun in this caliber to suppress it. AAC hit the ground running with this idea and I think that a big kudos is owed to them. For all of the SSK JD Jones .300Whisper guys...I am a huge fan too. This has actually brought that round some noteriaty amongst the non-hard core. AAC has managed to do with the .300blk what Mr. Jones refused to do with the .300Whisper. It has become my round of choice and I am working on another build for a T/C Contender to hopefully celebrate the silencer restrictions being removed for deer hunting in Texas next season. |
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My most recent suppressor purchase (which I am not waiting very patiently for) was a 9mm subgun can. I got it because I wanted to be able to shoot subsonic .300 Blackout through it even though my primary desire is to shoot 9mm in an AR with it. I ordered a Savage barrel in .300 Blackout on another site, threaded 1/2x36 so I don't need an adapter for my suppressor, and am still deciding on the specific rifle for it. I don't really want to chase .300 Blackout brass, and I think a bolt-action shooting subsonic will be very quiet.
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Why do we want to hunt deer w/ silencers again? We can hunt hogs w/ silencers already. I wish we could hunt with suppressors in North Carolina. The answer as to why for me is to prevent hearing damage and make less noise. |
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Quoted: Why do we want to hunt deer w/ silencers again? We can hunt hogs w/ silencers already. I want to hunt everything with a silencer. I like protecting my ears. Audiological studies have been conducted and show that in/over ear hearing protection are beneficial; however, they cannot stop all hearing damage. The only way to effectively stop hearing damage while shooting is to do it at the muzzle. If you wear hearing protection in conjunction with a suppressor, then, and only then, do you completely eliminate hearing damage. Ear muffs work in a range of reducing sound pressure from ~15-29dB. Ear plugs range from about ~14dB-33dB. No one talks about frequency. Different frequencies are handled differently by in/on ear protection. I am a spot and stalk hunter. I don't get satisfaction out of sitting over a feeder and waiting, so I need to be able to hear what is going on in my surroundings. For the guys who sit in the blinds with their kids, it is more than convenient for them too. I still cannot believe that I have to tell people on a gun forum that the law abiding gun owners should not be restricted with nebulous laws. We should be able to hunt all animals with our cans because our rights should not be restricted because we want to protect our ears. If guns were invented today, the feds would require a silencer to be purchased with every firearm due to OSHA standards. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Why do we want to hunt deer w/ silencers again? We can hunt hogs w/ silencers already. I want to hunt everything with a silencer. I like protecting my ears. Audiological studies have been conducted and show that in/over ear hearing protection are beneficial; however, they cannot stop all hearing damage. The only way to effectively stop hearing damage while shooting is to do it at the muzzle. If you wear hearing protection in conjunction with a suppressor, then, and only then, do you completely eliminate hearing damage. Ear muffs work in a range of reducing sound pressure from ~15-29dB. Ear plugs range from about ~14dB-33dB. No one talks about frequency. Different frequencies are handled differently by in/on ear protection. I am a spot and stalk hunter. I don't get satisfaction out of sitting over a feeder and waiting, so I need to be able to hear what is going on in my surroundings. For the guys who sit in the blinds with their kids, it is more than convenient for them too. I still cannot believe that I have to tell people on a gun forum that the law abiding gun owners should not be restricted with nebulous laws. We should be able to hunt all animals with our cans because our rights should not be restricted because we want to protect our ears. If guns were invented today, the feds would require a silencer to be purchased with every firearm due to OSHA standards. QFT |
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.300blk is my next build and I am waiting on approval for my SDN6 right now. Only 110 days pending, give or take.
As for "why do we want to hunt deer?" I think the answer is simple. I want to protect my hearing and I like shooting suppressed weaponry. Simple as that, really. |
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I find it a little amazing that in a little over a year since the first cartridge of .300 blackout was factory produced, the round is the most popular round on Midway USA. It has surpassed .223 which is a huge accomplishment in and of itself. I think that this speaks volumes to the increase in suppressor ownership. Most folks are buying/building a gun in this caliber to suppress it. AAC hit the ground running with this idea and I think that a big kudos is owed to them.
For all of the SSK JD Jones .300Whisper guys...I am a huge fan too. This has actually brought that round some noteriaty amongst the non-hard core. AAC has managed to do with the .300blk what Mr. Jones refused to do with the .300Whisper. It has become my round of choice and I am working on another build for a T/C Contender to hopefully celebrate the silencer restrictions being removed for deer hunting in Texas next season. It's certainly an interesting trend. I don't think most people know why they want the Whiper'ish cartridges. Suppressor users and reloaders are still a minority in the firearms market and with the flood of offerings I can't help but think the majority of the buyers are people who just want cool-ware. This seems a bit like the 3D TV craze, the technology is now available to anyone who want to produce it so the manufacturer's production is driving the trend. I do think it's going to be around for a while but I don't think the current demand will stay this high forever. |
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Quoted: I find it a little amazing that in a little over a year since the first cartridge of .300 blackout was factory produced, the round is the most popular round on Midway USA. It has surpassed .223 which is a huge accomplishment in and of itself. I think that this speaks volumes to the increase in suppressor ownership. Most folks are buying/building a gun in this caliber to suppress it. AAC hit the ground running with this idea and I think that a big kudos is owed to them. For all of the SSK JD Jones .300Whisper guys...I am a huge fan too. This has actually brought that round some noteriaty amongst the non-hard core. AAC has managed to do with the .300blk what Mr. Jones refused to do with the .300Whisper. It has become my round of choice and I am working on another build for a T/C Contender to hopefully celebrate the silencer restrictions being removed for deer hunting in Texas next season. What! I haven't heard anything about this. Do you have a link? |
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I find it a little amazing that in a little over a year since the first cartridge of .300 blackout was factory produced, the round is the most popular round on Midway USA. It has surpassed .223 which is a huge accomplishment in and of itself. I think that this speaks volumes to the increase in suppressor ownership. Most folks are buying/building a gun in this caliber to suppress it. AAC hit the ground running with this idea and I think that a big kudos is owed to them.
For all of the SSK JD Jones .300Whisper guys...I am a huge fan too. This has actually brought that round some noteriaty amongst the non-hard core. AAC has managed to do with the .300blk what Mr. Jones refused to do with the .300Whisper. It has become my round of choice and I am working on another build for a T/C Contender to hopefully celebrate the silencer restrictions being removed for deer hunting in Texas next season. What! I haven't heard anything about this. Do you have a link? Texas Parks and Wildlife is considering an administrative rule to allow suppressors for the taking of all game. Texas Parks & Wildlife Department |
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Quoted: It's certainly an interesting trend. I don't think most people know why they want the Whiper'ish cartridges. Suppressor users and reloaders are still a minority in the firearms market and with the flood of offerings I can't help but think the majority of the buyers are people who just want cool-ware. This seems a bit like the 3D TV craze, the technology is now available to anyone who want to produce it so the manufacturer's production is driving the trend. I do think it's going to be around for a while but I don't think the current demand will stay this high forever. I think that you don't realize the in-depth research that people who are buying firearms chambered .300blk (6.8, 6.5, 6mm Creedmoor, .458SOCOM, etc.) are doing. The customers that I deal with are more and more eductated everyday. I learn a lot from my customers. There may be a few guys who don't know why they want the cartridge, however, there are most likely more guys that walk into Cabelas (et.al) and buy an AR15 chambered in 5.56/.223 who have no idea why they are buying it. They will soon figure it out! |
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I find it a little amazing that in a little over a year since the first cartridge of .300 blackout was factory produced, the round is the most popular round on Midway USA. It has surpassed .223 which is a huge accomplishment in and of itself. I think that this speaks volumes to the increase in suppressor ownership. Most folks are buying/building a gun in this caliber to suppress it.
Although I agree that the 300 BLK has been a large commercial success so far, I think that your Midway USA logic is a little flawed. .223 ammunition at Midway is not that popular because their prices on bulk ammo suck. Ask Palmetto State Armory if they sell more XM193 at $5.79/box than their 300 BLK ammo. If Midway USA sold XM193 at those prices, it would blow their sales of 300 BLK out of the water, too. That "most popular" 300 BLK ammo at Midway USA is all supersonic. Personally, I'm waiting for LMT to release their 300 Whisper barrels for my MRP. I'll go with a Noveske upper if I don't like what LMT offers... either way, I'll be jumping on the 300 BLK bandwagon eventually! Oh, and God bless hunting with a suppressor. -Randy |
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It's certainly an interesting trend. I don't think most people know why they want the Whiper'ish cartridges. Suppressor users and reloaders are still a minority in the firearms market and with the flood of offerings I can't help but think the majority of the buyers are people who just want cool-ware. This seems a bit like the 3D TV craze, the technology is now available to anyone who want to produce it so the manufacturer's production is driving the trend. I do think it's going to be around for a while but I don't think the current demand will stay this high forever. I think that you don't realize the in-depth research that people who are buying firearms chambered .300blk (6.8, 6.5, 6mm Creedmoor, .458SOCOM, etc.) are doing. The customers that I deal with are more and more eductated everyday. I learn a lot from my customers. There may be a few guys who don't know why they want the cartridge, however, there are most likely more guys that walk into Cabelas (et.al) and buy an AR15 chambered in 5.56/.223 who have no idea why they are buying it. They will soon figure it out! Is the .300 viable, though, in every sense of the word? I know a 220gr subsonic will kill a deer, but it's far from optimal if it doesn't expand. Are there expanding subsonics for the .300BLK? What does it meter using supersonic ammunition? I am trying to figure out, is there a real benefit to hearing in .300BLK supersonic vs. 5.56 supersonic? |
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Would have to see pictures of this "full metal jacket" round expanded. |
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Quoted: Why do we want to hunt deer w/ silencers again? We can hunt hogs w/ silencers already. I'm guessing that you meant that sarcastically, and it didn't come across as in. Did you mean that "there is no reason to hunt deer with silencers, as it's all ready legal to hunt hogs with them, which is more entertaining" or something? |
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Would have to see pictures of this "full metal jacket" round expanded. Ask and you shall receive Thanks! Very impressive. Damn you for making me wish I could find a .300 BLK in the configuration I want :( (14.5" chrome-lined hammer forged). All it would take is a quick barrel swap and a new can and I would be in business! |
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