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Posted: 8/29/2009 1:03:36 PM EDT
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I'm in the market for another Supressor and I am having a hard time choosing between the Gemtech Outback II and the SWR Warlock. The can will be rotated between a Ruger MK II, Walther P22, and a Ruger 10/22. I am just not sure on which one to get. Any help or advise would be very helpful.
Thanx Jeff |
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The outback is truly an impressive can when you really break it down. It is barely 5.1" long and a under 3oz yet it is a top performing can. On a pistol you cant even tell it is there it is so light.
The warlock is also a great little can, but it is about .5" longer and about .5oz heavier and 25% more expensive. All that being said I think if I were mostly going to be shooting it on a pistol and I wanted the quieter one I would go with the warlock, but the smaller size of the outback would still make this a hard decision. The outback is about the same ratio quieter on a rifle as the warlock is on a pistol. This is also how it sounded to my ears. I dont know what to tell you they areboth great cans ,but I will say the outback never seizes to amaze me by its weight and size and performance level and under $300. I dont know just my 2cents. |
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I have an Outback and I am very happy with it. I did shoot a Warlock on a P22 and I thought it sounded VERY similar to the OBII. I don't see the reason to pay more for a sealed can when they sound basically the same. As happy as I am with the OB if I had to do it over, I would get the Sparrow ( I have not played with an Element yet).
Jeremy |
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Just curious as to your reasoning. I am not disagreeing or agreeing with you.I would just like you to elaborate a little more since it sounds like you have first hand knowledge of both cans. I have used and owned both before and my opinion just wouldnt quite be the same so I was just wondering how you came to your conclusion.
Warlock everyday, and twice on Sundays. |
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Is the Spectre really worth the extra cash just because you can take it apart to clean it? I only have one suppressor so far and I wish I would have done more research on it before I purchased that one.
That's the reason why I am asking questions this time. Thank you to everyone that has replied so far. Jeff |
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Is the Spectre really worth the extra cash just because you can take it apart to clean it? I only have one suppressor so far and I wish I would have done more research on it before I purchased that one. That's the reason why I am asking questions this time. Thank you to everyone that has replied so far. Jeff Yes it is worth the extra cash. I a Spectre that I purchased after I owned the Warlock (and a number of other cans). If I had it to do over, I would buy the Spectre first and be done with .22lr cans. I just cleaned my Spectre last night –– very easy with the tool available from SWR. |
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Is the Spectre really worth the extra cash just because you can take it apart to clean it? I only have one suppressor so far and I wish I would have done more research on it before I purchased that one. That's the reason why I am asking questions this time. Thank you to everyone that has replied so far. Jeff Shop around you can pickup a Spectre for a really good deal from a stocking dealer. I picked mine up last Friday and it only cost me $365 plus the transfer and tax stamp. |
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The spectre is a great can, but any can that you can take apart to clean is worth 2 or 3 outbacks or warlocks easy. I've already filled up one sealed can and had to pay $140 to have it cleaned out. I have a second that's about there and will have to be sending it to be cleaned in the next few months. So to clean my can twice, I could have bought another can, clean it 3 times and I could have bought another can and paid the tax.
You may not reach the point where the can is full for 5-10 years with low volume shooting. Hell it may take a life time to fill up. If you're like me and put 10,000 rounds through a can in a year, you'll be sending sealed cans off for cleaning every 1.5-2 years. At $150 per cleaning (once you figure in shipping) that gets expensive. Get one that you can clean. Really if you had your choice of any can out there - take a good hard look at the SilencerCo Sparrow. Most cans if you dont clean every 300-800 rounds they can't be taken apart due to build up. The sparrow can be shot for thousands before a need for cleaning due to the design of the sleeve. Hope this helps, good luck in your search =) Major Malfunction is your friend. |
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I bought a warlock back before the spectre was available. Awesome little can.
If the spectre were on the market when I got the warlock, I would have gotten the spectre. Given that Warlock and Spectre have basically the same guts and performance... the spectre is the way to go. When my warlock craps out someday, I'm getting a spectre. I would only look at the Prodigy or Element if you have money to waste and want extra small & light for a pistol. Another good one to look at is the "Elite Iron L" - A stainless take apart that metered well in testing. |
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If you live in the Phoenix area, PM me and I'll let you shoot my Outback II on my P-22 and 10/22. Maybe someone will let you shoot their Warlock.
FWIW, The Outback II is (I think) the smallest and lightest .22lr can on the market but still suppresses toward the top end. As with any purchase, especially cans, there are compromises. While the Outback II is short, thin, light (.25oz!), and very quiet, it is not supposed to be disassembled by the user and it is not rated for .22mag, .17HMR, or full auto.You should choose whatever fits your particular needs best. ETA: Just noticed you already bought. You can still shoot my can, though, if you want. |
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I've got an Outback II, Spectre and an out of production Gemtech Hornet (designed for heavy FA fire from an American 180).
For all the guns, you mentioned, the Spectre is the one I'd get as well. Note that in some cases you do want a light 22LR can. One example would be for the Advantage Arms Glock conversions. The barrel moves on those and it will not function w/ a heavy can like a Spectre or Hornet. Works fine w/ the Outback II. |
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I've got an Outback II, Spectre and an out of production Gemtech Hornet (designed for heavy FA fire from an American 180). For all the guns, you mentioned, the Spectre is the one I'd get as well. Note that in some cases you do want a light 22LR can. One example would be for the Advantage Arms Glock conversions. The barrel moves on those and it will not function w/ a heavy can like a Spectre or Hornet. Works fine w/ the Outback II. Good point, that is exactly the question I ask when people ask about hte Spectre. "Are you going to use this on an AA kit?" |
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