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3/1/2009 5:17:57 PM EDT
Hey Guys,

I've got a couple Suppressors coming soon and since I handload the Majority of my ammo, I thought that there might be some useful load data available.

I've got a 5.56, 7.62 cans on the way

The 5.56 can will be used on an AR, would be nice if it would Clycle the action and be subsonic (is that possible)

The 7.62 can will most likely be used on a PTR91,FAL Stg-58 and a M1A, Assuming it can be made to work on all 3 I know they are all different threads.

Subsonic and will Cylce the action would be Great, if impossibe so be it.

Planning on a .40 cal can in future

Jason
3/1/2009 8:08:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Do not use 7.62 subsonic in your ptr-91 if it has a fluted chamber, the bullet will not exit the barrel!  As for the other guns listed subsonic will not cycle the action.
3/1/2009 8:32:41 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Do not use 7.62 subsonic in your ptr-91 if it has a fluted chamber, the bullet will not exit the barrel!  

Why do you say that?

3/9/2009 9:36:43 PM EDT
[#3]
On HK style rifles like the G3 the flutes in the chamber allows propellent gases to escape preventing the cartridge case from sealing the breach.  This lack of pressure my result in a lodged projectile.
3/9/2009 9:58:09 PM EDT
[#4]
You need to run a stability calculator (available online in excel format) using different factors:

Bullet weight
Bullet length
Desired velocity
Barrel twist rate

All of these factors have an effect on bullet stability.

The reason is that you really don't want a wobbling unstable bullet to strike the inside of your suppressor and destroy it.

To save you some time on the .308 side: 10.0 grains of IMR Trailboss with 150gr round nose bullets (Sierras are nice) will be stable in the more common 1/10, 1/11 and 1/12 twist .308 barrels.

.308 subs that cycle a semi auto rifle?  Ain't gonna happen without seriously redoing some internals of the gun to only shoot weak subsonic ammo.

If you are going to cook your own loads, you need a chronograph.


3/10/2009 10:47:39 AM EDT
[#5]
I have been using 180gr RN and 9.8 gr of trailboss.  I have found it to be very consistant.  I have gone as high as 10.3 but the groups started to open up
3/10/2009 3:07:58 PM EDT
[#6]
Subsonic 5.56?

Its called 22LR subsonics.  You can buy them at walmart.
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