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1/6/2009 10:47:35 PM EDT
I posted this in my HTF but thought you guys might want to see it too.


I got three of my suppressor stamps Saturday:



and so today I got to try out one of the new cans. I shot the Spectre on three hosts. A Walther P-22, a Ruger MkII, and my Stinger Pengun.




First was the P-22 with a Viridan green laser. What a blast! Balanced pretty well with the Spectre (which is pretty heavy for .22 suppressors). I put a box each of CCI Stingers, Federal Standard Velocity, Remington subsonics, and Aguila Super SE Extra Subsonics through it. I have to say, throw the Aguilas in the garbage can. Very inconsistent. Some loud, some quiet and 12 out of 50 were duds. I tried reloading and re-firing them in different primer positions...nothing. DUDs. About 50% would not cycle the slide and had several jams due to failure to eject fully. The Stingers however worked every time flawlessly but pretty sure they were getting supersonic even in the short barrel because there was still a fairly loud crack with each shot. They were the loudest but they also were the most accurate and I could group around the size of a half dollar at 15 yards. They were hitting very hard too. The cheapo standard velocity Federal standard velocity were over all the best for operating and noise level combined. Had two that ejected but did not load another round and one fail to eject/jam. Sound wise was great and everything I expected from the Spectre. Very quiet! My .20 Benjamin Sheridan pellet gun is louder with 4 pumps. The Remington subsonics were a little quieter but more problematic. About 1/3 would not fully cycle the slide and/or strip a new round. Had 1 jam.




Next was the MkII. It was a 6" bull barreled model. When I had it threaded, I forgot all about telling him to cut it down to 4" to keep the ammo subsonic but the smith did a great job and I kept it that way so it was a little louder than it could have been but easily no need for ear protection even with the Stingers which I could group in a dime. This thing is a quiet little tackdriver. A little barrel heavy but not as bad as I thought it would be. It handled the subsonic loads a bit better than the P-22 but still had a few problems with them requiring some manual cocking. Again the Federal standard velocity were very quiet (Hollywood), subsonic and worked almost 100% of the time. First round pop was apparent and noticeably discernible though.




Last was the Stinger and while not practical at all, was the most fun and is STUPID QUIET. I honestly believe my Crossman 760 BB gun is louder than this thing with the subsonic Remingtons. The Stingers were louder but no sonic crack and even "kicked" a little. With no sights and holding on to the suppressor to shoot it, accuracy was non-existent at 15 yards but at 10 feet I could hit a pop can just about every time. I am sure I could pass the CCW required shooting test with it against a B-27 target though.

Had a fun day, popped a lot of little holes and I doubt any of my neighbors had a clue what I was doing. They are used to a lot more noise than that coming from my direction.

One more thing. If you are thinking about getting a .22 suppressor, I defiantly recommend getting one that comes apart for cleaning. After only about 600 rounds today this thing was filthy inside and had probably a teaspoon of powder residue and gunk I cleaned out of it. I did Militec-1 the whole thing before I started so clean up was mostly a breeze with the initial blast baffle being the most fouled (of course) but a stainless steel toothbrush and some CLP made it shine like brand new. The instructions say a little fouling will actually improve performance so you do not have to clean them real well but I am sure in time I will find that out. I do wonder what the insides of SUB_MG's Warlock looks like since it does not come apart.

Tomorrow I may take the Phantom out for a test run on the .308 barrel. I threaded a heavy .223 barrel for this Encore too. I suspect they'll be a little louder.


1/7/2009 4:14:29 AM EDT
[#1]
sweet setups.  I really like the encore.
1/7/2009 7:36:25 AM EDT
[#2]
Nice review.

Federal Subs are JUNK.

CCI Standard / Subsonic / Green Tag / Mini Mag are the best I think.
Winchester Dynapoints are very good also.
1/7/2009 8:30:20 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
sweet setups.  I really like the encore.



Oh the idea this is giving me!
1/7/2009 9:43:21 AM EDT
[#4]
If you want to shoot .22 subs try Winchester Dynapoints. Copper coated and quiet.
1/7/2009 4:42:10 PM EDT
[#5]
SWR (.22) a YHM (.308) and what is the thrid one?
1/7/2009 9:03:18 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
SWR (.22) a YHM (.308) and what is the thrid one?


AAC EVO-9

1/8/2009 8:01:26 PM EDT
[#7]
I shot the .223 barrel on the Encore today with the 7.62 Phantom.



I was thoroughly impressed! The first round pop was sharp yet not uncomfortable but the subsequent shots were remarkably quieter! Very noticable difference. No measurements though.

Cutting ~10" off the heavy barrel and adding the suppressor kept the balance very close to the same. It was a blast (or lack there of) to shoot. Me likey!

Yesterday I shot the .308 and used the oh-so-unscientific method of using a decibel meter app on my iPhone held up to my ear with the mic pointed toward the muzzle about 3 feet away and pointed downrange. 10 shots with an average reading of 101.4 dB. First round pop was again the loudest but the next shots were not as noticibly quieter as the .223 was.

Both were shot with no hearing protection and seemed quieter than an unsuppressed .22 pistol. No ringing of my ears.

All in all, I am tickled with the Phantom for a low cost, multi-caliber can. So are my neighbors. Not so much for the local coyotes though.
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