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12/28/2001 6:26:32 PM EDT
What is this stuff?  I bought a box at a gun show today.  Is it AP?  Any idea of what it'll go through????
12/28/2001 6:33:28 PM EDT
[#1]
It's M855.  It has a steel penetrator, but it's not really classified AP.  It won't really go thru much more than standard M193.
12/28/2001 6:37:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Green tip is not officially AP. If it was, we (US forces) could not use it for anti-personnel purposes as per the Geneva Convention... However, it will penetrate steel(I've seen it blow through 1/4" steel). It weighs 62 grains and was originally designed for use in the M-16
A2. It is called M-855 by the US military and is known elswhere as SS-109. Good ammo, but don't expect much in the way of accuracy through a 1/12 barrel. Through 1/7" and 1/9" it is quite accurate.
12/28/2001 7:00:43 PM EDT
[#3]
& it's 5.56mm, not .223 cal.
12/28/2001 7:16:55 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Green tip is not officially AP. If it was, we (US forces) could not use it for anti-personnel purposes as per the Geneva Convention... However, it will penetrate steel(I've seen it blow through 1/4" steel). It weighs 62 grains and was originally designed for use in the M-16
A2. It is called M-855 by the US military and is known elswhere as SS-109. Good ammo, but don't expect much in the way of accuracy through a 1/12 barrel. Through 1/7" and 1/9" it is quite accurate.



The Geneva Convention is a common misunderstanding, the Hague convention in 1899 declared so called "dum dum"(a METAL jacketed projectile with the lead core exposed on it's POINT, or the jacket weakened with slashes/incisions) projectiles forbidden, the use of AP ammunition against living force isn“t forbidden anywhere i believe.
12/28/2001 7:29:01 PM EDT
[#5]
The most commonly issued rifle ammunition during the second half of WW2 was M2 AP.  There are no treaty prohibitations against it againt personnel.

Regardless, M855 Ball isn't AP anyway.  

-- Chuck
12/29/2001 8:15:07 PM EDT
[#6]
www.ecis.com/~mraudio/AR15_Ammo_FAQ.htm

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