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Posted: 3/18/2015 11:06:38 PM EDT
| Is it legal to UPS a gun to a friend of mine in another state? I am not talking about a sale....just sending him one of my guns to use. |
NO. You would have to ship to an FFL and have your friend complete a 4473, then reverse the process to get the gun back. Makes you feel safer doesn't it 
However, if you are going there to shoot with him, you can ship it to his address but for YOUR attention; he cannot open the package however, so maybe not very helpful in this case. |
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NO. You would have to ship to an FFL and have your friend complete a 4473, then reverse the process to get the gun back. Makes you feel safer doesn't it
However, if you are going there to shoot with him, you can ship it to his address but for YOUR attention; he cannot open the package however, so maybe not very helpful in this case. Ok...no very helpful ...thanx. I live in CT and want to shoot with a friend in VT but will not drive through MA with my hand guns. Was going to get a out-of-state temporary permit but the process is a real PITA and costs 100.00. I would also have to drive up north of Boston for an interview also. I would have no problem with the 100 bucks but its only good for 1 year! I figure for the few times a year I want to go up there and shoot it would be easier and cheaper to just ship it back and forth. Do I have to put the ORM-D labels on the package? |
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Do I have to put the ORM-D labels on the package? If just a gun, then you don't have to mark the package in any way...ORM-D only refers to ammo (which presumably you can buy locally). However, shipping costs will add up fast. I would just transport the guns unloaded in my trunk, driving DIRECTLY there without stopping and without breaking any traffic laws. In the unlikely event that a MA State StormTrooper pulls you over, you can probably invoke FOPA. Post this question in the MA HTF for a more definitive answer. |
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If just a gun, then you don't have to mark the package in any way...ORM-D only refers to ammo (which presumably you can buy locally). However, shipping costs will add up fast. I would just transport the guns unloaded in my trunk, driving DIRECTLY there without stopping and without breaking any traffic laws. In the unlikely event that a MA State StormTrooper pulls you over, you can probably invoke FOPA. Post this question in the MA HTF for a more definitive answer. Quoted:
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Do I have to put the ORM-D labels on the package? If just a gun, then you don't have to mark the package in any way...ORM-D only refers to ammo (which presumably you can buy locally). However, shipping costs will add up fast. I would just transport the guns unloaded in my trunk, driving DIRECTLY there without stopping and without breaking any traffic laws. In the unlikely event that a MA State StormTrooper pulls you over, you can probably invoke FOPA. Post this question in the MA HTF for a more definitive answer. I'll tell you....I have gone back and forth with that. I know the odds of getting pulled over are small but the risk of getting some real dick of a trooper scares me. It would mean a federal charge. I would most likely win in court using FOPA defense but I cant afford the costs. If convicted I lose all my weapons for life. I am not much of a gambler so....For the two times I go up there this summer I think I will ship it back and forth. Three handguns might be about 5-6 lbs so maybe 40.00 each way. I will however carry my rifles broken down and locked up in the trunk. I have a copy of the MA statute that allows the transport of rifles/shotguns interstate. |
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I'll tell you....I have gone back and forth with that. I know the odds of getting pulled over are small but the risk of getting some real dick of a trooper scares me. It would mean a federal charge. I would most likely win in court using FOPA defense but I cant afford the costs. If convicted I lose all my weapons for life. I am not much of a gambler so....For the two times I go up there this summer I think I will ship it back and forth. Three handguns might be about 5-6 lbs so maybe 40.00 each way. I will however carry my rifles broken down and locked up in the trunk. I have a copy of the MA statute that allows the transport of rifles/shotguns interstate. Quoted:
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Do I have to put the ORM-D labels on the package? If just a gun, then you don't have to mark the package in any way...ORM-D only refers to ammo (which presumably you can buy locally). However, shipping costs will add up fast. I would just transport the guns unloaded in my trunk, driving DIRECTLY there without stopping and without breaking any traffic laws. In the unlikely event that a MA State StormTrooper pulls you over, you can probably invoke FOPA. Post this question in the MA HTF for a more definitive answer. I'll tell you....I have gone back and forth with that. I know the odds of getting pulled over are small but the risk of getting some real dick of a trooper scares me. It would mean a federal charge. I would most likely win in court using FOPA defense but I cant afford the costs. If convicted I lose all my weapons for life. I am not much of a gambler so....For the two times I go up there this summer I think I will ship it back and forth. Three handguns might be about 5-6 lbs so maybe 40.00 each way. I will however carry my rifles broken down and locked up in the trunk. I have a copy of the MA statute that allows the transport of rifles/shotguns interstate. How does it mean a federal charge? FWIW: being a man and refusing a search of your vehicle will be much easier on you then. Having any agency inquire why you shipped 3 hand guns out of state. |
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How does it mean a federal charge? FWIW: being a man and refusing a search of your vehicle will be much easier on you then. Having any agency inquire why you shipped 3 hand guns out of state. Quoted:
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Do I have to put the ORM-D labels on the package? If just a gun, then you don't have to mark the package in any way...ORM-D only refers to ammo (which presumably you can buy locally). However, shipping costs will add up fast. I would just transport the guns unloaded in my trunk, driving DIRECTLY there without stopping and without breaking any traffic laws. In the unlikely event that a MA State StormTrooper pulls you over, you can probably invoke FOPA. Post this question in the MA HTF for a more definitive answer. I'll tell you....I have gone back and forth with that. I know the odds of getting pulled over are small but the risk of getting some real dick of a trooper scares me. It would mean a federal charge. I would most likely win in court using FOPA defense but I cant afford the costs. If convicted I lose all my weapons for life. I am not much of a gambler so....For the two times I go up there this summer I think I will ship it back and forth. Three handguns might be about 5-6 lbs so maybe 40.00 each way. I will however carry my rifles broken down and locked up in the trunk. I have a copy of the MA statute that allows the transport of rifles/shotguns interstate. How does it mean a federal charge? FWIW: being a man and refusing a search of your vehicle will be much easier on you then. Having any agency inquire why you shipped 3 hand guns out of state. Why would any "agencies" be aware of me shipping a couple guns to myself at a friend address for a few day. No conspiracy. |
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The guns do not have to travel with you. It's perfectly legal to ship your own firearms to yourself in another state. You would send it via common carrier to yourself care of your friend at his address in VT. That's what I figured. Common carrier being UPS or FEDEX? No USPS Priority mail I assume? |
| If you put the guns in a shipping box, label it and add at least $0.01 of postage on it, you can transport it in your vehicle without worrying about someone finding it. It is illegal for anyone to open your mail. This is a trick that was/is used by over the road truck drivers with for self protection. I'm not saying that I recommend doing this but it would get the job done. |
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If you put the guns in a shipping box, label it and add at least $0.01 of postage on it, you can transport it in your vehicle without worrying about someone finding it. It is illegal for anyone to open your mail. This is a trick that was/is used by over the road truck drivers with for self protection. I'm not saying that I recommend doing this but it would get the job done. lol, nice |
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If you put the guns in a shipping box, label it and add at least $0.01 of postage on it, you can transport it in your vehicle without worrying about someone finding it. It is illegal for anyone to open your mail. This is a trick that was/is used by over the road truck drivers with for self protection. I'm not saying that I recommend doing this but it would get the job done. That's a pretty neat idea. Print up a usps priority label and slap it on the box. The MA state police cant open US mail...Right?? |
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If you put the guns in a shipping box, label it and add at least $0.01 of postage on it, you can transport it in your vehicle without worrying about someone finding it. It is illegal for anyone to open your mail. This is a trick that was/is used by over the road truck drivers with for self protection. I'm not saying that I recommend doing this but it would get the job done. Sounds good in principle but LE can open anything they want. At that rate I could transport my gun in a locked gun safe. All they need is a warrant to get into anything they want. If I had a small gun safe in my trunk and they said to open it and I said I don't think so.....I have no doubts at that point they would get a warrant. |
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Forgot about that. But....how would they know whats in a package if I were to ship it standard ground? Quoted:
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Remember that Fedex/UPS policy dictates that you may only ship handguns via their Next Day Air services... the most expensive. Forgot about that. But....how would they know whats in a package if I were to ship it standard ground? What happens is they deny the insurance claim when it goes missing or is damaged. |
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Remember that Fedex/UPS policy dictates that you may only ship handguns via their Next Day Air services... the most expensive. Forgot about that. But....how would they know whats in a package if I were to ship it standard ground? What happens is they deny the insurance claim when it goes missing or is damaged. Well...that is a risk I guess. |
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Let's actually take a look at the law for a minute. The Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 (which is also the Act Reagan, one of the most anti-gun Republicans ever, signed that banned the manufacture and sale of new machine guns in the US) provided for a "safe passage" provision to allow persons to travel from one state where they could legally possess a firearm through another state or local jurisdiction where they could not legally possess a firearms to a state where they could legally possess a firearm.
18 U.S.C. United States Code, 2011 Edition Title 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I - CRIMES CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS Sec. 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms From the U.S. Government Printing Office, www.gpo.gov §926A. Interstate transportation of firearms Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. (Added Pub. L. 99–360, §1(a), July 8, 1986, 100 Stat. 766.) Prior Provisions A prior section 926A, added Pub. L. 99–308, §107(a), May 19, 1986, 100 Stat. 460, provided that any person not prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm be entitled to transport an unloaded, not readily accessible firearm in interstate commerce notwithstanding any provision of any legislation enacted, or rule or regulation prescribed by any State or political subdivision thereof, prior to repeal by Pub. L. 99–360, §1(a). Effective Date Section effective on date on which Firearms Owners’ Protection Act, Pub. L. 99–308, became effective, see section 2 of Pub. L. 99–360, set out as an Effective Date of 1986 Amendments note under section 921 of this title. ------ The key points here are that you can transport a firearm to be used for a lawful purpose from one state where you can legally possess it to a destination state where you can legally possess it, through a state where you can't legally possess it, provided that: 1. the firearm is unloaded 2. neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle, and 3. in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console, AND 4. you stay on a direct route through the prohibited state, generally meaning only stopping for food, gas, or in a large state perhaps an overnight stay for rest along your direct route of travel, 5. while not incurring any unnecessary delay, deviating from a direct route, playing tourist, etc. That will cover you driving through MA on your way to a destination where you can legally possess a firearm. 18 USC 926A The reality here is also that if you don't present probable cause, an LEO has no reason or means to legally stop you, so check your lights, turn signals etc and obey the speed limit, don't weave, etc, and you have nothing to worry about. Even in you do get stopped, you're covered by the law. In the event you get stopped by a an LEO who is either a jerk, or just ignorant of the law, hand him a copy of the law. If he still does not get it, don't resist arrest, just go down town and let someone with more brains figure it out. They won't be able to make a charge stick for the pass through, but if you resist arrest, etc, they will make that charge stick. ----- As noted above you can ship long arms to yourself at your destination. Just address it to the destination in care of yourself. For a handgun however, you have to ship them by common carrier, and you have to send them no slower than second day air. Shipping a handgun second day air will probably cost you on the order of $75-$80 via UPS or Fed Ex, unless you have a commercial account and can get a commercial rate. |
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Let's actually take a look at the law for a minute. The Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 (which is also the Act Reagan, one of the most anti-gun Republicans ever, signed that banned the manufacture and sale of new machine guns in the US) provided for a "safe passage" provision to allow persons to travel from one state where they could legally possess a firearm through another state or local jurisdiction where they could not legally possess a firearms to a state where they could legally possess a firearm. 18 U.S.C. United States Code, 2011 Edition Title 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I - CRIMES CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS Sec. 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms From the U.S. Government Printing Office, www.gpo.gov §926A. Interstate transportation of firearms Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. (Added Pub. L. 99–360, §1(a), July 8, 1986, 100 Stat. 766.) Prior Provisions A prior section 926A, added Pub. L. 99–308, §107(a), May 19, 1986, 100 Stat. 460, provided that any person not prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm be entitled to transport an unloaded, not readily accessible firearm in interstate commerce notwithstanding any provision of any legislation enacted, or rule or regulation prescribed by any State or political subdivision thereof, prior to repeal by Pub. L. 99–360, §1(a). Effective Date Section effective on date on which Firearms Owners’ Protection Act, Pub. L. 99–308, became effective, see section 2 of Pub. L. 99–360, set out as an Effective Date of 1986 Amendments note under section 921 of this title. ------ The key points here are that you can transport a firearm to be used for a lawful purpose from one state where you can legally possess it to a destination state where you can legally possess it, through a state where you can't legally possess it, provided that: 1. the firearm is unloaded 2. neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle, and 3. in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console, AND 4. you stay on a direct route through the prohibited state, generally meaning only stopping for food, gas, or in a large state perhaps an overnight stay for rest along your direct route of travel, 5. while not incurring any unnecessary delay, deviating from a direct route, playing tourist, etc. That will cover you driving through MA on your way to a destination where you can legally possess a firearm. 18 USC 926A The reality here is also that if you don't present probable cause, an LEO has no reason or means to legally stop you, so check your lights, turn signals etc and obey the speed limit, don't weave, etc, and you have nothing to worry about. Even in you do get stopped, you're covered by the law. In the event you get stopped by a an LEO who is either a jerk, or just ignorant of the law, hand him a copy of the law. If he still does not get it, don't resist arrest, just go down town and let someone with more brains figure it out. They won't be able to make a charge stick for the pass through, but if you resist arrest, etc, they will make that charge stick. ----- As noted above you can ship long arms to yourself at your destination. Just address it to the destination in care of yourself. For a handgun however, you have to ship them by common carrier, and you have to send them no slower than second day air. Shipping a handgun second day air will probably cost you on the order of $75-$80 via UPS or Fed Ex, unless you have a commercial account and can get a commercial rate. I am fully aware of FOPA. Unfortunately MA does not recognize FOPA. Their statutes are very clear regarding possession of a handgun, despite for the purpose of traveling thru the state. The statutes make no allowance for or even mention FOPA. I understand that the odds of being stopped and searched are extremely small but they are not 0%. Should it occur, I do not have the means nor the inclination or fortitude it would require to endure defending myself in a MA court. I do not believe that a copy of FOPA would buy me much...in fact it just might just serve to really piss them off. I never met a cop that liked being told the law! 
I have no doubt I would be exonerated but it would be an ordeal I just don't think I want to endure. |
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If you put the guns in a shipping box, label it and add at least $0.01 of postage on it, you can transport it in your vehicle without worrying about someone finding it. It is illegal for anyone to open your mail. This is a trick that was/is used by over the road truck drivers with for self protection. I'm not saying that I recommend doing this but it would get the job done. Old wives tale. If Johnny Law wants to look in your box he's going to do it postage or not. |
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Why not just disassemble them, lock them in a case, and refuse any search? I can't imagine any scenario in which doing the previous would get you arrested. How do you believe refusing a search of a locked safe help me? All that will do is to ensure that their interest in that safe will grow exponentially. They will at that point really want to know what's in it and detain me until they can obtain a search warrant for it which means my trip will be suspended for a undetermined amount of time at the very least. |
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Quoted: How do you believe refusing a search of a locked safe help me? All that will do is to ensure that their interest in that safe will grow exponentially. They will at that point really want to know what's in it and detain me until they can obtain a search warrant for it which means my trip will be suspended for a undetermined amount of time at the very least. Quoted: Quoted: Why not just disassemble them, lock them in a case, and refuse any search? I can't imagine any scenario in which doing the previous would get you arrested. How do you believe refusing a search of a locked safe help me? All that will do is to ensure that their interest in that safe will grow exponentially. They will at that point really want to know what's in it and detain me until they can obtain a search warrant for it which means my trip will be suspended for a undetermined amount of time at the very least. What would their probable cause for a search warrant be? You're going to spend ~$100 to ship handguns to yourself in another state when you could take them with you for free? |
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Why not just disassemble them, lock them in a case, and refuse any search? I can't imagine any scenario in which doing the previous would get you arrested. How do you believe refusing a search of a locked safe help me? All that will do is to ensure that their interest in that safe will grow exponentially. They will at that point really want to know what's in it and detain me until they can obtain a search warrant for it which means my trip will be suspended for a undetermined amount of time at the very least. What would their probable cause for a search warrant be? You're going to spend ~$100 to ship handguns to yourself in another state when you could take them with you for free? As far as I am concerned a LEO will find probable cause if he really wants to...we all know that. I am not worried about the majority of them..just that one who is determined to be a dick for whatever reason. Maybe he is having a crappy day....the wife just left him...who knows. |
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Yes, they have to ship to another FFL unless you ship them to yourself. Quoted:
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I had another thought...what if I had my FFL ship my hand guns to my friend? They don't necessarily have to ship to another FFL right? Yes, they have to ship to another FFL unless you ship them to yourself. So...if I read this correctly....I can have my FFL ship my package to myself at my friends address?? Yes/no?? |
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I had another thought...what if I had my FFL ship my hand guns to my friend? They don't necessarily have to ship to another FFL right? Yes, they have to ship to another FFL unless you ship them to yourself. So...if I read this correctly....I can have my FFL ship my package to myself at my friends address?? Yes/no?? <----FFL No, your FFL cannot ship interstate to a nonlicensee. |
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The guns do not have to travel with you. It's perfectly legal to ship your own firearms to yourself in another state. You would send it via common carrier to yourself care of your friend at his address in VT. +1 If your intent is to give it to him its illegal But if you're shipping it to yourself its not Just make sure its a legal firearm in that state PS Not a lawyer and have no legal background |
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The guns do not have to travel with you. It's perfectly legal to ship your own firearms to yourself in another state. You would send it via common carrier to yourself care of your friend at his address in VT. Neither FedEx or UPS tariffs permit a nonlicensee to nonlicensee firearm shipment. |
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So...if I read this correctly....I can have my FFL ship my package to myself at my friends address?? Yes/no?? Quoted:
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I had another thought...what if I had my FFL ship my hand guns to my friend? They don't necessarily have to ship to another FFL right? Yes, they have to ship to another FFL unless you ship them to yourself. So...if I read this correctly....I can have my FFL ship my package to myself at my friends address?? Yes/no?? NO you cannot. Do you even have a clue what is and isn't legal when it comes to transporting and or shipping of firearms interstate. You keep looking for ways around the answers given. Give it up . |
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NO you cannot. Do you even have a clue what is and isn't legal when it comes to transporting and or shipping of firearms interstate. You keep looking for ways around the answers given. Give it up . Quoted:
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I had another thought...what if I had my FFL ship my hand guns to my friend? They don't necessarily have to ship to another FFL right? Yes, they have to ship to another FFL unless you ship them to yourself. So...if I read this correctly....I can have my FFL ship my package to myself at my friends address?? Yes/no?? NO you cannot. Do you even have a clue what is and isn't legal when it comes to transporting and or shipping of firearms interstate. You keep looking for ways around the answers given. Give it up . Hey...if I knew what was and was not legal regarding shipping a hand gun you would not even be reading this thread wiseass. 
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Hey...if I knew what was and was not legal regarding shipping a hand gun you would not even be reading this thread wiseass.
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I had another thought...what if I had my FFL ship my hand guns to my friend? They don't necessarily have to ship to another FFL right? Yes, they have to ship to another FFL unless you ship them to yourself. So...if I read this correctly....I can have my FFL ship my package to myself at my friends address?? Yes/no?? NO you cannot. Do you even have a clue what is and isn't legal when it comes to transporting and or shipping of firearms interstate. You keep looking for ways around the answers given. Give it up . Hey...if I knew what was and was not legal regarding shipping a hand gun you would not even be reading this thread wiseass.
But thanx for your help. IF you did some leg work and actually checked the shippers requirements you'd have your answers, Idiot. But you go ahead and keep asking till someone tells you it's ok to do it the way You Want to. Since you're afraid to transport them locked / secured in your vehicle. Pay the fee and be done with it. http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/guidelines/firearms.html http://www.fedex.com/us/freight/rulestariff/prohibited_articles.html |
| A small waterproof container(s) mounted under your vehicle, problem solved. I grew up in NH, about 5 miles from the Mass border and everyone around here knows that the Mass LEOs love to search vehicles for no reason at all. However, I've yet to see one crawling around the ground looking under a vehicle. |
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How about everyone just stop and take a step back.
This is the official position of the ATF: 6. May I lawfully ship a firearm to myself in a different State? Any person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in the care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner “in the care of” the out-of-State resident. Upon reaching its destination, persons other than the owner must not open the package or take possession of the firearm. That's your answer OP. |
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How about everyone just stop and take a step back. This is the official position of the ATF: That's your answer OP. Quoted:
How about everyone just stop and take a step back. This is the official position of the ATF: 6. May I lawfully ship a firearm to myself in a different State? Any person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in the care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner “in the care of” the out-of-State resident. Upon reaching its destination, persons other than the owner must not open the package or take possession of the firearm. That's your answer OP. Didn't read the thread did you? 
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How about everyone just stop and take a step back. This is the official position of the ATF: 6. May I lawfully ship a firearm to myself in a different State? Any person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in the care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner “in the care of” the out-of-State resident. Upon reaching its destination, persons other than the owner must not open the package or take possession of the firearm. That's your answer OP. Didn't read the thread did you?
Only read the last page where op asked about shipping to himself in another state, but reading the first post, I now see op's intent is to transfer the gun to someone else... 
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How about everyone just stop and take a step back. This is the official position of the ATF: 6. May I lawfully ship a firearm to myself in a different State? Any person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in the care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner “in the care of” the out-of-State resident. Upon reaching its destination, persons other than the owner must not open the package or take possession of the firearm. That's your answer OP. Didn't read the thread did you?
Only read the last page where op asked about shipping to himself in another state, but reading the first post, I now see op's intent is to transfer the gun to someone else... You are correct. My sole intent is to have my firearm where I want it. My OP asked about shipping to a friend which apparently was not the right question. I am not transferring ownership to my friend. I just want to be able to have my gun at his location for me to use and then ship it back home. maleante - thanx for the info. |
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MA is only 50 miles max from north to south boarders. You can drive completely through it in less than an hour. Just lock'em in the trunk and go, it ain't all that. This, just remember FOPA does not cover magazine/ ammo. With MA laws on 10+ round mags and ammo I would bring nothing with 10 or more rounds and buy ammo up in VT. |
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