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3/6/2009 9:50:11 PM EDT
Got this at the fun show and cleaned it up re oiled the wood, and took it over to a friends house to check zero after I had a gunsmith check the barrel.  The barrel is a 10/44 H.S. while the gun is a 1942 Remington 03. So the gun has been re-arsenal after the war because the barrel check like new and looks like new. well shooting it at 50 yards the POI was 6-8 inches high, but after flipping up the site and putting the peep hole sight on 100yards it is dead on at that distance.. My question is the sight you use when folded down some kind of battle sight?



3/7/2009 5:09:08 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes it is but I do not know what battlesite range it was made for… Guess would be 250 yards
3/7/2009 6:13:33 AM EDT
[#2]
The battle sight was supposed to put you on a Man sizrd target out to 485 yards, if I remember correctly.  

This was very much in keeping with early 20th century thinking.  All of the old Mausers, Mosins, and other battle rifles are set up like that.
Look at the ladder sight with graduations out to 2800 yards.

You can use the ladder sight, or put on a taller front sight (have fun finding one).  I use the peep on the ladder.
3/7/2009 6:15:29 AM EDT
[#3]
The folded sight is the "battle sight"  It is set for different ranges depending on year of manufacture (and height of front sight blade).  The average battle sight range was about 380 yards, some were a little longer some were a little shorter.  

I recommend picking one weight or type of ammo and zeroing the sights to that.  Do not use 50 yards, use a minimum 100 yard range.  Lift up the sight leaf and set it at "1" (for 100 yards).  Shoot a group and file the front sight down if it hits too low.  If it hits too high either live with it or try a different bullet weight.  I also recommend running a drill bit through the aperture, I like to make mine a little bigger because the aperture is so far away from your eye.
3/7/2009 7:34:39 AM EDT
[#4]
Don't be in too big of a hurry to apply cutting tools like drills and files to your sights.

Understand the purpose of the battle sight.  Understand the correct use of the ladder sight.  It is adjustable, and can be made to be correct without cutting anything.

The sights are very accurate and can be finely adjusted.  They are a little tricky and not modern.

Just don't bubba the gun to get it to hit at 50 yards.
3/7/2009 6:44:10 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Don't be in too big of a hurry to apply cutting tools like drills and files to your sights.

Understand the purpose of the battle sight.  Understand the correct use of the ladder sight.  It is adjustable, and can be made to be correct without cutting anything.

The sights are very accurate and can be finely adjusted.  They are a little tricky and not modern.

Just don't bubba the gun to get it to hit at 50 yards.




+1,

blacken the front (use a smoker or a match), it will help,

and if you need fine adjustment for the rear, find a PJ Ohare sight micrometer, or I think RayVin makes a modern version of one,

they work great on 03's, neat tool to have,

and FWIW all mine like ball, (150ish gr) but a couple really like 168 SMK and/or USGI AP
3/7/2009 8:16:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Find an owner's manual. Really.
3/9/2009 7:50:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Don't be in too big of a hurry to apply cutting tools like drills and files to your sights.

Understand the purpose of the battle sight.  Understand the correct use of the ladder sight.  It is adjustable, and can be made to be correct without cutting anything.

The sights are very accurate and can be finely adjusted.  They are a little tricky and not modern.

Just don't bubba the gun to get it to hit at 50 yards.



Bubba???  Opening up the aperture on the ladder is what the Marine's did to make the sight useable in the field.  Get a copy of Brophy's book on the 1903.  And adjusting the height of the front sight blade is how all iron sights with rear yardage graduations are brought to zero.  That is why the 03 front blades were available in different heights.  That is why an AR15 has an adjustable front sight...  An M1 Garand or M14 doesn't need it because the rear sight yardage graduations can be changed once the sight is zeroed.

3/9/2009 12:37:03 PM EDT
[#8]
With the rear sight flat, the v-notch battle sight is set for 547 yards.
3/9/2009 7:44:56 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Don't be in too big of a hurry to apply cutting tools like drills and files to your sights.

Understand the purpose of the battle sight.  Understand the correct use of the ladder sight.  It is adjustable, and can be made to be correct without cutting anything.

The sights are very accurate and can be finely adjusted.  They are a little tricky and not modern.

Just don't bubba the gun to get it to hit at 50 yards.



Bubba???  Opening up the aperture on the ladder is what the Marine's did to make the sight useable in the field.  Get a copy of Brophy's book on the 1903.  And adjusting the height of the front sight blade is how all iron sights with rear yardage graduations are brought to zero.  That is why the 03 front blades were available in different heights.  That is why an AR15 has an adjustable front sight...  An M1 Garand or M14 doesn't need it because the rear sight yardage graduations can be changed once the sight is zeroed.





+1 on Brophy's book, great reference,  

as is Crossman's  and for shit's and giggles, get Hatcher's notebook,

3/10/2009 7:09:49 AM EDT
[#10]
If you send me an email I've got the original manual in .pdf.
3/10/2009 10:41:43 AM EDT
[#11]
Thanks for all the info, Just sent my email to you BCW107, another question I have is it worth looking for a Springfield Sight Micrometer, I know some companies are making reproduction ones for $100. I am hoping to try this rifle at 600 yards if the local gun club gets the land its looking at.
3/10/2009 12:32:32 PM EDT
[#12]
you will only be competetive at 600 yards if you have a sight micrometer.  100 or maybe 200 yards you could fat finger it but 600...1 or 2 minute change...no way without the micrometer.  Please post a link to the repro micrometers.
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