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7/6/2008 3:25:43 AM EDT
Anyone have the scoop on Ruger's plans to join the AR15 crowd?
7/5/2008 3:06:03 PM EDT
[#1]
you made me aware of it just now.
7/5/2008 3:07:45 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Anyone have the scoop on Ruger's plans to join the AR15 crowd?

I think you are pulling my leg!
Tommy T.
7/5/2008 3:08:44 PM EDT
[#3]
If Ruger makes it, it will weigh 18lbs. be inaccurate, and only come with a 10 round mag.
7/5/2008 3:09:40 PM EDT
[#4]
and have a safety manual stamped on the barrel.
7/5/2008 3:10:47 PM EDT
[#5]
this should be good
7/5/2008 3:13:05 PM EDT
[#6]
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If Ruger makes it, it will weigh 18lbs. be inaccurate, and only come with a 10 round mag.hey
if they only sold stripped uppers and lowers, i'd consider buying a set.  how cool would it look to have the SturmRuger logo and phenoix (i think...) straddleing the upper and lower, like a noveske?

keep in mind, i'd only buy one if the reviews were great.
7/5/2008 3:14:29 PM EDT
[#7]

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and have a safety manual stamped on the barrel.




Too True.  I don't have much faith in Ruger after Bill died, come tho think of it I wasn't that proud before then either.  Their failure of the mini's kind of left me looking for another manufactur.  I do have several 10-22s and I am still in the market for a MK2, but the rest of their lineup disappoints me.
7/5/2008 3:16:30 PM EDT
[#8]

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If Ruger makes it, it will weigh 18lbs. be inaccurate, and only come with a 10 round mag.


very true. the mini 14 sucks so now they are going to make an AR
7/5/2008 3:18:42 PM EDT
[#9]
You'll probably have to load them by lifting up the upper and putting 10 rounds in the magwell with a sealed bottom, then closing the AR

Actually I know nothing about Ruger, lots of companies getting into ARs, so it wouldn't be a shock, they seem a little less PC these days, with the little 45 and the little 380.
7/5/2008 3:41:49 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If Ruger makes it, it will weigh 18lbs. be inaccurate, and only come with a 10 round mag.


now now... they did get the 10/22 and mk2 right after a few tries.  if only the same could be said about almost every other product... beautiful guns, just not very shootable (except the 2 mentioned).

if they only sold stripped uppers and lowers, i'd consider buying a set.  how cool would it look to have the SturmRuger logo and phenoix (i think...) straddleing the upper and lower, like a noveske?

keep in mind, i'd only buy one if the reviews were great.


Then they had to screw them up with the MKIII mods and plastic trigger housings for the 10/22.
7/5/2008 3:51:09 PM EDT
[#11]
The Vaqueros are nice and I have a 10/22T w/ stainless barrel that is superb....I did have to rebuild the stock trigger cause it sucked.....but it will hold groups at 75 yds that you can cover with a sweet pea.

The P-85 I had sucked and the mini I had sucked......outside of that, I think I'll pass on any AR they squirt out.
7/5/2008 3:51:56 PM EDT
[#12]
if they do will it accept GI mags,or will they not trust us common folk with 20 or 30 round mags?  I have not forgotten William B rugers dirty deeds of the past and even though he's long gone it leaves a foul stench in the air .
7/5/2008 3:53:57 PM EDT
[#13]

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If Ruger makes it, it will weigh 18lbs. be inaccurate, and only come with a 10 round mag.


And the mag would be proprietary, not NATO/STANAG.


Quoted:
and have a safety manual stamped on the barrel.




That's the nice thing about my ARs is that they don't have stupid warnings all over them.


Quoted:

now now... they did get the 10/22 and mk2 right after a few tries.  if only the same could be said about almost every other product... beautiful guns, just not very shootable (except the 2 mentioned).

if they only sold stripped uppers and lowers, i'd consider buying a set.  how cool would it look to have the SturmRuger logo and phenoix (i think...) straddleing the upper and lower, like a noveske?

keep in mind, i'd only buy one if the reviews were great.




The name alone, much less their logo just completely brings up too many bad memories, regardless of whatever they might do currently or in the future.

7/5/2008 4:02:19 PM EDT
[#14]
But they might put it in walnut furniture.
7/5/2008 4:03:39 PM EDT
[#15]

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If Ruger makes it, it will weigh 18lbs. be inaccurate, and only come with a 10 round mag.



...and be cast.



Bill
7/5/2008 4:09:09 PM EDT
[#16]
Lots of potential here.



For this thread to go wrong! I'm in on the first page.

And there's no way I'd buy one if they did come out.
7/5/2008 4:29:51 PM EDT
[#17]

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If Ruger makes it, it will weigh 18lbs. be inaccurate, and only come with a 10 round mag.


Don't foreget the 9 pound trigger with a 1/4" of creep.
7/5/2008 4:32:19 PM EDT
[#18]
Is it April? April Fools?

I doubt they'll make an AR. Ruger's quite a bit against EBR's and such.
7/5/2008 4:42:48 PM EDT
[#19]

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Is it April? April Fools?

I doubt they'll make an AR. Ruger's quite a bit against EBR's and such.


Bill is dead.  

The carrier will be cast steel along with the bolt and barrel extension.  It would take Mini 14 mags.  
7/5/2008 4:48:14 PM EDT
[#20]
I know Remington's makin' one.  But hadn't heard about Ruger gettin' into it.  If they do it'll be because of the suckage factor in the Mini 14, and they'd wanna get in on the market for a decent self-loading rifle, of which they as yet have had none.......
7/5/2008 5:13:32 PM EDT
[#21]
They need to take Charles Daly's lead and come here for some feedback on what an AR should be.
7/5/2008 5:37:15 PM EDT
[#22]
Where will they put the trigger lock?

Will it have the shoulder thing that goes up?

Will Senator McCarthy name her next AWB after it, like HB-1022?
7/5/2008 5:49:10 PM EDT
[#23]
That's been the rumor but nothing substantial

Ruger is a bit of a different company now that it is run buy people who's main interest is making money and not political statements
7/5/2008 5:52:01 PM EDT
[#24]
The whole receiver will probably be filled with warnings about safety, instructions on how to get an owners manual and the MSDS sheets on every possible cleaning solvent.  Of course, it will have three trigger locks and won't fire unless you have a magazine inserted and click your heels three times while simultaneously turning three keys in the magwell.  It will also take 3 hours to take down.
7/5/2008 5:56:05 PM EDT
[#25]

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if they do will it accept GI mags,or will they not trust us common folk with 20 or 30 round mags?  I have not forgotten William B rugers dirty deeds of the past and even though he's long gone it leaves a foul stench in the air .


AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PursuitSS
7/5/2008 6:16:24 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
They need to take Charles Daly's lead and come here for some feedback on what an AR should be.


I have been very impressed with the few I have seen, and I have read some reviews posted by people I trust.

I'm seriously considering one of their uppers.
7/5/2008 6:21:04 PM EDT
[#27]
It will be the only Control Round Feed AR on the market, and will be the standard by which all Fudd's judge every other AR-15!

- Clint
7/5/2008 6:22:51 PM EDT
[#28]

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It will be the only Control Round Feed AR on the market, and will be the standard by which all Fudd's judge every other AR-15!

- Clint


Ruger seems to have come around.

They aren't marketing the pure Fudd market like they were. They have introduced several new firearms, that go against their former, flawed, policy.

I'm amazed at any modern firearm manufacturer that doesn't have an AR line.

ARs are some money makers.
7/5/2008 6:30:37 PM EDT
[#29]
Ruger is too big for the AR15 market. They are going after the Big 3!

vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1083901/index.htm
7/5/2008 6:48:18 PM EDT
[#30]
Bill is dead.
The current Mini-14 models include a 16" carbine and 20rd magazines.


However, I'm surprised Ruger would go into the AR market that is direct competition to the Mini-14.
7/5/2008 6:49:19 PM EDT
[#31]

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Ruger seems to have come around.

They aren't marketing the pure Fudd market like they were. They have introduced several new firearms, that go against their former, flawed, policy.



They have?

How about you go down to your local gun shop and place an order for a Mini-14 with the factory folding stock and three or four 30  round FACTORY RUGER BRAND magazines.

OH! Your not a Law Enforcement Agency? Sorry, you CAN'T have them!

PursuitSS
7/5/2008 6:54:29 PM EDT
[#32]
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Quoted:However, I'm surprised Ruger would go into the AR market that is direct competition to the Mini-14.hinking.gif


competition?  what competition?there is NOTHING, nothing that the mini does that the ar cant surpass five fold.  hehe
7/5/2008 7:01:15 PM EDT
[#33]

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Bill is dead.
The current Mini-14 models include a 16" carbine and 20rd magazines.
www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/images/Products/366L.jpg

However, I'm surprised Ruger would go into the AR market that is direct competition to the Mini-14.


Say again?



They haven't even bothered to maintain production or quality of their Mini-14 line.

If they actually kept their ear to the ground Butler Creek wouldn't be alone in raking in so much dough for replacement folding stocks for their rifles.
7/5/2008 7:07:03 PM EDT
[#34]
Rumor has it that Ruger already made AR-15 receivers 15-20 years ago -- for Essential Arms.
7/5/2008 7:08:42 PM EDT
[#35]
well if it is true old bill the back stabber must be turning in his grave
7/5/2008 7:19:34 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If Ruger makes it, it will weigh 18lbs. be inaccurate, and only come with a 10 round mag.


now now... they did get the 10/22 and mk2 right after a few tries.  


and then they fucked up the mk2 by making the mk3
7/5/2008 7:26:57 PM EDT
[#37]

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That's been the rumor but nothing substantial

Ruger is a bit of a different company now that it is run buy people who's main interest is making money and not political statements


If their main interest was making money they would have jumped all ower the CCW market like a cop on donuts years ago. Or maybe sold factory 20 and 30 round mags for the Mini-14 and the Mini-30.

I seriously doubt that Ruger will get into the black rifle  business.
7/5/2008 7:35:22 PM EDT
[#38]
A Ruger AR? Sure, why not? The more the merrier. They will need to keep the Mini for our oppressed friends behind the wall.
7/5/2008 7:45:51 PM EDT
[#39]

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But they might put it in walnut furniture.


and only accept Mini-14 mags
7/5/2008 7:53:18 PM EDT
[#40]
Bill is dead.  Ruger seems to be turning a new leaf with some of it's recent offerings.  Plus there was a stockholder's meeting or the like a while back where they were pining over their not getting into the AR field.  

I'd rather see them fix the mini and be a little freer with the goods for it than see them jump into the AR market.  Their last attempt at trying to fix the Mini (that target behemoth looking thing) just looked like someone at the helm had no freaking clue.

Come on Ruger, break out the goods.  Folding/collapsing stocks, better barrels, 20rd mags that don't cost $50 a pop, and some 30rders.  Maybe try to machine a part or two, casting can only go so far.
7/5/2008 8:18:06 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Ruger seems to have come around.

They aren't marketing the pure Fudd market like they were. They have introduced several new firearms, that go against their former, flawed, policy.



They have?

How about you go down to your local gun shop and place an order for a Mini-14 with the factory folding stock and three or four 30  round FACTORY RUGER BRAND magazines.

OH! Your not a Law Enforcement Agency? Sorry, you CAN'T have them!

PursuitSS


LE can't buy new 30 rounders nor a factory folder since they don't make either one anymore.

Things are changing at Ruger. I'm not running to pay $800 for an NRA model, but they are coming around since Bill Ruger passed away.
7/5/2008 9:51:29 PM EDT
[#42]
7/5/2008 10:03:08 PM EDT
[#43]
I will say one thing about Ruger. They make some damn durable firearms. I think they should get into the .50 market.
7/5/2008 10:21:44 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That's been the rumor but nothing substantial

Ruger is a bit of a different company now that it is run buy people who's main interest is making money and not political statements


If their main interest was making money they would have jumped all ower the CCW market like a cop on donuts years ago. Or maybe sold factory 20 and 30 round mags for the Mini-14 and the Mini-30.

I seriously doubt that Ruger will get into the black rifle  business.


They are doing those things now. Its not  family owned business anymore.
7/5/2008 10:29:02 PM EDT
[#45]
They are going to corner the California market...







7/5/2008 10:29:52 PM EDT
[#46]
If this is true, it's full of .  
7/5/2008 10:33:49 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
Anyone have the scoop on Ruger's plans to join the AR15 crowd?


Yes.

It will utilize an 18" 1 in 24 twist barrel, a walnut stock, and will come standard with a three round magazine.

Also, it will be made of blued steel and weigh 14 pounds.

It is guaranteed to shoot 8" groups out of the box unless you buy the version with the barrel-accuracy-thing-harmonic-twist-gayness.

Also, it will look just like a Kel-tec P3AT.
7/5/2008 10:38:47 PM EDT
[#48]

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They haven't even bothered to maintain production or quality of their Mini-14 line.


You obviously haven't had the pleasure of firing the new MOA accurate Mini-14s..

You can take the harmonic dampener off if you dislike the looks and it should still shoot respecfully.....
7/5/2008 10:54:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Another AR brand and a Ruger to boot.

The 10/22 and MK2 were the only good things to come out of Ruger and they managed to screw them up recently so I have little hope for a decent AR from them. It will probably have a thumbhole stock, 1/14 barrel for shooting ultralight varmint loads, non GI mag well with 5 round mags, and as other posters have stated about seven paragraphs of saftey warnings stamped on it.
7/5/2008 11:04:53 PM EDT
[#50]
Uh...I like my Mini-14. (The AR is more accurate but the Mini is also fun to shoot)

My Vaquero is beautifully built and performs flawlessly.  My M77 in .338 will rock the arm but pretty much drive tacks.  And my brother has a No 1 in .458 Win Mag that I have been trying to trade him out of for ages.

Old Bill was a dick on many levels, especially to this crowd, but I just can't hate an American company that makes firearms.  Surely they may redeem themselves from their past sins, can't they?

I forgave S&W when ownership changed hands and I think that with Bill Sr. out of the captain's chair Ruger will have a different attitude toward civilians.

Of course, I could be wrong, in which case --  the Zumbo Protocol.
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