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7/29/2006 1:45:52 PM EDT
I heard a rumor that my employer may issue Sig carbines to certain employee's.

All I know about them is that they are similar in appearence to AR's and they take AR mags.   Comments?

I am not sure what reason anyone would choose any carbine over an AR, especially since there are companies like RRA and Lewis Machine and Tool right here in my own state.  

By the way- a free plug for one of those Illinois companies: RRA has treated its customers like gold here.  I also know for a fact that under certain circumstances they repaired other manufacturers weapons so a person who carries that weapon for a living won't be without it.  They won over many lifetime customers with that kind of policy.  What an awesome bunch of people.

dg.

7/29/2006 1:45:31 PM EDT
[#1]
Moving this to the appropriate forum.

Im not doing this to be an idiot, just doing it because the Arms and Tactics is the spot for non AR related questions. I'm look forward to the Sig 5.56 coming out.
7/29/2006 2:01:55 PM EDT
[#2]
 The SIG 556 is the civvie legal version of the SIG 552.  It is said to be as accurate as an AR and the 550 series has been lusted after by American shooters since it came out, myself included.

 I believe it uses a short stroke piston like an SKS rather than direct impingement like the AR.  This enables it to run cleaner.  It uses AR mags and has simliar controls.  I like this because the AR is awfully ergonomic.

 The AR is not going anywhere yet, but guns like this are more than likely the future.  Lots of plastic, pic. rails and a piston operating system.

 www.sigforum.com has lots of information about this direct form SIG themselves.

 I too have heard good things about RRA.
7/29/2006 2:10:41 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
 The SIG 556 is the civvie legal version of the SIG 552.  It is said to be as accurate as an AR and the 550 series has been lusted after by American shooters since it came out, myself included.

 I believe it uses a short stroke piston like an SKS rather than direct impingement like the AR.  This enables it to run cleaner.  It uses AR mags and has simliar controls.  I like this because the AR is awfully ergonomic.

 The AR is not going anywhere yet, but guns like this are more than likely the future.  Lots of plastic, pic. rails and a piston operating system.

 www.sigforum.com has lots of information about this direct form SIG themselves.

 I too have heard good things about RRA.


The 556 is not really the civilian legal version of the 552.  It is more accurately the US made revision of the 550 (for the L model with the longer sight radius and longer piston) and 551 (for the standard and P model).  The 552's gas system is shorter than the 550 and 551.  The recoil spring is retained around the gas piston/op rod in the 550, 551, and 556.  The 552 has a recoil spring housed within the upper receiver behind the bolt carrier.  Also, the 55x family (including the 556) uses a long stroke piston, not a short stroke piston.
7/29/2006 2:20:28 PM EDT
[#4]
 I stand corrected, I have only been learning about military type rifles for the last 6 months or so.  I am primarily a handgun aficionado.

 Long stroke piston?  Like an AK?  Cool.
7/29/2006 5:21:10 PM EDT
[#5]
New-arguy-  I don't think you are being an idiot at all!  I actually wasn't sure I was posting in the right place when I did it.  One of the things I like about this site is that it is orderly and the rules are enforced.

Pretty interesting stuff, later tonight I'll go check out the sigforums.  


I'll have to do some checking, if this is a new unit maybe we are getting some kind of "deal" from Sig to get them out in the field and create some confidence/track record or whatever.

I also heard a rumor sice my first post that the same work unit may replace Glock 23's with a compact Sig.

dg.
7/30/2006 1:20:08 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
 I stand corrected, I have only been learning about military type rifles for the last 6 months or so.  I am primarily a handgun aficionado.

 Long stroke piston?  Like an AK?  Cool.


The Sig 55x series is based on the AK47 operating system.  One look at the bolt and bolt carrier and you'll see that it is 100% AK lineage.  Sig re-designed the actual piston with a pretty nifty regulation system and also made the recoil spring telescope the piston op-rod.
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