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9/25/2002 3:37:05 PM EDT
I AM HAVING SOME ISSUES TODAY!
OK I JUST PUT TOGETHER A UPPER
BUT I BUT DIDNT PAY NO MIND
AS TO HOW I INSERTED THE GAS TUBE
INTO THE BLOCK   DONT ASK WHAY
WHAT I NEED TO KNOW IS
CAN A GAS TUBE GO IN THE BLOCK UPSIDE DOWN
I DONT HAVE ONE NOT ON A RIFLE TO LOOK AT
OR...DOES IT HAVE TWO HOLES SO THAT CANT HAPPEN?
ONE ON TOP OF THE TUBE AND ONE ON BOTTOM?
PLEASE HELP I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW
SO MAYBE I DONT HAVE TO FIND A PUCH SMALL ENOUGH FOR THAT TINY PIN AND TAKE THE ENTIRE THING APART AFTER JEST PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER
AND LET SAY I GO TO THE RANGE AND SHOOT IT
WILL I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TO MUCH PRESSURE????
OR WILL IT JUST NOT CYCLE?????????
IF IT WONT EXPLODE THEN I CAN DO THAT
BUT IF NOT I MUST TAKE IT APART

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9/25/2002 8:45:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Ok first of all, there is no reason whatsoever to take out the gas tube, unless your changing out a barrel.

Yes there is a proper way to orient your gas tube. The end that faces out and heads into the upper reciver [that big part with the carry handle & rear sight] has a bit of a ring around it that should be clearly visible.

Frankly if you dont have the proper gas block pins or arent sure of what you're doing, please take it to a gun-smith. Otherwise you may not have a hand next time you shoot your AR.
9/26/2002 4:48:43 AM EDT
[#2]
If I understand your message, you are saying that you have installed the gas tube AND have installed the retaining pin that holds it in place.  If so, the tube is installed correctly.
The front end of the gas tube has three holes.  The largest is the gas inlet, and the two smaller ones that are opposite each other are for the retaining pin. You can't put the tube in upside down.  The offset that allows the back end of the tube to go thru the front of the reciever won't let you.  You can put it in somewhat cockeyed, but then the retaining pin holes won't line up with their counterpart holes in the front sight base.  

Again, if you've installed the retaining pin thru the front sight base, and thru the holes in the front of the tube, the thing is in right.
I do agree with mayday, though, that you really shouldn't be taking the thing apart, without knowing what you're doing
9/26/2002 5:12:15 AM EDT
[#3]
you guys sure know how to try
make a guy feel stupid
i have taken apart about 3 ar15 rifles
and put them back together fine
if you cant figure out the ar15 and
how to take it apart without a smith
then i dont think you should own one!!!
what im saying is yes i put the retaining
pin in but are you sure you cant put the
tube in upside down???????????????????????????
with the large hole facing up not down
please are you sure?????????????????
you stated that its not possible
to put it in upside down
i dont see how its impossible
at all the retaining holes are in the
middle of the tube as are they not??????
so i believe it can go in either way

and hey
why should i use a smith thats just more
money out of my pocket and i am smart
enough to figure it out myself
as said i wasnt paying attention
when i inserted the tube
i was so focused on get that retaining pin
in that little hole its a jp block
so it has extra space in the block
that allows the tube to over travel
and its a pain to get it in those hole
please advise im not to sure you
guys are the one i should be getting my
info from you guys come off a bit harsh
you seem to want me to spend money at a smith
when i should be teaching myself the ins and outs
9/26/2002 5:14:29 AM EDT
[#4]
Ok first of all, there is no reason whatsoever to take out the gas tube, unless your changing out a barrel

i put the whole thing together!!!!!!!!!
you think you have a brain ...or that your my dad or something?????????
with your   (you now the big thingy
with the rear sight)
you coudnt even answer my Q's
sounds like you need a bit of help
telling me to go to a smith
if one has the tools and half a brain
you can strip and assemble a ar15
no prob!!!!!!!!
lol
9/26/2002 5:28:42 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
if one has the tools and half a brain
you can strip and assemble a ar15
no prob!!!!!!!!
lol



Apparently not.
9/26/2002 6:00:19 AM EDT
[#6]
Buddy, take it down a notch.  You are getting WAY too defensive here.

This is an internet message board where any Tom, Dick or Morton can register and chime in.  You are going to get a wide variety of folks who respond in a variety of ways.  

You may also keep in mind that many folks on this board have been on this board for a LONG time (thousands of posts).  They know each other well and AR15.com has become much like a virtual clubhouse with a bunch of friends hanging out and jawjacking about pretty much everything.  When you walk into a clubhouse do you expect everyone to treat you with kid gloves?  No clubhouse I ever went into didn't have its share of good-natured and sometimes not so good natured ribbing.  You accept that as part of the ground rules and if you can't take it you don't walk in the door.

As far as the criticism and quality of help you were provided:

1. If you are truly as smart as you say you are it probably should be enough.

2. You seem to be expecting folks to use some form of expert clairvoyance combined with time travel to understand what you did when you installed the gas tube (as you admitted) while not paying attention, and then tell you that everything is fine.  The smart thing to do right now, considering you have no idea how you installed the tube, is to take it apart again and install it again while actually paying attention to what you are doing.

3. Most guns are simple mechanical devices, if they were overly complicated, they wouldn't be reliable enough for the field. Thus any reasonably mechanically inclined individual should be able to learn how to properly build or maintain a service-type firearm. However, any semi-auto has a couple of tricks involved that can get really finicky and it really helps to either have had good instruction from someone who knows those tricks, or to spend some quality time with a good manual that will reveal those tricks to you.  Even then, you'll probably end up spending some real quality time fine tuning things.

I admire your initiative.  You've gone out and done something that a lot of us wouldn't do.  However, you need to check your attitude at the door and grow a thicker skin if you are going to ask for advice on a semi-public forum like this.
9/26/2002 11:57:13 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Buddy, take it down a notch.  You are getting WAY too defensive here.

.........

I admire your initiative.  You've gone out and done something that a lot of us wouldn't do.  However, you need to check your attitude at the door and grow a thicker skin if you are going to ask for advice on a semi-public forum like this.



A little punctuation wouldn't hurt either.

Sgtar15
9/26/2002 1:08:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Didn't you bust your AR-10 in another thread? (Along with the caps lock)
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