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1/14/2017 11:07:16 AM EDT
I have been wanted to record a few hunting trips when out with friends but don't really feel like dropping the coin on a Go-Pro and pvs14 adapter kits I have seen online. 

Any relatively inexpensive cameras out there that would give meh results without eating up too much my thermal scope piggy bank. 
1/14/2017 2:48:51 PM EDT
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I'm actually wondering the same thing.  I have a hunting trip coming up in Feb.
1/14/2017 6:19:31 PM EDT
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$300 nightcombatsolutions

I just need to figure out how much of the image it obscures in the eyepiece.


@jwramp uses this system and is pretty happy with it (and he appears to be a pretty accomplished photog).
1/14/2017 9:22:44 PM EDT
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$300 nightcombatsolutions

I just need to figure out how much of the image it obscures in the eyepiece.
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Tough to photograph, but here's an example with the iPhone. I feel like when I've got it up to my face I can almost see past it a little more as it gets much blurrier than what the iPhone shows, but having the second tube definitely helps with filling in whatever you're missing. You can mount it at any angle too, if you want it blocking the top instead, so it doesn't obstruct where you're walking.


1/14/2017 10:14:30 PM EDT
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Thanks man. That ain't terrible. I think I could probably live with it.


Does it affect the weight/balance of the device to which it's mounted?
1/14/2017 10:56:12 PM EDT
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Thanks man. That ain't terrible. I think I could probably live with it.


Does it affect the weight/balance of the device to which it's mounted?
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No, it's super light and the battery is attached with a wire long enough to Velcro to the side or back of a helmet.
1/14/2017 10:56:19 PM EDT
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I'm sure it does. Doesn't weigh nothing, but not enough for it to seem like a big deal to me. Maybe throw one more CR123 in the 'mohawk'
1/15/2017 10:06:05 PM EDT
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Thanks man. That ain't terrible. I think I could probably live with it.


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It's way beyond not being terrible. I just ignore the post in my view and get on with my night. It's so light I can almost forget it's there. The main drawdown is fragility - so route your cables well and take care of it. Get extra batteries for the remote.

There is a color shift that occurs if your image brightness goes over a certain level. The image will turn gray and it never goes back to green.
1/16/2017 12:58:59 AM EDT
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It's way beyond not being terrible. I just ignore the post in my view and get on with my night. It's so light I can almost forget it's there. The main drawdown is fragility - so route your cables well and take care of it. Get extra batteries for the remote.

There is a color shift that occurs if your image brightness goes over a certain level. The image will turn gray and it never goes back to green.
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Even if you turn it off and back on?

I'm leaning toward buying one of these soon. So, I appreciate any pros and cons you can share.

Thanks!
1/16/2017 11:40:57 AM EDT
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I like mine, but as was mentioned, fasten the wires down so they don't snag on anything! Also, I think the price has gone up considerably on them?
1/16/2017 12:51:20 PM EDT
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I like mine, but as was mentioned, fasten the wires down so they don't snag on anything! Also, I think the price has gone up considerably on them?
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Their website quotes $299.
1/16/2017 1:02:34 PM EDT
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I like mine, but as was mentioned, fasten the wires down so they don't snag on anything! Also, I think the price has gone up considerably on them?
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The price did not "go up". They were on sale for quite a while. I believe $299 was the going price.
1/16/2017 1:10:00 PM EDT
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Even if you turn it off and back on?

I'm leaning toward buying one of these soon. So, I appreciate any pros and cons you can share.

Thanks!
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It's way beyond not being terrible. I just ignore the post in my view and get on with my night. It's so light I can almost forget it's there. The main drawdown is fragility - so route your cables well and take care of it. Get extra batteries for the remote.

There is a color shift that occurs if your image brightness goes over a certain level. The image will turn gray and it never goes back to green.


Even if you turn it off and back on?

I'm leaning toward buying one of these soon. So, I appreciate any pros and cons you can share.

Thanks!


You are correct. If you turn the unit OFF/ON then it will reset the green to gray shift - however, you will never actually know when the shift occurs. One way to beat it is to overdrive it from the beginning so your entire recording session is gray - then everyone that sees the video will think you used a white phosphor tube.
1/16/2017 1:20:54 PM EDT
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Even if you turn it off and back on?

I'm leaning toward buying one of these soon. So, I appreciate any pros and cons you can share.

Thanks!
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It's way beyond not being terrible. I just ignore the post in my view and get on with my night. It's so light I can almost forget it's there. The main drawdown is fragility - so route your cables well and take care of it. Get extra batteries for the remote.

There is a color shift that occurs if your image brightness goes over a certain level. The image will turn gray and it never goes back to green.


Even if you turn it off and back on?

I'm leaning toward buying one of these soon. So, I appreciate any pros and cons you can share.

Thanks!


Pros:

Less expensive than most other systems.

Seems to auto-correct for some focus issues, somehow.

Modular so it kind of melts into your helmet system.

Rechargeable (except for the remote).

Vibration feedback for night time use.

Fairly easy to use overall.


Cons:

Never seems to have perfect resolution.

Modular so it has fragile cables.

Rechargeable, so if you need to keep running you can't just install new batteries. Also, when the battery dies for good, the unit is toast.

You need to keep your hand on the unit while activating settings so you get the vibration feedback. Your head may not detect it through the helmet padding / ambient noise.
1/16/2017 6:03:45 PM EDT
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Pros:

Less expensive than most other systems.

Seems to auto-correct for some focus issues, somehow.

Modular so it kind of melts into your helmet system.

Rechargeable (except for the remote).

Vibration feedback for night time use.

Fairly easy to use overall.


Cons:

Never seems to have perfect resolution.

Modular so it has fragile cables.

Rechargeable, so if you need to keep running you can't just install new batteries. Also, when the battery dies for good, the unit is toast.

You need to keep your hand on the unit while activating settings so you get the vibration feedback. Your head may not detect it through the helmet padding / ambient noise.
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It's way beyond not being terrible. I just ignore the post in my view and get on with my night. It's so light I can almost forget it's there. The main drawdown is fragility - so route your cables well and take care of it. Get extra batteries for the remote.

There is a color shift that occurs if your image brightness goes over a certain level. The image will turn gray and it never goes back to green.


Even if you turn it off and back on?

I'm leaning toward buying one of these soon. So, I appreciate any pros and cons you can share.

Thanks!


Pros:

Less expensive than most other systems.

Seems to auto-correct for some focus issues, somehow.

Modular so it kind of melts into your helmet system.

Rechargeable (except for the remote).

Vibration feedback for night time use.

Fairly easy to use overall.


Cons:

Never seems to have perfect resolution.

Modular so it has fragile cables.

Rechargeable, so if you need to keep running you can't just install new batteries. Also, when the battery dies for good, the unit is toast.

You need to keep your hand on the unit while activating settings so you get the vibration feedback. Your head may not detect it through the helmet padding / ambient noise.


Thanks. Sounds like the pros outweigh the cons, at least in my book.
1/16/2017 7:01:41 PM EDT
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Thanks. Sounds like the pros outweigh the cons, at least in my book.
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They did for me. I like the unit. I have a technical helmet cover with all kinds of attachment points that I thought that I would never use. It came in handy for this 3 piece gizmo with two cables.

Get spares for the remote before you find the lockout cover swept open and you find dead batteries in your unit. I was heartbroken to find my remote dead during my kitup for an adventure.

Let me add another couple of Pros:

Doesn't split your image with a prism so half of your available image intensity is lost to the camera.

Doesn't cut a significant amount of your image from the edge of the screen.


And one Con:

Doesn't use a full tilt camera so it's not very adjustable (but the auto adjustments do a decent job).
1/16/2017 7:10:00 PM EDT
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I have been wanted to record a few hunting trips when out with friends but don't really feel like dropping the coin on a Go-Pro and pvs14 adapter kits I have seen online. 
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This is a point that I don't think any of us addressed: I don't think the FPRS is recoil rated. I think we all assumed you were running helmet mounted with a weapon mounted laser but I don't recall your setup being mentioned. If you need to weapon mount the camera then a different unit may be in order. If you are running it helmet mounted with a laser then everything I said previously stands.
1/16/2017 8:27:01 PM EDT
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Definitely helmet mounted.

And thanks for all the info!
1/16/2017 8:52:46 PM EDT
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My bad I guess! I could've sworn when I was on the site last week, it said $499.00

However, I did get mine at the sale price at the time!
1/19/2017 10:41:23 AM EDT
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Yes I should have stated that.  Helmet mounted for sure. 
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