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1/31/2015 7:07:49 PM EDT
I am scraping my pennies together to get a nice(r) IR laser.  I need to pick between the CQBL-1 and the DBAL-I2 (Laser Devices Page)

Everything I've been able to find seems to indicate they are very similar.  Which one should I choose?

ETA:

CQBL-1:  Link

DBAL-I2:  Link
1/31/2015 7:14:48 PM EDT
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I am scraping my pennies together to get a nice(r) IR laser.  I need to pick between the CQBL-1 and the DBAL-I2

Everything I've been able to find seems to indicate they are very similar.  Which one should I choose?

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1/31/2015 7:32:44 PM EDT
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I am scraping my pennies together to get a nice(r) IR laser.  I need to pick between the CQBL-1 and the DBAL-I2

Everything I've been able to find seems to indicate they are very similar.  Which one should I choose?

Did you read this part?
"Sales restricted to military & law enforcement"


I'm guessing that is a bit misleading as these devices are available at several of the larger vendors online
1/31/2015 7:36:43 PM EDT
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Do you want VIS and IR? How about IR illumination? There are multiple options out there that vary in price and features. The ATPIAL-C and coming DBAL A-3 would be 2 "do all" units.
1/31/2015 7:40:08 PM EDT
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Do you want VIS and IR? How about IR illumination? There are multiple options out there that vary in price and features. The ATPIAL-C and coming DBAL A-3 would be 2 "do all" units.
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I want VIS & IR.  I'm leaning towards the CQBL due to the fact that I should be able to sight in during the day and switch to IR at night and still be pretty close.  The 2 outputs on the CQBL appear to be closer together which is why I'm eyeing that one.  I would like to have IR illum onboard as well, but a device with that feature is probably going to be out of my price range.
1/31/2015 7:57:01 PM EDT
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Out of the two you listed I've only used a CQBL but I enjoy mine. Since you want an illuminator you could always look into that Unity Tactical / TNVC Fusion mount and just slap a Surefire on it
1/31/2015 8:09:30 PM EDT
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I'm guessing that is a bit misleading as these devices are available at several of the larger vendors online
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I am scraping my pennies together to get a nice(r) IR laser.  I need to pick between the CQBL-1 and the DBAL-I2

Everything I've been able to find seems to indicate they are very similar.  Which one should I choose?

Did you read this part?
"Sales restricted to military & law enforcement"


I'm guessing that is a bit misleading as these devices are available at several of the larger vendors online
I suspect if you look they want be 5mw version but rather a .7mw ones.
1/31/2015 8:28:04 PM EDT
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I have the CQBL and I like the way the two lasers are slaved together.  That way I can check my laser against my scope in the daylight hrs (evening) and I'm good to do at night.
1/31/2015 8:53:12 PM EDT
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Out of your choices I would pick the CQBL for being low profile and slaved vis/ir....makes zeroing reallllly easy. Caveat to that is that I wouldn't pay more than $650 for one.

If buying new I would save some more and get the DBAL-A3. The new A3 is really feature rich (with usable features) that the CQBL just can't hold up to. Mainly lack of hi/low setting, non quick disconnect, required separate ir illumination that can't be activated simultaneously.
1/31/2015 9:46:53 PM EDT
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Out of your choices I would pick the CQBL for being low profile and slaved vis/ir....makes zeroing reallllly easy. Caveat to that is that I wouldn't pay more than $650 for one.

If buying new I would save some more and get the DBAL-A3. The new A3 is really feature rich (with usable features) that the CQBL just can't hold up to. Mainly lack of hi/low setting, non quick disconnect, required separate ir illumination that can't be activated simultaneously.
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Good advice here. There have been quite a few CQBLs in the EE recently for decent prices. I'll be holding out for the A3 as I like the VIS green and adjustable illuminator.
1/31/2015 10:18:21 PM EDT
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CQBL
2/1/2015 12:20:08 AM EDT
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Good advice here. There have been quite a few CQBLs in the EE recently for decent prices. I'll be holding out for the A3 as I like the VIS green and adjustable illuminator.
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Out of your choices I would pick the CQBL for being low profile and slaved vis/ir....makes zeroing reallllly easy. Caveat to that is that I wouldn't pay more than $650 for one.

If buying new I would save some more and get the DBAL-A3. The new A3 is really feature rich (with usable features) that the CQBL just can't hold up to. Mainly lack of hi/low setting, non quick disconnect, required separate ir illumination that can't be activated simultaneously.


Good advice here. There have been quite a few CQBLs in the EE recently for decent prices. I'll be holding out for the A3 as I like the VIS green and adjustable illuminator.


The CQBL's are getting dumped for the DBAL-A3
2/1/2015 10:21:28 AM EDT
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I am wanting one too, but my choices are the APTIAL-C and the DBALA3..  Any reason why the newest aren't on your list?  Both have slaved lasers and IR illuminators and at least one also has a ND filter.
2/1/2015 10:30:22 AM EDT
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I am wanting one too, but my choices are the APTIAL-C and the DBALA3..  Any reason why the newest aren't on your list?  Both have slaved lasers and IR illuminators and at least one also has a ND filter.
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The 2 I listed I can get from a buddy for <$650, all the other (newer) options are out of my price range.
2/1/2015 11:19:00 AM EDT
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I saved my pennies for the Steiner DBAL-A3.
2/2/2015 1:31:35 AM EDT
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CQBL



2/2/2015 9:40:43 AM EDT
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Between the two, the CQBL hands down.

DBAL A3 or ATPIAL class 1 are both better over all.
2/2/2015 9:50:49 AM EDT
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That's the way I'm leaning now.  Other than sitting a little higher on the rail than the APTIAL, it's exactly what I've been waiting for.
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