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Posted: 1/1/2015 5:12:52 PM EDT
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I find the 7's far easier to navigate with over a single PVS-14. I have no problem driving at-speed with a set of 7's on my head, but had more difficulty with 14's.
I don't "feel" a huge difference between 7's and dual tubes when walking or driving (mostly my quad). |
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The PVS-7 uses mirrors to split the beam for dual eye viewing.It is not stereo viewing but many find it more comfortable for stationary viewing over a single tube scope such as a 14. I like the 7 and use mine all the time.
Dual tube scopes are good but I am not the big fan some are. I don't fly fighter jets and I found the cost versus performance not to my liking. To each his own... The PVS-7 scopes can have a WIDE variety of tubes in them. Gen 2 or 3 is common. The MX-10130C is the most common in your scope which is Omni III performance. That said almost any tube is suspect as tubes are easy to change in these scopes. |
| I have three 7's that I've kept, two Omni VII and one VI. They're very good and I won't part with them. As Dino mentioned, the tube in the PVS-7 is the easiest to access of any NOD I've ever opened, which likewise makes it the easiest to inspect. No tools required, just your bare hands. |
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I currently have a ps14 gen2 monocular and I'm in the market for gen3s I guess I'm going to go with pvs 14 so I can run a dual setup eventually I honestly never knew there were as many PVS-7 fans until I started hanging out in this sub-forum. 
The PVS-7s were great for their time and are good and effective units if they're what you've got, but under no circumstances I can easily conceive of, would I choose them over either a single PVS-14, or a true dual tube setup. As I've said in other threads before, PVS-7s have all of the shortfalls of both binoculars and monoculars with none of the redeeming benefits of either. Like I said - good pieces of kit for what they are - and I've spent a lot of nights under '7s too, but definitely, IMHO, love 'em or hate 'em, for a first piece of Gen. III, I think it's hard to go wrong with a PVS-14. Meanwhile, from everything I can see, dual tube setups have begun getting increasingly more accessible just within the last couple of years. ~Augee |
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I honestly never knew there were as many PVS-7 fans until I started hanging out in this sub-forum.
The PVS-7s were great for their time and are good and effective units if they're what you've got, but under no circumstances I can easily conceive of, would I choose them over either a single PVS-14, or a true dual tube setup. As I've said in other threads before, PVS-7s have all of the shortfalls of both binoculars and monoculars with none of the redeeming benefits of either. Like I said - good pieces of kit for what they are - and I've spent a lot of nights under '7s too, but definitely, IMHO, love 'em or hate 'em, for a first piece of Gen. III, I think it's hard to go wrong with a PVS-14. Meanwhile, from everything I can see, dual tube setups have begun getting increasingly more accessible just within the last couple of years. ~Augee Quoted:
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I currently have a ps14 gen2 monocular and I'm in the market for gen3s I guess I'm going to go with pvs 14 so I can run a dual setup eventually I honestly never knew there were as many PVS-7 fans until I started hanging out in this sub-forum.
The PVS-7s were great for their time and are good and effective units if they're what you've got, but under no circumstances I can easily conceive of, would I choose them over either a single PVS-14, or a true dual tube setup. As I've said in other threads before, PVS-7s have all of the shortfalls of both binoculars and monoculars with none of the redeeming benefits of either. Like I said - good pieces of kit for what they are - and I've spent a lot of nights under '7s too, but definitely, IMHO, love 'em or hate 'em, for a first piece of Gen. III, I think it's hard to go wrong with a PVS-14. Meanwhile, from everything I can see, dual tube setups have begun getting increasingly more accessible just within the last couple of years. ~Augee All true, but I still love them, and Augee Scrooge won't make me love them any less.
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All true, but I still love them, and Augee Scrooge won't make me love them any less. Not the first time I've been called a Scrooge.
Like I said, when they're all you've got - they're awesome, and they most certainly work well for what they do - it's just that I don't know that I could bring myself to spend my own money on them, unless they were sub-$1,000.
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Horta is the PVS-7 guru.  But apparently the PVS-7 works with a lot of guys here, so it's just a matter of finding what's comfortable for your use.Few know that "Guru" is Swahili for "Moron who sleeps with sister." Yes... I'm the Guru. I like the PVS-7, but I also can't figure out why Pauly Shore never won an Oscar... buuuuuuuudy! |
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I find the 7's far easier to navigate with over a single PVS-14. I have no problem driving at-speed with a set of 7's on my head, but had more difficulty with 14's. I don't "feel" a huge difference between 7's and dual tubes when walking or driving (mostly my quad). I was considering upgrading to a dual unit but now you're making me rethink the 7's, you really can't tell that much of a difference? |
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I was considering upgrading to a dual unit but now you're making me rethink the 7's, you really can't tell that much of a difference? Quoted:
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I find the 7's far easier to navigate with over a single PVS-14. I have no problem driving at-speed with a set of 7's on my head, but had more difficulty with 14's. I don't "feel" a huge difference between 7's and dual tubes when walking or driving (mostly my quad). I was considering upgrading to a dual unit but now you're making me rethink the 7's, you really can't tell that much of a difference? There's definitely a difference, but it's not staggering. I could easily do most of what I do with the 7's. Dual tubes are great, but it's certainly diminishing returns for the second tube. |
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There's definitely a difference, but it's not staggering. I could easily do most of what I do with the 7's. Dual tubes are great, but it's certainly diminishing returns for the second tube. Quoted:
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I find the 7's far easier to navigate with over a single PVS-14. I have no problem driving at-speed with a set of 7's on my head, but had more difficulty with 14's. I don't "feel" a huge difference between 7's and dual tubes when walking or driving (mostly my quad). I was considering upgrading to a dual unit but now you're making me rethink the 7's, you really can't tell that much of a difference? There's definitely a difference, but it's not staggering. I could easily do most of what I do with the 7's. Dual tubes are great, but it's certainly diminishing returns for the second tube. Okay thanks, hey another question on the 7's- I saw on your weight comparison thread, the 7's weighed in at 17 oz. is this correct? All the specs I can find on the PVS-7's have their weight listed at 24 oz why is this? Thanks |
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There's definitely a difference, but it's not staggering. I could easily do most of what I do with the 7's. Dual tubes are great, but it's certainly diminishing returns for the second tube. Quoted:
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I find the 7's far easier to navigate with over a single PVS-14. I have no problem driving at-speed with a set of 7's on my head, but had more difficulty with 14's. I don't "feel" a huge difference between 7's and dual tubes when walking or driving (mostly my quad). I was considering upgrading to a dual unit but now you're making me rethink the 7's, you really can't tell that much of a difference? There's definitely a difference, but it's not staggering. I could easily do most of what I do with the 7's. Dual tubes are great, but it's certainly diminishing returns for the second tube. Pretty much this... I find that the dual tubes are more important for driving as you get depth perception with them which I find more important for moving at speed, but for just random walking around I find it less important. |
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Okay thanks, hey another question on the 7's- I saw on your weight comparison thread, the 7's weighed in at 17 oz. is this correct? All the specs I can find on the PVS-7's have their weight listed at 24 oz why is this? Thanks I'm not sure, but what I weighed is my personal-best Omni VII PVS-7 Delta. I don't know if I have two lithium AA batteries installed or not, but they would add one ounce at most if they weren't. |
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I'm not sure, but what I weighed is my personal-best Omni VII PVS-7 Delta. I don't know if I have two lithium AA batteries installed or not, but they would add one ounce at most if they weren't. Quoted:
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Okay thanks, hey another question on the 7's- I saw on your weight comparison thread, the 7's weighed in at 17 oz. is this correct? All the specs I can find on the PVS-7's have their weight listed at 24 oz why is this? Thanks I'm not sure, but what I weighed is my personal-best Omni VII PVS-7 Delta. I don't know if I have two lithium AA batteries installed or not, but they would add one ounce at most if they weren't. Interesting, well I just got a good deal on a new PVS-7, it probably won't be as good as your Omni VII milspec unit, but I'm curious to see how much it weighs. |
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