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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:07:46 PM EDT
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I understand the difference between the Government and NSW model, but could somebody explain the benefits of one over the other?
If I were to buy one right now, I would select the Government model. The reason to buy one would be for its intended use with NV. 3 LED's dedicated to IR over 2 would make it brighter in the IR mode over the visible green. Thus making it the ideal model, in my simple minded opinion. Is this flawed logic? Am I missing something? Why would the Navy want less IR brightness and more visible green? Just hoping someone could elaborate on this. |
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I had a chance to play around with a VIP strobe with 3 LED's
It seemed like all 3 LEDs did not go off at the same time. In a quick glance it may look like it but they activate in rapid succession. Perhaps the NSW version only has 2 to create a distinguishable pattern? |
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I had a chance to play around with a VIP strobe with 3 LED's It seemed like all 3 LEDs did not go off at the same time. In a quick glance it may look like it but they activate in rapid succession. Perhaps the NSW version only has 2 to create a distinguishable pattern? I'm confused. The VIP's come with 5 LED's...all of them do; both models. The Government is 3 IR and 2 vis Green. The NSW has 2 IR and 3 vis Green. |
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NSW hands down. Two IR LEDs is plenty bright, and the switch is bi-directional meaning that one can select IR without passing through a VIS (delayed) position and vice versa. This was recommended to me by Vic, and he was spot on as usual. Thanks for that. That's what I was looking to know. Could you elaborate on what you mean in the part in blue? Is this like with Surefire flashlights that have dual output functions, you have to cycle high-low-high-low and pass through the high output mode in order to get to low each time? |
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The rotary switch on the VIP has four positions.
For the NSW version, they are OFF - IR STROBE - VIS CONSTANT (with delay) - VIS STROBE. As an example, from the OFF position, the switch can be rotated one position CW to get to IR STROBE or one position CCW to get to VIS STROBE. The switch can then be rotated one position (in the reverse direction) back to OFF from either IR STROBE or VIS STROBE. For the Gov version, they are OFF - IR CONSTANT- IR STROBE - VIS CONSTANT (with delay). The switch ONLY rotates CW, so to get from OFF to IR STROBE, it must be rotated two positions passing IR CONSTANT along the way. To get from IR STROBE to OFF, the switch must be rotated two positions passing VIS CONSTANT (with delay) along the way. Since I use the IR STOBE mode almost exclusively, it is much easier to simply switch one position back and forth between OFF and IR STROBE. The "downside" to the NSW is that if you turn it the "wrong" direction from OFF, you will be in VIS STROBE, so a certain amount of training/muscle memory is required for desired operation. That is about the best that I can explain it. |
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The rotary switch on the VIP has four positions. For the NSW version, they are OFF - IR STROBE - VIS CONSTANT (with delay) - VIS STROBE. As an example, from the OFF position, the switch can be rotated one position CW to get to IR STROBE or one position CCW to get to VIS STROBE. The switch can then be rotated one position (in the reverse direction) back to OFF from either IR STROBE or VIS STROBE. For the Gov version, they are OFF - IR CONSTANT- IR STROBE - VIS CONSTANT (with delay). The switch ONLY rotates CW, so to get from OFF to IR STROBE, it must be rotated two positions passing IR CONSTANT along the way. To get from IR STROBE to OFF, the switch must be rotated two positions passing VIS CONSTANT (with delay) along the way. Since I use the IR STOBE mode almost exclusively, it is much easier to simply switch one position back and forth between OFF and IR STROBE. The "downside" to the NSW is that if you turn it the "wrong" direction from OFF, you will be in VIS STROBE, so a certain amount of training/muscle memory is required for desired operation. That is about the best that I can explain it. I appreciate that, you explained it just fine. But now I'm not sure which I'd go with. At least with the NSW if you get confused at which position you're in, you could reverse back to one of the IR modes real fast, rather than accidentally switching to VIS constant and taking the delay for it being off, only to be surprised when it turns on. I guess I could understand the difference in output modes, but not with the rotary nob functioning differently. Sort of odd. |
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Quoted: I appreciate that, you explained it just fine. But now I'm not sure which I'd go with. At least with the NSW if you get confused at which position you're in, you could reverse back to one of the IR modes real fast, rather than accidentally switching to VIS constant and taking the delay for it being off, only to be surprised when it turns on. You can purchase additionally, a bezel lock, which insures the bezel will only rotate one way, so you never get confused. Also, you're almost never switching light spectrums on a mission. It's an "either or" type thing. I guess I could understand the difference in output modes, but not with the rotary nob functioning differently. Sort of odd. You have to keep in mind, these were not originally designed with commercial consumer in mind. The GOV model was made for a govt agency, and the NSW model was made at their request, respectfully. They both individually had their own SOP's and functions they had in mind. Quoted: Quoted: The rotary switch on the VIP has four positions. For the NSW version, they are OFF - IR STROBE - VIS CONSTANT (with delay) - VIS STROBE. As an example, from the OFF position, the switch can be rotated one position CW to get to IR STROBE or one position CCW to get to VIS STROBE. The switch can then be rotated one position (in the reverse direction) back to OFF from either IR STROBE or VIS STROBE. For the Gov version, they are OFF - IR CONSTANT- IR STROBE - VIS CONSTANT (with delay). The switch ONLY rotates CW, so to get from OFF to IR STROBE, it must be rotated two positions passing IR CONSTANT along the way. To get from IR STROBE to OFF, the switch must be rotated two positions passing VIS CONSTANT (with delay) along the way. Since I use the IR STOBE mode almost exclusively, it is much easier to simply switch one position back and forth between OFF and IR STROBE. The "downside" to the NSW is that if you turn it the "wrong" direction from OFF, you will be in VIS STROBE, so a certain amount of training/muscle memory is required for desired operation. That is about the best that I can explain it. I appreciate that, you explained it just fine. But now I'm not sure which I'd go with. At least with the NSW if you get confused at which position you're in, you could reverse back to one of the IR modes real fast, rather than accidentally switching to VIS constant and taking the delay for it being off, only to be surprised when it turns on. You can purchase additionally, a bezel lock, which insures the bezel will only rotate one way, so you never get confused. Also, you're almost never switching light spectrums on a mission. It's an "either or" type thing. I guess I could understand the difference in output modes, but not with the rotary nob functioning differently. Sort of odd. You have to keep in mind, these were not originally designed with commercial consumer in mind. The GOV model was made for a govt agency, and the NSW model was made at their request, respectfully. They both individually had their own SOP's and functions they had in mind. |
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