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Posted: 5/15/2014 11:42:08 AM EDT
| Been looking around if this has been address; is there a difference between a regular USGI RHINO mount, and this one which is advertised as titanium. Or are all of the them titanium? If they are different is there improvment of one over the other? More stable,lighter, etc.... |
| That mount has vertical adjustment while the standard USGI Rhino mount did not have this. As far as to what type of metal it is ? Probably some alloy of aluminum but I really don't know. I have never broke one so they are pretty strong. Vertical adjustment is a nice feature to have. Keeps you from having to shove your helmet up or down to get it right. You wear your helmet where it is comfy and adjust the mount to suit. |
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For some official record here on these mounts. Approx one year ago, Norotos was awarded an ARMY contract shared with Wilcox Industries to replace the current Rhino flip-up helmet arm. Wilcox has been selling their version of the G-11 while Norotos has not opened their version out to commercial sales due to fulfilling Mil orders first. Norotos has been fully aware of the E-Bay ads selling their mounts and had no idea how and where these were coming from.
With that said, we are getting these mounts in the next few weeks, where we will do our normal testing and review of this mount and post here of course and our U-Tube Channel. Thank you. Vic |
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For some official record here on these mounts. Approx one year ago, Norotos was awarded an ARMY contract shared with Wilcox Industries to replace the current Rhino flip-up helmet arm. Wilcox has been selling their version of the G-11 while Norotos has not opened their version out to commercial sales due to fulfilling Mil orders first. Norotos has been fully aware of the E-Bay ads selling their mounts and had no idea how and where these were coming from. With that said, we are getting these mounts in the next few weeks, where we will do our normal testing and review of this mount and post here of course and our U-Tube Channel. Thank you. Vic Norotos should ask PoliceandTacticalsupply. They are the eBay sellers and have sold 15 units with 10 still available. If they are warm it seems these guys know how to find the stash. Or, the Chinese are ahead of the bell curve again and hacked Norotos for the design plans. 
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Norotos should ask PoliceandTacticalsupply. They are the eBay sellers and have sold 15 units with 10 still available. If they are warm it seems these guys know how to find the stash. Or, the Chinese are ahead of the bell curve again and hacked Norotos for the design plans.
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For some official record here on these mounts. Approx one year ago, Norotos was awarded an ARMY contract shared with Wilcox Industries to replace the current Rhino flip-up helmet arm. Wilcox has been selling their version of the G-11 while Norotos has not opened their version out to commercial sales due to fulfilling Mil orders first. Norotos has been fully aware of the E-Bay ads selling their mounts and had no idea how and where these were coming from. With that said, we are getting these mounts in the next few weeks, where we will do our normal testing and review of this mount and post here of course and our U-Tube Channel. Thank you. Vic Norotos should ask PoliceandTacticalsupply. They are the eBay sellers and have sold 15 units with 10 still available. If they are warm it seems these guys know how to find the stash. Or, the Chinese are ahead of the bell curve again and hacked Norotos for the design plans.
They might have just got theirs, not sure. I know Norotos is just now shipping these to distributors. 
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Interesting, so I just did some searching and it looks like there might be two versions coming out (soldiersystem had an article), one for a dovetail and one for a j-arm. That would be nice... wonder what the price difference will be. It seems anything with a dovetail means BIG $$$$ I would like to see some affordable dove-tail options on the market... like sub $150... |
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I have two of those mounts, they do have a vertical adjustment. I got them for cheap off of ebay, For $60-$70 its a great value over the standard rhino mount. Same here- I bought one 8/8/13 for $80 delivered and one 4/1/14 for $70 delivered. Much improved design over the older version. If you compare pics between the new version and the old version, the newer version has a lever arm next to the base. If that lever is loosened, the part attaching to the base (that fits into the mount) will slide up and down. |
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Can you take a pic of yours because I can't figure out how to vertically adjust it? Thanks Quoted:
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I have two of those mounts, they do have a vertical adjustment. I got them for cheap off of ebay, For $60-$70 its a great value over the standard rhino mount. Can you take a pic of yours because I can't figure out how to vertically adjust it? Thanks ncorry is correct, it will be the lever closest to where the mount locks into the shroud. One thing to remember with the lever, there are two positions where its locked. You only want to turn it half-way to unlock it. If you turn it all the way in either direction (180 degrees) it will lock again. |
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ncorry is correct, it will be the lever closest to where the mount locks into the shroud. One thing to remember with the lever, there are two positions where its locked. You only want to turn it half-way to unlock it. If you turn it all the way in either direction (180 degrees) it will lock again. Quoted:
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I have two of those mounts, they do have a vertical adjustment. I got them for cheap off of ebay, For $60-$70 its a great value over the standard rhino mount. Can you take a pic of yours because I can't figure out how to vertically adjust it? Thanks ncorry is correct, it will be the lever closest to where the mount locks into the shroud. One thing to remember with the lever, there are two positions where its locked. You only want to turn it half-way to unlock it. If you turn it all the way in either direction (180 degrees) it will lock again. Thanks. I figured it out with your help. |
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J-arm. I haven't seen any dovetail one's on the bay yet. Look closely at the pics on adams site. There's slightly cheaper options on ebay, but it seems since posting of this thread they are getting bought up.
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So is the one in the posted link a j-arm or dovetail interface then? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I finally checked one of these out (bayonet-type) firsthand as part of the ongoing mounts evaluation program.
For folks who have been content enough with the USGI rhino rather than "upgrading" to one of the more Gucci mounts, or are interested in a more economical solution is this realm of really expensive stuff, the "Titanium" is a real winner. As has already been mentioned, it has vertical adjustment. This feature is lever-operated rather than thumbscrew, so it is arguably not quite as easy to fine tune, but is equivalent to the Wilcox offerings and most certainly gets the job done. Another notable improvement versus the previous rhino is the ER adjustment. It is lever-operated "slide" analogous to the AKA2. One of the other members who has been assisting with mounts evaluation offline has indicated that in his experience downrange the standard rhino can become twisted or fouled making the ER adjustment very difficult. This issue seems to have been significantly mitigated with the improved design. This mount has the Norotos standard magnet setup for the auto-shutoff "feature" when using a USGI J-arm. Accordingly, it can be disabled just as easily by simply removing the two little screws that the magnet is mounted with. My personal preference is for left side pitch control, which this mount has, including a large lever providing solid purchase for operation. One of the comments made by a member of the offline mounts evaluation team is that the pitch control on the G24 (and G11) is that the lever was comparatively small and might be more challenging to operate with gloves. He is currently putting the G24 through the paces during some .mil training exercises, and I am eagerly awaiting the feedback. I am not a materials engineer, but am fairly confident that this mount is NOT made from titanium as the namesake implies. It is simply too heavy to be so, and that would also put Norotos at a commercial disadvantage when competing with Wilcox for .mil contracts. The Norotos TATM is advertised as being actually made from titanium with the corresponding weight savings and associated price tag. I don't have one of those in my hands for evaluation (yet) to compare with the other six types (seven if we count the "old school" plastic rhino that came with my OMNI IV PVS-14). Geometry wise, it is essentially the same as the previous rhino in terms of the arc produced when transitioning from deployed-to-stowed and vice versa. What this means from a practical perspective when stowed is that it is not all that great for overhead clearance, but is very good for CG location. I am not a fan of counterweights. Will I be routinely using it instead of the INVG/dovetail-to-bayonet adapter? Not likely, but it is a much more economical solution for those on a tight budget Speaking of cost, I suspect that all of us who are gainfully employed in the US have subsidized the ones being currently sold on fleabay. I won't get into ethics discussions other than by suggesting, "to thine own self be true." |
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