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Originally Posted By Currahee:
Here are the rough drafts for the two articles I am writing for the website on the subject of NODs. These are not listed in the menus yet. Any feedback would be appreciated. Introduction to Night Vision Night Vision Camouflage OK, typos aside (and there are quite a few, BTW), I think the "Conclusion" on the Intro article is wanting. I'll try to think of what I'd like to see as someone who is new to the Night Vision world, and the real pitfalls to avoid and how not to get taken when buying such an expensive item(s). The Camo article is better, IMO, but the "Conclusion" there is weak as well (and more spelling errors  ).
If you're up for it, I'll try to be more specific later. Just swamped right now, and ARF is my 60-second sanity break throughout the day. |
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Originally Posted By TheHorta:
OK, typos aside (and there are quite a few, BTW), I think the "Conclusion" on the Intro article is wanting. I'll try to think of what I'd like to see as someone who is new to the Night Vision world, and the real pitfalls to avoid and how not to get taken when buying such an expensive item(s). The Camo article is better, IMO, but the "Conclusion" there is weak as well (and more spelling errors ).
If you're up for it, I'll try to be more specific later. Just swamped right now, and ARF is my 60-second sanity break throughout the day. Originally Posted By TheHorta:
Originally Posted By Currahee:
Here are the rough drafts for the two articles I am writing for the website on the subject of NODs. These are not listed in the menus yet. Any feedback would be appreciated. Introduction to Night Vision Night Vision Camouflage OK, typos aside (and there are quite a few, BTW), I think the "Conclusion" on the Intro article is wanting. I'll try to think of what I'd like to see as someone who is new to the Night Vision world, and the real pitfalls to avoid and how not to get taken when buying such an expensive item(s). The Camo article is better, IMO, but the "Conclusion" there is weak as well (and more spelling errors ).
If you're up for it, I'll try to be more specific later. Just swamped right now, and ARF is my 60-second sanity break throughout the day. Any input is appreciated. I agree on the conclusion for the second article. I have to go through those several times for typos etc, the program I use to write HTML has me working in a small little window and does some jinky format switching. |
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| I recently bought some ASAT pattern camo. The 6-pocket BDUs are mostly cotton, but the long-sleeve T shirts are 80% polyester. Looking in the nods the Ts shine like crazy and the camo pattern is almost completely washed out. The pants look good, the camo pattern stands out well and there is very little shine. I had some 100% cotton Ts with realtree and they look good and do not shine. I sent the poly Ts back and kept the pants. I would have to say natural fabrics definitely out-perform synthetics in this regard. Sorry no pics. |
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Originally Posted By RamblinWreck:
I recently bought some ASAT pattern camo. The 6-pocket BDUs are mostly cotton, but the long-sleeve T shirts are 80% polyester. Looking in the nods the Ts shine like crazy and the camo pattern is almost completely washed out. The pants look good, the camo pattern stands out well and there is very little shine. I had some 100% cotton Ts with realtree and they look good and do not shine. I sent the poly Ts back and kept the pants. I would have to say natural fabrics definitely out-perform synthetics in this regard. Sorry no pics. This has been my experience. I still haven't used the IR spray, but I will......someday. |
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Originally Posted By Delta4-3:
Doing the photo's with IR lum would be good too. That is usually where some of the patterns that conceal well go down the drain. I have a PVS14 and a surefire scout with the vampire IR head on it IF I can get my 100 dollar camera to take pictures through my PVS14 I will hit some camo with the IR light and take pictures this weekend |
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Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
I have a PVS14 and a surefire scout with the vampire IR head on it IF I can get my 100 dollar camera to take pictures through my PVS14 I will hit some camo with the IR light and take pictures this weekend Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
Originally Posted By Delta4-3:
Doing the photo's with IR lum would be good too. That is usually where some of the patterns that conceal well go down the drain. I have a PVS14 and a surefire scout with the vampire IR head on it IF I can get my 100 dollar camera to take pictures through my PVS14 I will hit some camo with the IR light and take pictures this weekend Quick note about taking pics with IR Lum against cammo. I have taken many pics over the years showing off cammo through a NOD and when IR lum is used, in most cases the camera does funky things with all the light coming in the camera and the pic is not a true representation how the cammo is really showing. 
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Originally Posted By TNVC:
Quick note about taking pics with IR Lum against cammo. I have taken many pics over the years showing off cammo through a NOD and when IR lum is used, in most cases the camera does funky things with all the light coming in the camera and the pic is not a true representation how the cammo is really showing.
Vic Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
Originally Posted By Delta4-3:
Doing the photo's with IR lum would be good too. That is usually where some of the patterns that conceal well go down the drain. I have a PVS14 and a surefire scout with the vampire IR head on it IF I can get my 100 dollar camera to take pictures through my PVS14 I will hit some camo with the IR light and take pictures this weekend Quick note about taking pics with IR Lum against cammo. I have taken many pics over the years showing off cammo through a NOD and when IR lum is used, in most cases the camera does funky things with all the light coming in the camera and the pic is not a true representation how the cammo is really showing.
Vic I think number 3 of our NVG video series kind of captured that, filming different things through NVG with and without illum. |
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Originally Posted By Currahee:
I think number 3 of our NVG video series kind of captured that, filming different things through NVG with and without illum. Originally Posted By Currahee:
Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
Originally Posted By Delta4-3:
Doing the photo's with IR lum would be good too. That is usually where some of the patterns that conceal well go down the drain. I have a PVS14 and a surefire scout with the vampire IR head on it IF I can get my 100 dollar camera to take pictures through my PVS14 I will hit some camo with the IR light and take pictures this weekend Quick note about taking pics with IR Lum against cammo. I have taken many pics over the years showing off cammo through a NOD and when IR lum is used, in most cases the camera does funky things with all the light coming in the camera and the pic is not a true representation how the cammo is really showing.
Vic I think number 3 of our NVG video series kind of captured that, filming different things through NVG with and without illum. Hey Brother, where is that Vid? I may have overlooked it. Vic |
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Originally Posted By TNVC:
Hey Brother, where is that Vid? I may have overlooked it. Vic Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By Currahee:
Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
Originally Posted By Delta4-3:
Doing the photo's with IR lum would be good too. That is usually where some of the patterns that conceal well go down the drain. I have a PVS14 and a surefire scout with the vampire IR head on it IF I can get my 100 dollar camera to take pictures through my PVS14 I will hit some camo with the IR light and take pictures this weekend Quick note about taking pics with IR Lum against cammo. I have taken many pics over the years showing off cammo through a NOD and when IR lum is used, in most cases the camera does funky things with all the light coming in the camera and the pic is not a true representation how the cammo is really showing.
Vic I think number 3 of our NVG video series kind of captured that, filming different things through NVG with and without illum. Hey Brother, where is that Vid? I may have overlooked it. Vic 
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Great post so far, thanks for taking it!
I'm really pissed I got rid of a set of the old "Grid" pattern camo a few years back - went to goodwill since I couldn't sell it on the EE. Anyway, I wanted to point out, if you end up doing some of the other patterns (multicam, ATACs, etc), I noticed that Propper put tags on some of them. I bought an ATACS FG boonie hat last weekend, and it said that it wasn't treated for IR protection like the 'standard' military ACU/BDU is. Just an FYI if you decide to get them, they come with and without IR in mind. |
| Spent last night working with NODs in the sticks. I should have a new comparison vid from it and another one showing the kit we use. |
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I thought this was a pretty good read. There is a section in there about building your own "night gates" for concealment.
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2014/09/17/repost-bracken-night-fighting-101/ |
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Originally Posted By raf:
Some additional info and pix from MM:http://www.militarymorons.com/misc/misc.html Thanks for sharing, never saw that one over at Cass's site. Vic |
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Good video... |
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Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Good video... Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Good video... Moral of the story: Guacamole dye acus or buy multicam.... |
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Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Moral of the story: Guacamole dye acus or buy multicam.... Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Good video... Moral of the story: Guacamole dye acus or buy multicam.... I've been happy with how my standard propper multicam looks under NV/IR, but the denier stuff just washes out completely (but doesn't turn up overly dark or bright). Krylon camo paint actually does a decent job of keeping its relative brightness under IR too. |
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