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2/23/2008 10:12:45 AM EDT
Does anyone know what setup Charlton Heston used in The Omega Man to shoot zombies at night?  I saw the movie in the theater in '71, and I seem to recall it looking like an M16 and a PVS-2, but it has been a long time and I could be wrong.
2/23/2008 11:16:34 AM EDT
[#1]
BAR with an infrared scope.
2/23/2008 12:54:41 PM EDT
[#2]
What a great movie!
2/23/2008 3:24:07 PM EDT
[#3]
LOL, for what its worth,

found this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Omega_Man

off to the side, is a pic of what he was using, from my feeble eyes, it appears to be the old M3 IR unit  mounted on the BAR
2/23/2008 6:51:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Neville would like to destroy the Family. As a former military officer, he is a hardened, realistic person who lives in a fortified apartment with an arsenal of weapons (including a Smith & Wesson M76 submachine gun, an infrared-equipped Browning Automatic Rifle and satchel charges).

Came from the body of the text.
2/23/2008 7:26:52 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
LOL, for what its worth,

found this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Omega_Man

off to the side, is a pic of what he was using, from my feeble eyes, it appears to be the old M3 IR unit  mounted on the BAR




You would be right; the weapon was an M1918A2 BAR with an M3 Infrared Sniperscope.



2/23/2008 8:09:16 PM EDT
[#6]
I am curious what the image looked like through the M3?

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SIERRA II ALPHA
2/26/2008 7:38:45 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I am curious what the image looked like through the M3?

IPSC_GUY
SIERRA II ALPHA


Kinda contrasty and washed out kinda like the PVS-2. They apparently worked better with no moonlight and just their dedicated IR source. Versus the PVS-2's which of course worked well with moonlight.
2/27/2008 4:53:18 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am curious what the image looked like through the M3?

IPSC_GUY
SIERRA II ALPHA


Kinda contrasty and washed out kinda like the PVS-2. They apparently worked better with no moonlight and just their dedicated IR source. Versus the PVS-2's which of course worked well with moonlight.

What kind of range did the illuminator give them?
2/28/2008 4:54:56 PM EDT
[#9]
well,the old M3 I got to look through made the pvs2 look like a third gen unit, , the M3 was good to maybe 75 yards, that was pushing it, a person standing , would just be a shape, even after playing with the focusing knob, when the light hit them, and you just had a little white slash for a aiming point(a light in the front pointing into the lense, if you look close at the pic you see the wire running up to the front of the scope
then to top it off, the power pack, was a good 15 pounds or so, with a button to get the occilator going ,remember WW2 technology

then there was the PAS 4 IR unit (60s era) which worked pretty good to about 200yds and was clear as a bell, thing was the darker it was out, the better it worked, but still like using a flashlight you only saw what was in the light, tunnel vision big time,

then you looked through the pvs2, o boy, look at that wide view, you got a reticle instead of the dang little light slash, and it seemed you could see the world through that thing
2/28/2008 6:05:29 PM EDT
[#10]
Does anyone have any good pics taken thru a pvs-2?  I would actually kind of like to have one not only for the relic appeal but also because I hear they are very much usable and I bet w/ a good IR source they'd be even better.  The thing that is keeping me from buying one is
A.  The price on these seem to be steadily rising.  Prices as of last spring and summer were around 180-240 from what I saw.  Now I am seeing them go for 300 and 400+.  Already owning good NV, it is not an absolute necessity to have one.
and
B.  Tube life.  Not having seen a gen3 or 2 when I was getting into this game, I could have easily stayed w/ a decent gen1, but the tube lifetime was a major deal breaker.  Longevity is one of the most important attributes gear like this can offer.  

But would still like to see some pics thru a pvs-2 if someone has one and would like to share.
2/29/2008 5:15:10 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am curious what the image looked like through the M3?

IPSC_GUY
SIERRA II ALPHA


Kinda contrasty and washed out kinda like the PVS-2. They apparently worked better with no moonlight and just their dedicated IR source. Versus the PVS-2's which of course worked well with moonlight.

What kind of range did the illuminator give them?


From what I've read about a hundred yards depending on the conditions. You could get further with illumination other than the built in one. Like the big IR lights off the tanks etc. One trick they used in vietnam was to have armor shine the IR lights at clouds that disperesed it and lit up the area.
2/29/2008 5:18:08 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Does anyone have any good pics taken thru a pvs-2?  I would actually kind of like to have one not only for the relic appeal but also because I hear they are very much usable and I bet w/ a good IR source they'd be even better.  The thing that is keeping me from buying one is
A.  The price on these seem to be steadily rising.  Prices as of last spring and summer were around 180-240 from what I saw.  Now I am seeing them go for 300 and 400+.  Already owning good NV, it is not an absolute necessity to have one.
and
B.  Tube life.  Not having seen a gen3 or 2 when I was getting into this game, I could have easily stayed w/ a decent gen1, but the tube lifetime was a major deal breaker.  Longevity is one of the most important attributes gear like this can offer.  

But would still like to see some pics thru a pvs-2 if someone has one and would like to share.


A: Price has pretty much always been around 400-600 lately. It depends, sometimes somone got lucky on epay but you takes your chances doing that.

B: Tube life reputedly is 1000 hours. Of course all these units have used tubes so you never know (hence the 200 PVS-2 that doesn't really work)

Pics. There are some on the web out there. Figure good center resoution say ~1/3  of the image, the next 1/3 starts getting worse, the last 1/3 sucks. There is also variability between the units.
2/29/2008 5:19:49 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
well,the old M3 I got to look through made the pvs2 look like a third gen unit, , the M3 was good to maybe 75 yards, that was pushing it, a person standing , would just be a shape, even after playing with the focusing knob, when the light hit them, and you just had a little white slash for a aiming point(a light in the front pointing into the lense, if you look close at the pic you see the wire running up to the front of the scope
then to top it off, the power pack, was a good 15 pounds or so, with a button to get the occilator going ,remember WW2 technology

then there was the PAS 4 IR unit (60s era) which worked pretty good to about 200yds and was clear as a bell, thing was the darker it was out, the better it worked, but still like using a flashlight you only saw what was in the light, tunnel vision big time,

then you looked through the pvs2, o boy, look at that wide view, you got a reticle instead of the dang little light slash, and it seemed you could see the world through that thing


The one I looked through was clearer than what you are describing, but yeah, the tunnel vision was bad. I never looked through a PAS 4, but the M3 I looked through was closer to that than you are describing.
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