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5/12/2009 6:40:32 PM EDT
[#1]
great setup guys.

anyone know where to get helmets for LARGE headed folks like myself? my noggin measures at least 61 centimeters, and most of these cut off a tiny bit before that. any suggestions of comments would be welcomed, thanks!
5/17/2009 7:54:40 AM EDT
[#2]
Hi,

Thought id post a picture from across the pond.....

Same as a number of pictures already posted; the ubiquitous PVS-14 but mounted this time on a British Mk6a ballistic helmet, mount used is the issued rhino arm and helmet mount. Would love to drill and mount onto the helmet proper but not allowed to :/





Thanks for looking,

Dave.
5/23/2009 12:31:30 AM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By DaveP3:
Hi,

Thought id post a picture from across the pond.....

Same as a number of pictures already posted; the ubiquitous PVS-14 but mounted this time on a British Mk6a ballistic helmet, mount used is the issued rhino arm and helmet mount. Would love to drill and mount onto the helmet proper but not allowed to :/

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9070/s7300825.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3030/s7300829.jpg

Thanks for looking,

Dave.


Dave,

Thanks for sharing!  We don't see too many of those on this side of the world.  I'd love to see the shroud and rhino arm in more detail if you have time to take some more pics.

As for the strap attachment; I hear ya.  The only thing I can suggest is taping down the throw lever to make sure that it doesn't catch on anything and come undone.  Also, make sure to dummy cord the optic to the helmet in case it does come off
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5/23/2009 6:45:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveP3][Edited] [#4]
Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:

Dave,

Thanks for sharing!  We don't see too many of those on this side of the world.  I'd love to see the shroud and rhino arm in more detail if you have time to take some more pics.

As for the strap attachment; I hear ya.  The only thing I can suggest is taping down the throw lever to make sure that it doesn't catch on anything and come undone.  Also, make sure to dummy cord the optic to the helmet in case it does come off


Hi,

Thanks for the comment :)

Ive taken a couple more pictures as requested, not too sure what you mean by 'shroud' though ........... Sorry



And



If you need them theres also a few more in the following gallery, hopefully they show enough detail. If not just shout :)

http://yfrog.com/10s7300830jx

Thanks for the tips on securing, when we move onto using  them 'proper' then i will no doubt follow your advice :)

Best regards,

Dave.
5/29/2009 12:01:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GySgtD][Edited] [#5]





Received the -14 from TNVC yesterday. On PASGT, with Streamlight Sidewinder (IR version).



On a field-expedient helmet stand...
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5/29/2009 4:00:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By GySgtD:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/arfcompics/100_0643.jpg

Received the -14 from TNVC yesterday. On PASGT, with Streamlight Sidewinder (IR version).

On a field-expedient helmet stand...


Let's not forget that awesome helmet light!
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6/8/2009 11:10:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Updated photos; Wilcox G12 helmet mount on my FAST Bump - also converted my PVS-14 to single battery configuration:



6/10/2009 7:45:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TNVC][Edited] [#8]
All sales have to be completed in the EE. Sorry, nice paint work though!

NV Moderator


Sure, you can have them all. One round at a time.
6/10/2009 9:10:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Originally Posted By havoc:
Updated photos; Wilcox G12 helmet mount on my FAST Bump - also converted my PVS-14 to single battery configuration:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/clintl/FAST-G12-SIDE.jpg?t=1244516840

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/clintl/FAST-G12-FRONT.jpg?t=1244516902


NICE set up!
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6/10/2009 9:24:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Thank you!  and understood....
Sure, you can have them all. One round at a time.
6/25/2009 2:44:52 AM EDT
[#11]
No disrespect, but what do you guys do with these helmet rigs? You would think that short of being in the Special Forces, the helmets and NVGs would just sit there...
6/25/2009 9:34:37 AM EDT
[#12]
Originally Posted By Firegardn77:
No disrespect, but what do you guys do with these helmet rigs? You would think that short of being in the Special Forces, the helmets and NVGs would just sit there...


are you serious bro?  what do you think they do with them.....ummm...uhhhh....hummm....maybe wear them???  Thats why a lot of guys go with the bike helmets.  They dont need ballistic protection so they go for light weight for comfort.

Duh...main reason for helmet and mount is for hands free use.  Think about it, you want to walk around all night with one hand always holding the NV?  The stock head harneses that come with them are a pain to get adjusted just right, and even then are very uncomfortable after a while.
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6/25/2009 1:11:23 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By Firegardn77:
No disrespect, but what do you guys do with these helmet rigs? You would think that short of being in the Special Forces, the helmets and NVGs would just sit there...


I guess you don't see a need...until you have a need...

I had late night intruders.  I live in the middle of nowhere.  You do the math.

Sure, you can have them all. One round at a time.
6/25/2009 1:24:19 PM EDT
[#14]




Originally Posted By FordGuy:



Originally Posted By Firegardn77:

No disrespect, but what do you guys do with these helmet rigs? You would think that short of being in the Special Forces, the helmets and NVGs would just sit there...




I guess you don't see a need...until you have a need...




I had late night intruders. I live in the middle of nowhere. You do the math.







This.
You can either use the best, or you can make up horse shit excuses about it and whine on the internet.
6/26/2009 4:48:12 AM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By Heineken:
Originally Posted By Firegardn77:
No disrespect, but what do you guys do with these helmet rigs? You would think that short of being in the Special Forces, the helmets and NVGs would just sit there...


are you serious bro?  what do you think they do with them.....ummm...uhhhh....hummm....maybe wear them???  Thats why a lot of guys go with the bike helmets.  They dont need ballistic protection so they go for light weight for comfort.

Duh...main reason for helmet and mount is for hands free use.  Think about it, you want to walk around all night with one hand always holding the NV?  The stock head harneses that come with them are a pain to get adjusted just right, and even then are very uncomfortable after a while.


Wow...while I was thinking of why you guys mount multi-thousand dollar night vision to helmets it never occurred to me that you ummm...uhhh...hummm...wear them. Captain obvious.

The answer I was looking for was what FordGuy said about the intruders in the middle of nowhere, BRO.

6/26/2009 9:43:21 AM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By Firegardn77:
No disrespect, but what do you guys do with these helmet rigs? You would think that short of being in the Special Forces, the helmets and NVGs would just sit there...


Riding quads in the dark, hunting hogs at night, stealthy surveillance during power outages, etc.

6/26/2009 9:43:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Heineken][Edited] [#17]
Originally Posted By Firegardn77:
Originally Posted By Heineken:
Originally Posted By Firegardn77:
No disrespect, but what do you guys do with these helmet rigs? You would think that short of being in the Special Forces, the helmets and NVGs would just sit there...


are you serious bro?  what do you think they do with them.....ummm...uhhhh....hummm....maybe wear them???  Thats why a lot of guys go with the bike helmets.  They dont need ballistic protection so they go for light weight for comfort.

Duh...main reason for helmet and mount is for hands free use.  Think about it, you want to walk around all night with one hand always holding the NV? The stock head harneses that come with them are a pain to get adjusted just right, and even then are very uncomfortable after a while.


Wow...while I was thinking of why you guys mount multi-thousand dollar night vision to helmets it never occurred to me that you ummm...uhhh...hummm...wear them. Captain obvious.

The answer I was looking for was what FordGuy said about the intruders in the middle of nowhere, BRO.



And if you look at my resonce then you would see I gave a totaly usefull and just as informative answer as well:

"...hands free use.  Think about it, you want to walk around all night with one hand always holding the NV?  The stock head harneses that come with them are a pain to get adjusted just right, and even then are very uncomfortable after a while"

im not psycic so no way i could have know what type of answer you were "looking for".  I love to do night hikes.  When you are on a long night hike you dont want to have to walk around holding the NV.  The helmets (even mine) which is just a PSAGT helmet with extra padding is MUCH MUCH more comfortable then the stock braincrusher head harness.
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6/26/2009 10:05:29 AM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By murderman:
Originally Posted By Firegardn77:
No disrespect, but what do you guys do with these helmet rigs? You would think that short of being in the Special Forces, the helmets and NVGs would just sit there...


Riding quads in the dark, hunting hogs at night, stealthy surveillance during power outages, etc.



good one, i forgot about how bad ass they are in power outages, one of my favorit times to pull them out.

my dad has one of those electric off road vehicals, thats very fun, no light and silent!
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7/1/2009 9:09:48 PM EDT
[#19]
Originally Posted By havoc:
Updated photos; Wilcox G12 helmet mount on my FAST Bump - also converted my PVS-14 to single battery configuration:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/clintl/FAST-G12-SIDE.jpg?t=1244516840



Tell me about the retractable item at the top of your mount

John

"Das dicke Ende kommt noch"
7/1/2009 10:54:34 PM EDT
[#20]



Originally Posted By DVLSBRGD:



Originally Posted By havoc:

Updated photos; Wilcox G12 helmet mount on my FAST Bump - also converted my PVS-14 to single battery configuration:



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/clintl/FAST-G12-SIDE.jpg?t=1244516840







Tell me about the retractable item at the top of your mount





I think it is a dummy cord for the NOD.



 
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7/2/2009 1:22:05 PM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By DVLSBRGD:
Tell me about the retractable item at the top of your mount


M1-Matt is correct - its a dummy cord / retractable lanyard for the NOD. Since the Wilcox mount is a break-away type, the lanyard keeps the NOD / mount from falling to the ground.

Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.

Clint

7/2/2009 4:43:40 PM EDT
[#22]
I wonder if you can get the retractable lanyard separately?  I bet I you can screw/bolt it on to the top of my Pro Tec helmet.
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7/2/2009 4:43:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M1-Matt][Edited] [#23]
Fail
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7/2/2009 5:14:00 PM EDT
[#24]
Originally Posted By M1-Matt:
I wonder if you can get the retractable lanyard separately?  I bet I you can screw/bolt it on to the top of my Pro Tec helmet.



Yes you can - the lanyard is available ina  few different mounting configurations. You could probably modify one to work with a Pro-Tech set-up without much effort.
7/6/2009 8:55:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BrandonP][Edited] [#25]
Just got this thing installed today.

Basic CVC helmet setup. I do want to go with a 4-point chin strap and not this 3-point thing to better distribute the weight.

In case anyone's wondering, the helmet band was taken off of my issue helmet. You've probably seen these things in IDF photos. We hand make them out of elastic material with little spaces for different items. On the back, I attached a mitznefet (one of those chef-hat things, helmet cover) and it has space for light sticks or other accessories on the sides. I will sew on a battery compartment soon.

Fun fact: in the IDF we used the helmet bands as IFF (Identify friend-foe). The pattern made on the top looks like a kippah worn by religious Jews. :)



7/7/2009 11:54:50 AM EDT
[#26]
PVS-5s, COBB bracket, ANVIS mount, HANVIS adapter, ANVIS battery pack.  Inside are 1/2" pads with two small pads replacing the crown pad to clear commo and hearing protection.





7/27/2009 5:24:30 PM EDT
[#27]
how good is the view using head mounted nv gear and a scope or eotech?
7/27/2009 7:36:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Originally Posted By perk_1405:
how good is the view using head mounted nv gear and a scope or eotech?


Not particularly practical.

7/28/2009 6:11:54 AM EDT
[#29]
Originally Posted By murderman:
Originally Posted By perk_1405:
how good is the view using head mounted nv gear and a scope or eotech?


Not particularly practical.



ok so every one with helmet rigs has to flip them up to shoot their gun?

7/28/2009 7:53:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ss10ring][Edited] [#30]
Originally Posted By perk_1405:
Originally Posted By murderman:
Originally Posted By perk_1405:
how good is the view using head mounted nv gear and a scope or eotech?


Not particularly practical.



ok so every one with helmet rigs has to flip them up to shoot their gun?



nope just use and IR laser

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=18&t=273304    (thanks for posting this)

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320402705416&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_956wt_941

with my 7's and the homebuilt laser I can hit a target at 50yds with no issues

I'm also no expert on NVG as I've had gen I for years and just upgraded to 7's and 14's recently

One big disadvantage with a weapon mount is that to use them you have to be pointing it at everything you are viewing not really the safest or smartest move. Again I'm still training and learning but I would do one of the Bell/Protech helmet setups shown and buy build a good laser and practice practice practice
7/31/2009 10:48:53 AM EDT
[#31]
Originally Posted By TopCrest:
PVS-5s, COBB bracket, ANVIS mount, HANVIS adapter, ANVIS battery pack.  Inside are 1/2" pads with two small pads replacing the crown pad to clear commo and hearing protection.

http://hayesresearch.com/PVS511.jpg

http://hayesresearch.com/PVS523.jpg

http://hayesresearch.com/532.jpg


Do you have a link to the COBB bracket? m4whore
8/18/2009 3:10:41 PM EDT
[#32]


The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.
~Ian Fleming
8/20/2009 1:04:24 PM EDT
[#33]
My PT-Helmet with Wilcox 3-hole mount and TNVC PVS-14












Chen Lee
House of the Guns


8/22/2009 5:30:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TNVC][Edited] [#34]
Nice SF helmet light MOD.  

Ya need an IR flag btw!
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8/27/2009 4:33:28 PM EDT
[#35]



BLACK RIVER MAFIA
8/27/2009 11:36:34 PM EDT
[#36]
He mine is.



I still need to add some more colors over the black later on this week




No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms
Thomas Jefferson

How fucked are we as a Nation that two dudes kissing is more acceptable than an American holding a rifle or serving his Country
8/28/2009 5:41:37 PM EDT
[#37]
TopCrest
How did you make that setup. I too have a set of 5s and would like to do something like that? Any help would be appreciated.

Thaks
8/28/2009 6:55:08 PM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
He mine is.

I still need to add some more colors over the black later on this week

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL965/4056977/12946540/372878408.jpg


Nice Free!

Have you seen the Original S.O.E. ballast pouches. AWESOME kit we be offering on the new web site for the MS 2000 along with spare batts.



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8/28/2009 11:14:39 PM EDT
[#39]
That sir is badass!!!







Originally Posted By TNVC:



Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:

He mine is.



I still need to add some more colors over the black later on this week



http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL965/4056977/12946540/372878408.jpg




Nice Free!



Have you seen the Original S.O.E. ballast pouches. AWESOME kit we be offering on the new web site for the MS 2000 along with spare batts.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/SOE%20Original%20Gear/SOEBallastA.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/SOE%20Original%20Gear/SOEBallast.jpg






 
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms
Thomas Jefferson

How fucked are we as a Nation that two dudes kissing is more acceptable than an American holding a rifle or serving his Country
8/28/2009 11:18:19 PM EDT
[#40]
Where is these items on your website??


Originally Posted By TNVC:



Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:

He mine is.



I still need to add some more colors over the black later on this week



http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL965/4056977/12946540/372878408.jpg




Nice Free!



Have you seen the Original S.O.E. ballast pouches. AWESOME kit we be offering on the new web site for the MS 2000 along with spare batts.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/SOE%20Original%20Gear/SOEBallastA.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/SOE%20Original%20Gear/SOEBallast.jpg






 
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms
Thomas Jefferson

How fucked are we as a Nation that two dudes kissing is more acceptable than an American holding a rifle or serving his Country
8/29/2009 12:57:28 AM EDT
[#41]
Forgot to put the word "will" be carrying this on our new web site.  I have them in stock, just like a few hundred other items we do not advertise.  It's coming in a few weeks but folks can call in.  Sorry.

Vic
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8/29/2009 12:31:23 PM EDT
[#42]




Originally Posted By TNVC:

Forgot to put the word "will" be carrying this on our new web site. I have them in stock, just like a few hundred other items we do not advertise.
It's coming in a few weeks but folks can call in. Sorry.



Vic




hmmm
You can either use the best, or you can make up horse shit excuses about it and whine on the internet.
9/5/2009 3:19:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GySgtD][Edited] [#43]


<inadvertently zapped pic off of the photobucket server>

The inability to distinguish between an abstract idea and material reality appears to be the mark of the American liberal. -Theo Beale
9/10/2009 11:44:45 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
He mine is.

I still need to add some more colors over the black later on this week

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL965/4056977/12946540/372878408.jpg


Nice Free!

Have you seen the Original S.O.E. ballast pouches. AWESOME kit we be offering on the new web site for the MS 2000 along with spare batts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/SOE%20Original%20Gear/SOEBallastA.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/SOE%20Original%20Gear/SOEBallast.jpg


What helmet is that?
9/11/2009 1:53:46 AM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By 1AEGW:
Originally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
He mine is.

I still need to add some more colors over the black later on this week

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL965/4056977/12946540/372878408.jpg


Nice Free!

Have you seen the Original S.O.E. ballast pouches. AWESOME kit we be offering on the new web site for the MS 2000 along with spare batts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/SOE%20Original%20Gear/SOEBallastA.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/SOE%20Original%20Gear/SOEBallast.jpg


What helmet is that?


It's a new OPS Core Bump helmet. Hope this helps.

Vic
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(909) 659-2842
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11/14/2009 11:30:01 AM EDT
[#46]
Newb here that needs some help. I have a MUM/Mini with the J-arm,the factory weapons mount, and the dreaded "skull crusher". I have saved and sold guns to finally get what I wanted and not waste my cash.

I have looked at the bump helmets from TNVC, I can afford $69-129. I am confused as to what mount to use, I assume I will use my factory arm that connects it to the "skull crusher". So what mount does the J-arm connect to? Keep in mind this is a budget project for me. Any help would be great. Guess I may have to call and bug Victor.
Bacon grease, the new Muslim approved .mil lubricant.
11/14/2009 11:41:01 AM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By zoe17:
Newb here that needs some help. I have a MUM/Mini with the J-arm,the factory weapons mount, and the dreaded "skull crusher". I have saved and sold guns to finally get what I wanted and not waste my cash.

I have looked at the bump helmets from TNVC, I can afford $69-129. I am confused as to what mount to use, I assume I will use my factory arm that connects it to the "skull crusher". So what mount does the J-arm connect to? Keep in mind this is a budget project for me. Any help would be great. Guess I may have to call and bug Victor.


You would need the Rhino flip up mount assembly and your choice on helmet  shroud (which we recommend) that allows the Rhino to snap into this or one can just use the hooks of the Rhino plate with wrap around strap.  See pics above that show the Rhino flip up assembly or HERE that shows the detailed parts of the helmet package.  Hope this helps.
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1/23/2010 1:25:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CENTCOM_Survivor][Edited] [#48]
I also went with the Bell Raction for my PVS-7 after reading over the posts here.
I bought the helmet at Sports Authority, the mount on Ebay, and the Remington light at Lowes.  
I was looking at mounting a flashlight with a rail system but I came across the new Remington Extreme Track headlamp.  It actually worked out great with the batteries in the back to offset the weight.  The LED feature has two red, two red/one blue, two red strobe.  The white light is pretty powerful (more than my Surefire executive) and also has a low setting.  The battery pack has a flashing low light LED for the rear.  I added some MICH chin straps to finish it off.  I'm really happy with the setup.














1/23/2010 2:24:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CENTCOM_Survivor][Edited] [#49]
A few detail shots of how I mounted everything.  I used heavy duty velcro on the light as I would rather have it detach from the helmet than break if I whack it on something.  I work in mostly urban areas so I'm not worried about snagging it on jungle vines etc.  I was able to tuck the light wire into one of the vent holes and since its coiled it stays in place.  I looped a piece of 550 cord on the battery pack which can be removed using the NVG mount button.  It was like the light was made for a helmet!  
Since the light is designed to be worn as a head mount and now its on its side, I added some grip tape near the LED controls for quick reference.  






Updated another light to Krylon OD green:


1/24/2010 3:14:54 AM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Originally Posted By M1-Matt:
I have the Pro-Tec simply because I do not need a ballistic helmet as I am just a civilian.  I hear that the head mount you get with your NOD sucks.  I just wanted a simple lightweight set up that works, the side rail made a great place to mount  the Da-Torch, this way my hands are free to deal with the dog as I walk him a night.


If I end up in a situation where I'm wearing my NV and actually need the ballistic protection for my noggin, I have made some incredibly poor choices!

That said....

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh408/Specop_007/AR1.jpg

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh408/Specop_007/AR4.jpg


I actually laughed out loud...
-Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G.I. ~ One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
-One good shoot by a citizen can clear up more open cases than a week of detective work!

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