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Originally Posted By bigbore: Original transferable IMI UZI Originally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By VTD: What kind of machine gun? Is it bigger than a bread box? Original transferable IMI UZI I would think that is worth a lot more than $25k? |
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Originally Posted By RenegadeX: Keep in mind UPS and Fedex have made it harder to ship firearms and do not even accept MGs anymore because there employees were stealing them. Originally Posted By RenegadeX: Originally Posted By Damocles1971: The USPS is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Keep in mind UPS and Fedex have made it harder to ship firearms and do not even accept MGs anymore because there employees were stealing them. FedEx was always garbage, I noticed UPS went to shit when I started seeing a lot more DEI hires. USPS is always hit or miss when it's a miss good luck getting any resolution. |
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Originally Posted By JKH62: Congrats on not letting them worm out of their failed agreement. They don't like to pay when they break or lose things. They really don't like it when it's a large dollar amount. Some USPS workers should be fired. Originally Posted By JKH62: Originally Posted By bigbore: $114 Congrats on not letting them worm out of their failed agreement. They don't like to pay when they break or lose things. They really don't like it when it's a large dollar amount. Some USPS workers should be fired. "Lose"? How about "steal"? |
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Originally Posted By Dc204: I would bet ATF and the Postal Inspection 1811s are going to be all up in this. I’ve worked with the postal guys before and they are actually pretty good at what they do although a lesser known criminal investigation agency Originally Posted By Dc204: Originally Posted By DV8EDD: Would this warrant involvement from a three letter agency being it's a restricted item? I would bet ATF and the Postal Inspection 1811s are going to be all up in this. I’ve worked with the postal guys before and they are actually pretty good at what they do although a lesser known criminal investigation agency Not at all my experience with Postal Inspection Service. What I was involved in they did zero investigation just took someone's word for it. Inspection Service started accusing me of something and my only reply was; 1. You need to actually review the tape of the incident in question, none of that happened. And 2. You actually need evidence before you accuse me of something and threaten my job. Apparently they decided reviewing the footage would be a good idea before the Union got involved and I sued them personally. Never heard from them again, told them I expect an apology from the idiot errr... agent who did this. Like the rest of Law Enforcement, they too are completley useless. But if it makes you feel better 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Originally Posted By far_right: I know its not fool proof by any means, but id throw (and have in the past) a $25 airtag in a package like that just to track it through the system... Did Apple change the notification thing they implemented? |
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Originally Posted By heavyduty: Steve, how large was the box? I was always told use a very oversized box so it’s harder to conceal. the size of luggage that's too big to be carried on a plane. The UZI shipped in a briefcase and the briefcase was packed in the box. They could have taken it out of the box. |
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I would bet you get paid within 30 to 60 days of claim approval. It should probably be spelled out somewhere in their regulations and you should ask the Customer Service Rep you spoke to after it was approved to see if she can get the payment expedited. Hopefully they find the UZI after you get paid and the NFA folks make sure it gets returned to you. At that point you will have both the UZI and the $25k cash so basically a free UZI and just play dumb and make damn sure not to ask any questions whatsoever to anyone at USPS beginning right now what should you do if it turns up someday. Just deposit that money in a CD if you can for a few months to see if the Uzi is found and let that money earn interest and make the USPS come after you for a refund if the UZI ever turns up. They are probably so incompetent that they might never ask for their money back especially if you make it difficult for them. If they do want their money back just do the same thing to them that they did to you and make them pursue you for as long as you can stall them and aggravate them as much as possible. Make sure to drag your feet and make their life hell. See if you can wear them out. |
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Originally Posted By Alex3006: I would bet you get paid within 30 to 60 days of claim approval. It should probably be spelled out somewhere in their regulations and you should ask the Customer Service Rep you spoke to after it was approved to see if she can get the payment expedited. Hopefully they find the UZI after you get paid and the NFA folks make sure it gets returned to you. At that point you will have both the UZI and the $25k cash so basically a free UZI and just play dumb and make damn sure not to ask any questions whatsoever to anyone at USPS beginning right now what should you do if it turns up someday. Just deposit that money in a CD if you can for a few months to see if the Uzi is found and let that money earn interest and make the USPS come after you for a refund if the UZI ever turns up. They are probably so incompetent that they might never ask for their money back especially if you make it difficult for them. If they do want their money back just do the same thing to them that they did to you and make them pursue you for as long as you can stall them and aggravate them as much as possible. Make sure to drag your feet and make their life hell. See if you can wear them out. I highly doubt op will get both- once insurance pays its one or the other. often accepting a payment comes with the loss of the item as you have been paid and made whole. ymmv |
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Originally Posted By nutter: I highly doubt op will get both- once insurance pays its one or the other. often accepting a payment comes with the loss of the item as you have been paid and made whole. ymmv If the police in Salina, Kansas find this UZI and run a NIC check they will turn it over to the ATF who will return it to me. The USPS will have no idea any of that happened. If/when that happens, I'll deal with it then. |
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Originally Posted By bustedtrigger137: This was the lead story on the Detroit NBC affiliate (Channel 4 WDIV) tonight. Hopefully you get some traction. Cool. Hopefully they'll put it on their site so I can see it. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: Cool. Hopefully they'll put it on their site so I can see it. Looks like they waited until after it aired. |
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Originally Posted By bustedtrigger137: This was the lead story on the Detroit NBC affiliate (Channel 4 WDIV) tonight. I did not see any stray UZIs. |
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Originally Posted By DrMark: I just got back from Detroit tonight. I did not see any stray UZIs. UZI is passe in the era of switches 
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder: Was it ATF who entered the gun into NCIC? No, it was my local sheriff. If someone looks it up, they'll let me know and I'll call my contact at the NFA/Stolen dept.. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: Last seen in Detroit on 2/5. Let's see what happens when I submit the $25K insurance claim. ETA Yes many do. Yes, the United States Postal Service (USPS) uses security cameras and video surveillance within many of its sorting, processing, and distribution facilities. These systems are designed to enhance security, ensure the accountability of employees handling mail, and protect property. |
| The USPS confirmed with Channel 4 yesterday that the Postal Inspectors turned the investigation over to the OIG. The OIG doesn't get involved with missing packages. The OIG gets involved when there is theft. |
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This popped up in my youtube feed this morning. Machine gun shipped through USPS goes missing in Detroit |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: Spoke to consumer affairs manager this morning on the phone, and confirmed it was stolen. I would have been all “No shit, Sherlock!l But I imagine that thing is either in Mexico or the bottom of the lake now. |
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| In 09/2010 I had an rr ar15 disappear from the usps . It was missing for about 90-100 days and then it just showed up 1 day with an apology from the post man. I did everything OP did and no one really seemed concerned. I notified atf that it had been stolen via letter and they responded noting the theft. When it was returned to be me by usps I wrote atf again and notified them it had been recovered. They responded via letter that I was now once again in possession of my mg. My claim was denied. The gunsmith that sent it back to me failed to insure it for the proper amount- he owned his mistake and said he would make up the difference. The post master at my local hub assured me that would find it- . Lucky for me it all worked out- I got my gun back. I no longer mail them- if I’m gonna sell I will get travel papers to the destination and drive it myself to the dealer for a fee. If any of my stuff needs smithing, I will drive it. My only concern is that when you sell this ar- the atf will deny the transfer do to a clerical error saying it’s stolen. Luckily- I still have my letters from atf regarding its loss and recovery. |
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Originally Posted By hawkin: All I know is that if the uzi ever shows up and the usps wants their money back I would take my sweet ass time and send them a couple denial letters first. Play the game. . * "I don't know what happened. I mailed you a refund check, must have gotten stolen"  |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: If the police in Salina, Kansas find this UZI and run a NIC check they will turn it over to the ATF who will return it to me. The USPS will have no idea any of that happened. If/when that happens, I'll deal with it then. |
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I hate the USPS so much lately, everything I get is delayed sometimes by massive amounts of time. Everyone has always claimed "registered mail is ultra safe they sent the hope diamond that way...". Well, like everything else with the enshittification of the USPS, it looks like registered mail is falling apart like the rest of USPS. I recently had a registered package go missing for 2 weeks, no one could tell me anything, and then suddenly it started moving again. I really dont know how anyone at this point can use USPS in course of commerce anymore. I also had an eBay buyer get a forced refund from me because the USPS was playing games with the package, it was only a $25 item so I really didnt care about the loss, but it spoke to larger issues at play within the USPS. It was also delayed some 2 weeks, the buyer got it. but I realized the USPS is failing and cant be trusted or relied upon in any way shape or form anymore. They say that the current employee who last signed for the registered package is personally held responsible for the financial loss of the item, I wonder how true it is, somehow I doubt it. Granted, I dont think it would be fair to hold the employee responsible if it were a true case of theft, where some other employee broke into the locked cage and stole items forcefully. But if the theft is due to negligence on the employees part then yes, they should be held personally responsible. Registered mail was supposed to be the most sacred and trusted option, but now we see it cant be trusted. UPS may not allow MGs but ive still seen them send that way recently. I guess an insurance claim would not be paid out, but at least with UPS its got a much better chance of showing up with next AM delivery option. |
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Originally Posted By Juggar: They say that the current employee who last signed for the registered package is personally held responsible for the financial loss of the item, I wonder how true it is, somehow I doubt it. The only way would be if a court ordered restitution (and enforced it). |
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Originally Posted By SilasB: This popped up in my youtube feed this morning.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMHxvxLzID0Saw that too. |
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Originally Posted By Slash: I once spent a weekend in Salina, KS. It felt like a month. Time moves very slowly there. I got stranded in Manhattan once because the jumper that did the Salina>Manhattan>St Louis route got all befuddled because of fog. On the upside, I did spend an hour and a half in Manhattan talking quail with the head of the state wildlife agency. That, and my hunting partner’s leftover knee replacement pain meds kept me sane. And brother, you haven’t lived until you argued with MCI gate agents about whether you can check that pelican case full of guns and ammo on the return trip. |
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Man, that is a dream gun there. Sorry to hear that but hopefully now that OIG is involved it will turn up and the thief who stole sent to prison. USPS or customs lost an expensive sword I bought from overseas and it got lost in NYC. That shit hole of a place. Neither customs or USPS took responsibility but blamed each other. What a frustrating ordeal. Probably hanging in some hood rats cave. |
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Originally Posted By Slash: I once spent a weekend in Salina, KS. It felt like a month. Time moves very slowly there. Originally Posted By Slash: Originally Posted By bigbore: If the police in Salina, Kansas find this UZI and run a NIC check they will turn it over to the ATF who will return it to me. The USPS will have no idea any of that happened. If/when that happens, I'll deal with it then. 
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Originally Posted By Ironmaker: $20k or $25k...I thought I saw both amounts mentioned in previous posts. I paid a $5K wisdom tax. My wife reminds me every day, I was hoping to avoiding it here. That $5k loss doesn't bother me. I've never insured a machine gun that I shipped registered mail for more than $5k until this UZI. I always thought putting the big insurance amount would get it more unwanted attention. I honestly believed registered would never get lost, and I packed well enough that damage wasnt a concern, so why spend the money to insure for the full amount? On the odds it was damaged in transit I always figured $5K was a good amount to cover any need repair. For whatever reason, I had a bad feeling when I was standing in the post office filling out the forms so this one so I put $20K insurance on it. Below is the receipt from another C&R UZI I sold for $25K the week before this one got stolen. I only insured it for $5K and it was delivered without issue.  |
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