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Posted: 9/8/2022 8:35:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwmc: With e-file available, why did you do a paper Form 4? This was a can that was purchased from an individual out of state. Had to go on a Form 4 to a dealer in his state first. In that case the only option is a Paper Form 4. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2022 8:07:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcordell: This was a can that was purchased from an individual out of state. Had to go on a Form 4 to a dealer in his state first. In that case the only option is a Paper Form 4. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcordell: Originally Posted By bmwmc: With e-file available, why did you do a paper Form 4? This was a can that was purchased from an individual out of state. Had to go on a Form 4 to a dealer in his state first. In that case the only option is a Paper Form 4. Genuinely curious about a two month approval. Individual in another state transferred to a dealer in your state? That's what took 2 months? Once a dealer in your state had the can, he could have e-filed to you. I don't see how it would matter used vs new can. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 8:19:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
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Posted: 9/9/2022 3:56:20 AM EDT
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Individual Silencer through SS
Submitted 08/13/21 Pending 08/23/21 Approved 08/27/22 To Dealer 09/2/22 |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 12:52:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mcordell]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwmc: Genuinely curious about a two month approval. Individual in another state transferred to a dealer in your state? That's what took 2 months? Once a dealer in your state had the can, he could have e-filed to you. I don't see how it would matter used vs new can. Nope, individual directly to a dealer in their same state and then Form 3 to a dealer in my state. Suppressor was purchased from an individual out of state. The process for this is generally as follows: The individual files a Form 4 (the person who currently has possession of the suppressor/person selling the can) to get it transferred to a FFL/SOT in their state so it can then be placed on a Form 3 (FFL/SOT to FFL/SOT) to the receiving dealer that is out of state. In this case the first Form 4 from the individual (party selling the can) to the FFL/SOT (in their state) has to be done via a paper Form 4. Once it arrives on a Form 3 to the out of state FFL/SOT it can then go on a Form 4 (to the end purchaser / individual) that can be e-filed. Alternatively - some dealers that are out of state may be cool with receiving a class 3 item from an individual. In my case they were not, so had to go through a local FFL to get it on a Form 3 first. The additional Form 3 doesn't add much wait at all. Just a little bit more of a pain in the ass. End result was still a paper form 4 that got approved in under 3 months. Sorry if that was long winded. Probably could have articulated that better. |
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Posted: 9/10/2022 2:47:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: steve8140]
[#6]
Paper form 4 - suppressor
Trust with two responsible people Dead Air Sandman-S Purchased 5/30/21 Went pending 6/18/21 Approved 9/2/22 Pickup from dealer 9/10/22 Examiner was Danela Gilbert 468 days since purchase date. 442 days from pending to approved. Just shy of 15 months. This is my first suppressor. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 9/11/2022 3:07:17 AM EDT
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Paper form 4 trust suppressor
ATF check cashed 7/22/2021 Stamp date approved 8/26/2022 |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/11/2022 10:16:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcordell: Nope, individual directly to a dealer in their same state and then Form 3 to a dealer in my state. Suppressor was purchased from an individual out of state. The process for this is generally as follows: The individual files a Form 4 (the person who currently has possession of the suppressor/person selling the can) to get it transferred to a FFL/SOT in their state so it can then be placed on a Form 3 (FFL/SOT to FFL/SOT) to the receiving dealer that is out of state. In this case the first Form 4 from the individual (party selling the can) to the FFL/SOT (in their state) has to be done via a paper Form 4. Once it arrives on a Form 3 to the out of state FFL/SOT it can then go on a Form 4 (to the end purchaser / individual) that can be e-filed. Alternatively - some dealers that are out of state may be cool with receiving a class 3 item from an individual. In my case they were not, so had to go through a local FFL to get it on a Form 3 first. The additional Form 3 doesn't add much wait at all. Just a little bit more of a pain in the ass. End result was still a paper form 4 that got approved in under 3 months. Sorry if that was long winded. Probably could have articulated that better. How long was the initial form 4 to dealer? I’m a FFL/SOT and I bought a Sten out of state from a private individual and was just curious. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:19:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jeremywills]
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Sandman S MIL in FDE.
Trust on paper form 4 Submitted May 5 2021 Approved Aug 30 2022 Emailed from dealer and in hand Sep 13 2022 Tottal of 481 days from submitted to in hand. Longest wait for me yet. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 9:32:26 AM EDT
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Form 4 individual
Purchased 7/30/21 Check cashed 9/18/21 Approved 9/06/22 In hand 9/13/22 Keith D. Hammond |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Form 4 Individual
Rex Silentium MG7 Purchased: 6/3/2021 Check Cashed: 6/30/2021 Approved: 8/18/2022 Received at Dealer: 9/13/2022 440 days between the check cashing and receiving the stamp at my dealer. |
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DC, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2022 2:01:26 PM EDT
[#12]
Form 4 Individual
YHM Resonator K Purchased: July/2021 Check Cashed: 8/3/2021 Approved: ????? Received at Dealer: 9/20/2022 Just got the call 5 minutes ago. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 10:18:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Form 4 trust
Purchased 8/1/2021 Can in hand 9/20/22 |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 2:39:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Silencer- Individual
Purchased: 10/02/2021 Check cashed: 10/12/2021 Approved: 09/13/2022 Wolverine PBS-1 It’s a nice piece. I have a bunch of adapters. Can’t wait to break it in. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:17:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: whiteryno]
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Form 4 trust
1 RP YHM turbo K Check Cashed: 9/9/2021 Approved form Received at Dealer: 9/21/2022 |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 2:30:06 AM EDT
[#16]
F4 - Trust
Purchased 3 cans 2017 (under FFL) - and kept under FFL until Sep. 2022* - Submitted F4 Aug 2021 -all 3 - Approved F4 Sep 2022 -all 3 - Took 2 weeks for the F4's to arrive in the mail. From F4s put in mailbox, to approved F4s received - 13 months - *Posted this, since I figured they lost the F3...couldn't find records, etc. No issues on that side, it all went well. |
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Posted: 9/23/2022 3:16:54 PM EDT
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Form4 2 person Trust
Deadair Mask HD Deadair giveaway: 7/04/21 Check Cashed: 8/06/21 Approved: 8/31/22 Received at Dealer: 9/23/2022 414 days between the check cashing and receiving the stamp at my dealer. |
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DC, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2022 9:54:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Second stamp back in 3 days
Form 4 Individual Silencerco Sparrow Purchased: October 3, 2021 Check Cashed: October 12, 2021 Approved: ????? Received at Dealer: 9/23/2022 |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 11:00:56 AM EDT
[#19]
Form 4 Paper - Individual
Mailed - 10/2/21 Checked Cashed - 10/7/21 Approved - 9/13/22 In hand - 9/25/22 354 days between check cashing and stamp being received |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 5:46:23 PM EDT
[#20]
Paper form 4 - suppressor
Trust with two responsible people Rugged Obsidian 9 Purchased 8/22/21 Went pending 9/17/21 Approved 9/14/22 Pickup from dealer 9/26/22 Examiner was Sara B. Free???? 400 days since purchase date. 362 days from pending to approved. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 7:26:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: swampvol]
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Form 4/Individual
Ruger Silent-SR Rimfire can. Check cashed 9/22/2021 Approve 9/14/2022 At Dealer 9/26/2022 Too lazy to do the math, but I know it's too damn long. ETA: (26-22)+365 = 369 days from cashed to delivered lol |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 7:03:06 AM EDT
[#22]
Form 4 Individual
Purchased 08/22/21 Pending 09/14/21 Approved 09/16/22 Picked up 09/26/22 |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 2:12:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: michealj]
[#23]
Q Half Nelson.
Purchased: 13 Sept. 2021 Transfer to dealer: 13 Oct 2021 Form 4: Individual Mailed: 17 Oct 2021 Approved: 20 Sept 2022 Arrived at dealer: 26 Sept 2022 |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 3:39:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zip196]
[#24]
YHM Turbo T2
Silencer Shop single shot Purchased 7/30/21 Check cashed 8/24/21 Stamp at dealer 9/27/22 Picked up 9/29/22 FATF |
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USA
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Posted: 10/5/2022 12:27:45 AM EDT
[#25]
Paper form 4
Filed 7/17/21 Pending 10/18/21 Picked up today 9/4/22 No clue when it was approved, but I got the email and picked up today |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 6:58:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: high-drag_low-speed]
[#26]
YHM R9
Trust Silencer Shop Purchased: 6/21/21 from Hanshon Bros At my dealer: 7/23/21? Filed: 8/6/21 Checked cashed: 8/17/21 Approved: 9/3/22 Stamp at dealer: ? Dealer called and picked up on: 10/7/22 |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 12:19:17 PM EDT
[#27]
Purchased November 1, 2021
Check cashed November 12, 2021 Approved October 3, 2022 |
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Posted: 10/10/2022 6:39:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: shortround]
[#28]
Paper Form 4 Trust Suppressor - purchased through Silencershop. 1 RP.
ATF cashed check 09/17/2021 Stamp approved 9/29/2022 Stamp arrived at dealer 10/10/2022 388 days. |
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Posted: 10/11/2022 5:26:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Two F4 silencers, both with the same dates:
Mailed: 10/25/2021 Cashed: 11/4/2021 Approved: 9/27/2022 At Dealer: 10/7/2022 |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 12:46:48 AM EDT
[#30]
Form 4 Individual
Rad 22 Suppressor Filed 3/4/22 Approved 10/12/22 My first suppressor. Mailed paperwork for 2 SBR the same day in March and both were approved in less than 2 months. Makes no sense that this should take 7 months assuming background checks are the same. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 10:11:34 AM EDT
[#31]
SiCo Omega 300 purchased through Capital Armory on a 1 RP trust.
Purchased 7/2/21 Docusign 7/2/21 Check mailed 7/7/21 Received 9/21/21 Check cashed ??? Approved ??? Stamp at CA 10/12/22 |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/13/2022 11:14:16 PM EDT
[#32]
Wolfman 9mm
1 RP Trust Submitted 10/9/21 Approved 09/29/22 In hand 10/13/22 369 days total |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 9:08:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gloworm19]
[#33]
YHM Turbo K, Form 4, individual
Submitted: 11/04/21 Checked cashed about 2 wks later Approved: 10/12/22 Stamp arrived, item picked up at my FFL: 10/18/22 349 days in jail, but she's free now.  |
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USA
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Posted: 10/22/2022 11:36:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Paper form 4 through SS kiosk
Trust with one responsible person YHM Turbo K Purchased 5/14/21 Form 4 mailed 5/17/21 Check cashed 5/24/21 Approved 6/7/22 Finally got around to checking on it on 9/13/22 and was told it had been approved on 6/7/22. Original tax stamp supposedly lost in mail. Took two weeks after second attempt to get a copy of the approved form for it to arrive. Finally picked up on 10/11/22. 389 days purchased to approved |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2022 3:04:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Form 4 individual
YHM Turbo T2 Purchased: 1Oct2021 Check cashed: 4Nov2021 Approved: 27Sep2022 Picked up: 20Oct2022 |
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Posted: 10/24/2022 9:57:27 PM EDT
[#36]
Form 4 Single Shot Trust
Submitted: 11/11/2021 Check Cashed: 11/21/2021 Approved: 10/17/2022 At Dealer: 10/24/2022 337 days between check cashed and stamp at the dealer. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 8:44:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chargerdude70]
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Form 4 Trust 1 RP
Sons first NFA item Purchased: 09/06/2021 CK cashed: 10/01/2021 Approved: 10/07/2022 At Dealer: 10/21/2022 371 days Ck cashed to approval 410 days purchase to to dealer |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/26/2022 10:12:07 PM EDT
[#38]
2 Supressors….paper form 4
2 person trust Check cashed 9/17/21 Approved/signed 9/22/22 Form at dealer 10/22/22 The numbers one this thread are ridiculous, but these were my last paper form 4s |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/28/2022 1:35:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Sig MCX SBR
Trust, 1 RP Purchased 8/26/21 Check Cashed 9/11/21 Stamp approved 8/11/22 Called by dealer 8/26/22 1 full year. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 7:59:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: carholio]
[#40]
YHM Turbo T2 - Silencer Shop paper form 4 - trust
Purchased - 11/4/21 My local SS dealer submitted form to ATF - 11/18/21 Approved - 10/21/22 Picked up - 11/1/22 3 days shy of a full year from date of purchase. . |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:04:54 PM EDT
[#41]
Individual - Sico Hybrid 46
Purchased 9-21-21 Cashed 10-19-21 Approved 10-20-22 Mailed stamp to dealer 10-25-22 Picked up 11-4-22 410 days Examiner - N. Hartsoc |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2022 9:50:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sks447]
[#42]
YHM Stinger .22 can.
Paper form 4 at dealer. Purchased 9/28/2021 Check cashed ? Approved 10/3/2022 Received 11/5/2022 404 days. Fun fact - Anyone could have made and had a baby in a shorter period of time. |
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Posted: 11/10/2022 8:06:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bnielsonak47]
[#43]
Trust-2 person for an OSS(at the time) 7.62
ATF cashed check Dec 16th 2021 Approved Oct 28th 2022 Picked up 11/10/2022 I can’t math right now |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2022 10:31:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11B3XCIB]
[#44]
Individual Paper Form 4
Purchased through SS: 11/08/21 Pending with ATF: 11/29/21 Approved: 11/02/22 ETA: Picked up: 11/14/22 |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 2:37:20 PM EDT
[#45]
SF 762Mini SS Single Shot Trust
Check cashed 12/1/21 Approved 10/29/22 333 days from check cashing Pickup up 11/8/22 |
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USA
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Posted: 11/13/2022 1:35:59 AM EDT
[#46]
Colt m16a2
Form 4 paper, trust, 1 RP Ohio Pending 1/24/22 Approved 11/4/22 Received 11/12/22 286 days by my math. Finally...I am usually on the other side of the bell curve! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2022 11:12:11 AM EDT
[#47]
Dead Air - Nomad 30
Trust - 2 RP Purchased: 11/08/2021 Check Cashed: 11/18/2021 Approved: 10/17/2022 Dealer called: 11/11/2022 Picked Up: 11/12/2022 Examiner: Kristin McFalls |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 7:44:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Real_PhillBert]
[#48]
Rugged Razor 7.62 - Individual
Purchased - 11/8/2021 Submitted - 12/2/2021 Check Cashed - 12/18/2021 Approved - 11/7/2022 Arrived at dealer - 11/21/2022 In hand - 11/22/2022 Examiner - Trish Bartles 355 days from submission to in hand. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 4:08:39 PM EDT
[#49]
Form 4 Suppressor Individual.
In state to in state. Submitted 02.01.2022 Pending 02.07.2022 Approved 11.14.2022 |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2022 9:27:14 PM EDT
[#50]
YHM Turbo K
Form mailed 10/1/2021 Check cashed 10/8/2021 Called ATF 10/27/2022 (approval was 9/19/2022) Dealer requested certified copy 10/27/2022 Called ATF 11/15/2022 no record of dealers request Dealer requested certified copy second time 11/15/2022 Original stamp at dealer 12/2/2022 (post marked 11/22/2022) 346 days check cashed to approval 74 days approval to stamp at dealer Fired a few shots into the night because I believe in trying new toys immediately. Think I'm going to like it. |
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