Armory Sponsor
Posted: 5/1/2017 5:01:41 PM EDT
|
Hopefully someone in the DFW area can give some insight. I have tried six USPS location and none will allow any firearm mailings to any other person unless I am a dealer. I have spoken to the postmaster ine one of the cities and she flat out would not accept any gun nor would she look at any of the copies of the CFR, DMM or the "ATF FAQ" about non-licensees shipping to out of state dealers.
Anyone else run into this issue? I called a Ph# the postaster gave me for the "Mailability Requirements Division" of the USPS. First she asked if it was a pistol or a rifle. I said No, it is a machine gun. Her response, after a pause, is that there is NO mention of machine gun, therefore, it is not mailable. I was on the phone for 20 minutes with her and she would not give an inch on anything. Only that machine guns are not explicitly allowed. I asked about sending a Rifle, and she again said it had to be from a dealer, to a dealer. These people are not reading their own rules I am showing them!? Should I just keep trying rural USPS? Put the dias in a rifle and send? Send Fedex, suck it up if lost in the mail? (Is insured through CollectInsure..) Just not tell them and ship registered? Of course, this one piece is specifically outlined in Regulations, so..would rather not. |
|
Anna. I'll see it when I believe it though. Two other post offices said "Yes" until I showed up and the worker or postmaster said she would not allow it and could not point me to where it is not allowed.
I'd never had this issue before though it has been a few years. I used to think USPS was just misunderstood and wrongfully vilified. |
|
Quoted:
Anna. I'll see it when I believe it though. Two other post offices said "Yes" until I showed up and the worker or postmaster said she would not allow it and could not point me to where it is not allowed. I'd never had this issue before though it has been a few years. I used to think USPS was just misunderstood and wrongfully vilified. Every single USPS employee, without exception, is a POS. I tried shipping a rifle to a dealer via USPS exactly one time before I decided transactions will either be FTF or ship with FedEx. |
|
I guess I would ship Fedex/UPS if I had to. They do not accept them. I assume if it was lost, they would not care and obviously deny all insurance claims.
Insurance pays a reduced amount if anything were lost. I would rather usps just read the rules. A lot of misinformation and blind following of authority with no way to appeal with them. |
| Thread #8700 on this topic. Same answer. Don't use USPS for that ! Yes, they are fucktards that do not know their own rules. Does not change the fact if you want reasonable shipping service with firearms you have only 2 choices. UPS & FedX. OP's pain is self inflicted. |
|
As mentioned I ship out of Anna. I have only had one problem person, and fortunately the Postmaster was there and fixed it for me. I shipped a KAC-MP5SD silencer yesterday morning without issue.
Westminster is a joke, she (Postmaster no less) said no firearms at all, for anyone, all while handing me a inbound box and like a smart-ass I asked her if she could guess what was in it. No problems at Blue Ridge, or Melissa either. Other than Westminster, it is mostly an employee problem, not a site problem. |
|
Quoted:
Thread #8700 on this topic. Same answer. Don't use USPS for that ! Yes, they are fucktards that do not know their own rules. Does not change the fact if you want reasonable shipping service with firearms you have only 2 choices. UPS & FedX. OP's pain is self inflicted. |
|
Quoted:
UPS. Shipped many of MG etc from me to dealer/gunsmith and never a hitch. https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/guidelines/firearms.html UPS does not accept automatic weapons, including machine guns, for shipment. Firearms (including handguns) and firearm parts are not accepted for shipment internationally. UPS Returns® Services are not available for packages containing firearms. Sure you might it pas them with "parts" but if it is lost/stolen, you are hosed. |
|
Quoted:
If you are shipping a MG USPS is the ONLY an answer. They accept it unlike UPS, FEDEX, and you can insure it up to $25K or so. Tempted to contact higher authorities as stated in Pub 52 for appeal of shipping. But most people I talk to just think I should be ok with status quo and lucky they are not outright outlawed by administrative rule. |
|
Quoted:
....Anyone else run into this issue? <----FFL/SOT (meaning I can mail firearms that mere mortals cannot) Not unusual. I've had two "educational sessions" with post office employees here in Plano. I stood my ground and told them where to find what firearms could be shipped in the Domestic Mail Manual. They now know, but I'm sure I'll have to do it again someday. I called a Ph# the postaster gave me for the "Mailability Requirements Division" of the USPS. First she asked if it was a pistol or a rifle. I said No, it is a machine gun. Her response, after a pause, is that there is NO mention of machine gun, therefore, it is not mailable. I was on the phone for 20 minutes with her and she would not give an inch on anything. Only that machine guns are not explicitly allowed. I asked about sending a Rifle, and she again said it had to be from a dealer, to a dealer.
These people are not reading their own rules I am showing them!? Should I just keep trying rural USPS? Put the dias in a rifle and send? Send Fedex, suck it up if lost in the mail? (Is insured through CollectInsure..) Just not tell them and ship registered? Of course, this one piece is specifically outlined in Regulations, so..would rather not. |
|
Quoted:
They stopped accepting MGs a few years ago. https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/guidelines/firearms.html UPS does not accept automatic weapons, including machine guns, for shipment. Firearms (including handguns) and firearm parts are not accepted for shipment internationally. UPS Returns® Services are not available for packages containing firearms. Sure you might it pas them with "parts" but if it is lost/stolen, you are hosed. |
Armory Sponsor