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Posted: 9/27/2013 5:01:08 PM EDT
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Disclosure (I am not suggesting this, nor am I interested in doing it)
So for starters I was reading a thread in GD  about why people dont take pictures of their firearms with the s/n showing, and someone said because someone could copy that s/n and then use the gun in a crime or report it stolen...
My brain went a different direction... Whats stopping a person from lets say buying 2 or more 80% lowers, engraving them with the same S/N and only submitting once for a SBR? What sort of laws prevent this? |
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Whats stopping a person from lets say buying 2 or more 80% lowers, engraving them with the same S/N and only submitting once for a SBR? What sort of laws prevent this? You are required to assign a unique serial to firearms you make which require a serial number. You're free to make two Title 1 lowers with the same "serial" if you wish (unless you're a manufacturer), but if you turned them into Title 2 SBRs, you'd be required to reserial them to make them unique. Only your respect for the law can make you do it, but not doing it would leave you vulnerable to prosecution if it were officially discovered. |
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You are required to assign a unique serial to firearms you make which require a serial number. You're free to make two Title 1 lowers with the same "serial" if you wish (unless you're a manufacturer), but if you turned them into Title 2 SBRs, you'd be required to reserial them to make them unique. Only your respect for the law can make you do it, but not doing it would leave you vulnerable to prosecution if it were officially discovered. Quoted:
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Whats stopping a person from lets say buying 2 or more 80% lowers, engraving them with the same S/N and only submitting once for a SBR? What sort of laws prevent this? You are required to assign a unique serial to firearms you make which require a serial number. You're free to make two Title 1 lowers with the same "serial" if you wish (unless you're a manufacturer), but if you turned them into Title 2 SBRs, you'd be required to reserial them to make them unique. Only your respect for the law can make you do it, but not doing it would leave you vulnerable to prosecution if it were officially discovered. Bingo. Thats what I thought, just wasnt sure where to look, and knew someone here would know 
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| It's the same thing that stops you and I from robbing a bank....because we follow the law. That is what separates us from criminals. Granted bank robbery is a horrible comparison cuz yer likelihood of getting caught is very high, whereas multiple lowers with one serial number registered as SBR's is very unlikely to be discovered, however I'd wonder why risk it, you wouldn't be able to have the same lowers out in public without fear of being discovered. And with an AR, having multiple uppers swap between one host is so easy. I guess it comes down to risk vs reward. |
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well, it seems pretty obvious to me
you'd have one genuine SBR with papers and one un-papered counterfeit gun the un-papered gun would be contraband two guns and one NFA paper means one gun is left standing when the music stops if you got nabbed doing this, your lawyer fees would burn up the cost of the $200 tax stamp in the first half hour |
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well, it seems pretty obvious to me you'd have one genuine SBR with papers and one un-papered counterfeit gun the un-papered gun would be contraband two guns and one NFA paper means one gun is left standing when the music stops if you got nabbed doing this, your lawyer fees would burn up the cost of the $200 tax stamp in the first half hour LOL I am not looking to do this as I knew it was wrong, but didnt know the verbiage that prevents something like this from happening, Hence why I asked. Thank you guys for the comments
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It's just a matter of time before BATFE outlaws manufacturing your own firearm for your own use anyway.
They already have legislation waiting in the wings: http://democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/index.php?q=bill/hr-2910-the-gun-violence-prevention-and-reduction-act-of-2013 TITLE I: BANNING ACCESS TO DO-IT-YOURSELF ASSAULT WEAPONS Sec. 101. Do-It-Yourself Assault Weapon Ban. • Prohibits the sale (including Internet sales) of firearm receiver castings or blanks (that when completed function as firearm frames or receivers and are sometimes called “80% receivers” or “95% receivers”), assault weapon parts kits, and machinegun parts kits. Sec. 102. Prohibition of Advertising Do-It-Yourself Assault Weapons. • Prohibits the marketing and advertising of firearm receiver castings or blanks (that when completed function as firearm frames or receivers and are sometimes called “80% receivers” or “95% receivers”), assault weapon parts kits, and machinegun parts kits through the Internet and other types of electronic communications. Sec. 103. Definitions. • Defines terms related to do-it-yourself assault weapons for purposes of Title I. Sec. 104. Construction. • Clarifies that nothing in Title I limits the ability of a state to enact more restrictive gun-related laws or bans on certain gun parts of weapons kits. Build those title I's while you still can. |
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