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Posted: 11/6/2008 8:07:01 AM EDT
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I understand that the AR-15 is a single-shot semiautomatic rifle. I have decided that, in light of the election results, it is worth it (to me) to get a Class III permit and have the option to buy fully automatic weapons.
Does Armalite make a fully automatic (i.e., 3-round burst) version of the AR-15 that can be placed in single-shot mode similar to the M-16 I use in the military? Are there other rifles from other manufacturers that have this capability, if Armalite does not offer them? Coming from the M-16 world, not too familiar with all manufacturer's offerings on the civilian side at this point. Thank you for any help/pointing in the right direction. Ideal weapon would be an automatic AR-15 A4. Rock River Arms may also have something similar in the 7.62mm spec. Mike |
| The only automatic weapons you can legally obtain are those that were legally registered prior to May 20, 1986. No new full auto weapons manufactured after that date may be transferred to civilians. Expect to pay $14,000-$15,000 for a registered M16A1. Also there is no such thing as a class 3 permit. That is a license that allows one to be a dealer in National Firearms act weapons. As an individual you get the appropriate paperwork approved by BATF. and pay a $200 transfer tax. |
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I understand that the AR-15 is a single-shot semiautomatic rifle. I have decided that, in light of the election results, it is worth it (to me) to get a Class III permit and have the option to buy fully automatic weapons. Does Armalite make a fully automatic (i.e., 3-round burst) version of the AR-15 that can be placed in single-shot mode similar to the M-16 I use in the military? Are there other rifles from other manufacturers that have this capability, if Armalite does not offer them? Coming from the M-16 world, not too familiar with all manufacturer's offerings on the civilian side at this point. Thank you for any help/pointing in the right direction. Ideal weapon would be an automatic AR-15 A4. Rock River Arms may also have something similar in the 7.62mm spec. Mike Since the National Firearms Act of 1986, individual citizens cannot legally purchase any new automatic firearms, nor can they legally convert a semi-auto rifle to full-auto. Doing so means 10 years at Club Fed, and the ATF enforces this with an iron fist. If your home-state allows it, and you get a stamp from ATF, you can purchase a pre-1986 automatic weapon that has already been registered with ATF, but because supplies are limited, you're looking at $10,000-$15,000. At least. With the ObamaReich coming to power, maybe more. There are a couple of ways to do this...buy a registered lower, registered drop-in auto-sear, etc... Once you get a registered lower, you can put any upper you want on it and still retain FA fire as long as it has an FA Bolt Carrier. Check out the Armory -> M16 section for more info. |
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In order to purchase new NFA weapons like an M16 you would first need an FFL. Then you would have to pay the 500 dollar fee for an SOT to be able to deal in NFA weapons.
If you want to order an M16 you would need to have your SOT then you would need a DEMO letter from a Police Dept. to order one. |
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To answer part of your post, yes you can get a select fire (3 rd burst or full + semi) ar15/m16. There are a few ways to do it. As mentioned before, it is going to be expensive...about $9k on the cheap end and $12k-$13k for a colt RR, which is what I'd be looking at. The first step in the process is to find a weapon that you want to buy, and then talk to a dealer. Or you can go find your dealer first; he just might have one for sale. |
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I understand that the AR-15 is a single-shot semiautomatic rifle. I have decided that, in light of the election results, it is worth it (to me) to get a Class III permit and have the option to buy fully automatic weapons. Before you go any further you need to get better educated about NFA laws. The terminology you are using indicated you are not well informed about the current legal status of machine guns, as there is no such thing as a "Class III permit" to buy machine guns. All subject to state and local laws of course, and somewhat simplified: As an individual you can purchase registered transferable (pre-May 86) MGs. IF you get set up as a dealer in NFA firearms you can get sales samples for law enforcement sales with letters from interested agencies. You will have to meet all of ATF's requirements to be a dealer including being a bona fide commercial seller of firearms as they do not allow dealer licenses for the purpose of individual ownership or collecting. If you get set up as a manufacturer of NFA firearms you can make MGs for sale to LE or military sales. Lots of things to consider with this option. |
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you dont need a lisence or permit to buy machine guns, if you can buy a gun you can buy a machine gun, (assuming local state laws allow).
do some research on NFA. then start from there. In MA you do need a Machine Gun license before you can do any paperwork. There are a few states like MA that do require a special MG license or permit because its an additional state requirement. Not many but a few. Looks like this gentlemen is in SC and I dont think his state requires one. 
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