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Posted: 1/9/2008 3:19:01 PM EDT
| Anyone laminate your returned approved forms? Is it even legal? |
+1. I do plan on laminating some copies though, just to be sure that rain doesn't somehow give me a very, very bad day. |
+2. In addition, lamination makes it more difficult for a forensic exam to determine that it's an original document, if you ever need to prove that to BATFE. Laminating copies, however, is fine (and a good idea). |
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I keep my originals in a bank safe deposit box. I make full color copies (marked as copies) reduced to 4"x6", laminate these and keep them on the gun case with a luggage tag ring. I have never carried the originals with the gun, I have had my copies examined by range personnel several times and LEOs twice, and have never had a problem. |
+1, except I keep my 4x5 laminated color copy reductions under the foam liner inside the respective NFA weapon cases. Here in north central PA there are a lot of MG owners, and we don't usually get a second look. Folks are accumstomed to hearing FA fire at ranges, and most ranges are FA friendly. That said, I've had a couple "Dudley Doright" citizens attempt to enforce their interpretation of NFA 34, telling me I "need a license for a machine gun." I merely pull out the laminated 4x5 copy reduction and wave it at them, saying "Yup, got it right here!" That usually takes the starch out of them, because if they claim that an NFA owner "needs a license," then they sure as hell haven't seen one or know what one looks like -- even if such a thing existed. But a waving a laminated 4x5 copy of the Form 1 or 4 at them works for me -- I don't even let them look at it. Noah |
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All mine are laminated and I've never had an issue with it. Copies fine and more importantly you avoid the damage issue. Insofar as verification of legitimacy goes ANY competant forensic lab can easily determine if that document is fake or not. I'd add that any copies I carry are notarized. |
Dogrunner, I don't mean to bust your chops but I think we all need to understand that what one does and relates in a public forum is not always correct or the best idea. Wolfie, I see you are a paying member to this site which is very good. Several have posted here indicating they have taken the original, made full color copies and then put the original away in a secure location. They laminate the copies and carry them. I think that is a better way of handling the lamination question. I take it a step further and make several copies. I carry one in the toolbox on my truck, under the carpet of the Crown Vic., in the bottom of each range bag, in each hard case where I carry a NFA weapon and have one in each of my gun safes. Maybe I am just paranoid but I don't want to be out somewhere making noise or not making noise which ever I'm using and have someone (who has a legitimate reason to ask) ask and find out that particular day I forgot to pick up the right bag. Now I too haven't had any problems but at the end of the day, I do want to go home with all my toys. Dogrunner, I'm not saying you are right or wrong nor are you more right or more wrong. I just feel if we both should have similar problems, your problems will be harder to solve than mine. my .02 ETA: go |
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TRNK: No offense taken, I certainly respect anyone else's opinion, but opinions are just that absent any prohibition to the contrary. I laminated mine, have had ATF agents look at them and never a comment was made. As stated, the laminate was applied due to the paper deterioration issue....I have one piece that I've owned way, way, over 40 years, that guns form was yellowing and beginning to crack along the original folds when I had it processed......I can only imagine the state of some of the paper dating back to the '30's in some cases.....I chose to stop that. Further, and I can speak with some authority on the forensic ID issue, as I'm a retired CLEO and have seen similar issues. Be assured that verification is not going to be an issue simply due laminate on a form..certainly those documents present no more a problem than laminated DL's...which are still abundant in some jurisdictions..... |
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